Why is the percentage for Karlach's romance achievement so low?

[Nico]

She is such a beloved character by the community and I've seen tons of people romancing her yet only 3.6% of players have gotten that 'Hot Date' achievement. That feels so weird. Is it because her questline can be bugged?

[SlicerDicer]

Originally posted by Lani:

Those achievement percentages are WAGs (Wild Ass Guesses) because:
A) Mods disable achievements and it's x% of all players, not x% of not modding players
B) We know most people play modded games but not how many
C) Another unknown number of mod-users use a mod to still get achievements further muddying the water.
D) Heck there's even people asking for help circumventing the honour aspect of honour mode so they can get that achievement dishonourably.

So looking at achievement percentages is even more pointless than chasing them.

honour mode. what a silly name for masochist game mode

i find achievements a waste of time unless it comes with a game benefit (similar to borderlands games).

[votadc]

Originally posted by OnlyOffensive:

her personality is just boring on barbarian. Also barbarians supposed to be chaotic, which she does when intoducing herself with tyr guys and then the rest of the game he literally acting like some lawful good annoying paladin and if thats not bad enough she keeps saying some edgy words to make it look ? like shes on some kind of anime adventure

She Is just a paladin with anger issues. She always try to help people.
The chaotic neutral dumb barbarian Is more Aylin that Is always "waaagh me smash!" while Karlach speak as a scientist.

[DrZann]

Karlach is awesome. If I had to guess why more people are romancing the Emperor than Karlach....her romance doesn't have the happiest of endings

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by LunarisRuin:

Originally posted by DontMisunderstand:

Do people actually like Karlach, or is liking Karlach just a meme creating a social pressure for people to say things they don't mean?

People genuinely like her.

I don't. I think she's pretty terribly written. Like they gave the writers the outline sketch "cross a teenage girl with a hardened veteran non-com" and they decided to do it literally. In all the worst possible ways.

Every time I want to like Karlach, she starts with "Hey Soldier!" or "Hup hup! Let's go!" and I just say to myself, "Oh yeah, this is why I hate having Karlach in the party." She has a few good moments, but mostly she's like a caricature. Or almost a self-parody.

[Nox]

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

Originally posted by LunarisRuin:

People genuinely like her.

I don't. I think she's pretty terribly written. Like they gave the writers the outline sketch "cross a teenage girl with a hardened veteran non-com" and they decided to do it literally. In all the worst possible ways.

Every time I want to like Karlach, she starts with "Hey Soldier!" or "Hup hup! Let's go!" and I just say to myself, "Oh yeah, this is why I hate having Karlach in the party." She has a few good moments, but mostly she's like a caricature. Or almost a self-parody.

Well the cross a teenage girl with a hardened veteran non-com fits her tbh.

She did get screwed and traded off to war slavery in hells in her teen years. She never really got to enjoy adolescence or life as a young woman as it is. (I may be overthinking this lol)

So it does make sense (for me at least) that she's a bit hyperactive when she finally breaks free of Zariel's yoke (even for a moment) and gets to experience stuff she never thought she would ever see again.

[B Unit]

Probably because it is (or at least was) really easy to romance Shadowheart or Laezel before doing Karlach's quest that triggers the romance, and most people probably thought they could play the field until a later point but Karlach will friendzone you if you do. Hell you can gain enough affinity points with Shadowheart by just spamming long rests as soon as you get her on the beach to get her romance kiss scene.

[Mike Garrison]

Originally posted by BananaChumpus:

Originally posted by Mike Garrison:

I don't. I think she's pretty terribly written. Like they gave the writers the outline sketch "cross a teenage girl with a hardened veteran non-com" and they decided to do it literally. In all the worst possible ways.

Every time I want to like Karlach, she starts with "Hey Soldier!" or "Hup hup! Let's go!" and I just say to myself, "Oh yeah, this is why I hate having Karlach in the party." She has a few good moments, but mostly she's like a caricature. Or almost a self-parody.

Well the cross a teenage girl with a hardened veteran non-com fits her tbh.

She did get screwed and traded off to war slavery in hells in her teen years. She never really got to enjoy adolescence or life as a young woman as it is. (I may be overthinking this lol)

So it does make sense (for me at least) that she's a bit hyperactive when she finally breaks free of Zariel's yoke (even for a moment) and gets to experience stuff she never thought she would ever see again.

