BG3: Worst Writing of the Year

[Jen Blue(She/They/Hers)]

Today writers are selected by diversity/pc checkmarks rather than skill. In fact their modern day ideology and agendas are almost exclusively leading the narrative. Same for BG3.

Most of BG3 writing and romances leave the impression they were written by people with little romantic experience, still having adolescent views in this regard. Everyone wants to have sex with you after 2 lines of pointless conversation. Writing on porn-quality level basically, GJ Larian.

Furthermore the writting shows little social experience other than their Californian-style university/Twitter echo chambers that taught them they have to force their own real-life problems, insecurities, sex fetishes, and ideology others throat down no matter what they writing or if it is fitting.

The way how BG3 presents its characters, interaction, and world is superfiscial at best. "Millennial writing", result of year long social media exposure like Twitter with overdose of worthless no one cares and I support the next thing posting, instead of reading quality books or engage in real actions and experience. Paired with worse writing and reading skills. Your characters and story can´t be smarter than the writer.

Get a bunch of this ideologic clone and npc writers of this type together and you end up with a disconnected story as it is the case in Baldur´s Gate 3. People are literally recommending to swap acts because it would fit better the game´s pacing... Like a episodic TV series were nobody cares much about the grand story arc.

[Cartesian Duelist]

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

a cycle that feeds itself.
But that's ignoring the fact there are countless people actually taking it serious

Welcome to the Internet. And again, nobody is taking it seriously.

[Anima Mundi]

Originally posted by Cartesian Duelist:

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

a cycle that feeds itself.
But that's ignoring the fact there are countless people actually taking it serious

Welcome to the Internet. And again, nobody is taking it seriously.

Glad you're able to be the speaker and interpreter for all the comments i've read in this and other threads

[LordOfTheBread]

Another one of these threads by someone not owning the game, whoohoo!

[Blurp]

dont even have the game, go away troll

[LordOfTheBread]

Originally posted by Blurp:

dont even have the game, go away troll

Sadly it is a wa7oo easy way toi farm points. Make a post using cgat.gpt trashing the game, wait for rewards.

[nullpo]

Originally posted by The Frisian Algerian:

I, for one, think the diversity is not good enough. I would like to see more ethnicities represented (Mexican, Arab, Indian, Chinese, etc). I'd also like more sex options (threesome?).

I feel Larian were playing it way too safe.

That being said, I think the story is great, with a lot of branches and possible twists.

I feel like the OP is part of that crowd that cannot deal with a changing world. One day your (and my) generation is gone, and no one cares anymore about the so-called "PC" complaints. Because the new generations will not grow up in a world where every character was white and heterosexual.

Mate, as Chineese Indonesian I never felt the need to be represented. We sure as hell don't need westerners patronizing us with "representation". Just make good games. If that games have Indonesians/Chineese, great, plus points. But like they don't need to fill a checkmark of people to represent. Just make good game and good stories. And fortunately larian still do that.

[easytarget]

Originally posted by Emma (she/they) -3DG-:

Your characters and story can´t be smarter than the writer.

At a surface level I'm sure you thought this was a deep observation. But dip just below the pond level depth and you realize this statement is true of books, movies, games, everything that involves writing as a part of the art form.

Or at least until ChatGPT or its equivalent replaces writers. At which point all forums like this one will also just have AI's commenting back at the AI's doing the creating.

The loop will be closed and it'll be time to settle in for a pint or two to watch warring AIs.

[omegazeda]

Alan Wake 2 for best narrative, i thought baldur's gate 3 narrative was better

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by easytarget:

At a surface level I'm sure you thought this was a deep observation. But dip just below the pond level depth and you realize this statement is true of books, movies, games, everything that involves writing as a part of the art form.

Or at least until ChatGPT or its equivalent replaces writers. At which point all forums like this one will also just have AI's commenting back at the AI's doing the creating.

The loop will be closed and it'll be time to settle in for a pint or two to watch warring AIs.

What you gonna buy the pint with? Everyone who isn't a millionaire+ today will be looking *rough* if that's where the future is heading.

[Babbles]

Originally posted by nullpo:

Originally posted by The Frisian Algerian:

I, for one, think the diversity is not good enough. I would like to see more ethnicities represented (Mexican, Arab, Indian, Chinese, etc). I'd also like more sex options (threesome?).

I feel Larian were playing it way too safe.

That being said, I think the story is great, with a lot of branches and possible twists.

I feel like the OP is part of that crowd that cannot deal with a changing world. One day your (and my) generation is gone, and no one cares anymore about the so-called "PC" complaints. Because the new generations will not grow up in a world where every character was white and heterosexual.

Mate, as Chineese Indonesian I never felt the need to be represented. We sure as hell don't need westerners patronizing us with "representation". Just make good games. If that games have Indonesians/Chineese, great, plus points. But like they don't need to fill a checkmark of people to represent. Just make good game and good stories. And fortunately larian still do that.

I live in NZ and one of my flatmates is Indo-Chinese, she represents herself quite fine on her own, believe me :)

[nullpo]

Originally posted by Babbles:

Originally posted