I know it makes sense. I'm fairly sure that's the character sketch that the writers were given. I'm just saying that they botched the implementation of it. If they had been more subtle, more nuanced, it would have been fine. As it is, it grates on me.

YMMV, and probably does.

[skivis]

Because game won't let me. I did everything to please her, brought infernal iron to dammon for making that infernal engine thing, tried to flirt with her by saying she's hot, but never got to properly romanticize her.

I remember after killing Gortash she was super upset and I tried to calm her down, and the next day she's like "We're best friends." Like I was DEEP in the friend zone.

[War Maiden]

Originally posted by ScapeGoat:

She is such a beloved character by the community and I've seen tons of people romancing her yet only 3.6% of players have gotten that 'Hot Date' achievement. That feels so weird. Is it because her questline can be bugged?

It is most likely because, and I say this from experience, that most men do not want a dominating woman whom exudes power.
Why? Reasons:

1) It makes Alpha Men feel inferior. Why?
Because, psychologically speaking:
The typical male has an unerring urge to 'protect' something they 'perceive' as weaker than them (Not that this is necessarily or actually true). If that particular quotient is not present, their natural protective instincts are waned and then summarily their instincts go three ways.

1) They rebel against said resistance.
Meaning rebel against said strong-willed woman in a battle for psychological dominance through various methods, most unethical to gain the 'upper-hand' because they still perceive them as 'weak'.


2) They submit to said resistance as being the more authoritative, and eventually it becomes a normalization.

No need to expand on this.


3) They find mutual ground in both authoritative parts doing exactly as both parties want exclusively, without restrictions or exceptions. Admittedly, the last one is the hardest for couples to achieve, as it is the best outcome but not always one either or both partners can achieve. Why? Because of various emotional reasons, but it typically comes down to people finally shedding off their need to dominate the other and finally work together as a cohesive unit. The harmony is Golden, but it is, as I said, rarely achieved due to natural instinct issues.

[TheAceOfSpodes]

A lot of reasons I've never had any interest in her.

I don't find her spiky scarred demon physique particularly attractive, nor the muscle girl thing.

Her writing is just... Weird. Way too much pop-culture ♥♥♥♥♥♥ millennial writing thrown in. But then she's also supposed to have spent a decade in the Hells fighting the entire time. Feels entirely disconnected and jarring.

She's doomed.

She's an incessant do-gooder.

Her quest just isn't great compared to like... Astarion or Lae'zel.

A shame that both melee tank origin characters are so obnoxious. So if you're staying true to the characters, Minthara is the only other option. But that involves being extra evil.

[Jade]

I love Astarion and Karlach romance they are so cute. Karlach's kiss animation with Astarion is so good. Nothing like a soft submissive pretty boy with the big strong women, I want her to carry him off into the sunset. MmmHM

[AKIHABARA]

Originally posted by Jade:

I love Astarion and Karlach romance they are so cute. Karlach's kiss animation with Astarion is so good. Nothing like a soft submissive pretty boy with the big strong women, I want her to carry him off into the sunset. MmmHM

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[LunarisRuin]

Originally posted by Jade:

I love Astarion and Karlach romance they are so cute. Karlach's kiss animation with Astarion is so good. Nothing like a soft submissive pretty boy with the big strong women, I want her to carry him off into the sunset. MmmHM

[AShigeru]

Gotcha get them all!

[Jarek Defiler]

I like Karlach and romanced her on my 4th playthrough. Lae'zel will always be my number 1 though. Karlach is the most sympathetic I think. She feels the most...human, for lack of a better word. And I don't mind the big athletic look.

For me, her biggest turnoff is that her personality isn't the most attractive. She's kinda ditsy at times and a bit "frat boyish," if that makes sense? Oddly enough, I found her most attractive when she was lamenting about her plight. When she goes happy-go-lucky I kinda get turned off.

But as others have said, many probably don't have as strong a bond with her because you recruit her so late into the first act. By that time you probably already have a pretty healthy roster. That's how it was for me anyways. I had to build an entire playthrough around getting and romancing her. And it was a blast. I made her an unarmed strength beefcake tossing people around like hotcakes lol.

Now if only we could romance Jaheira...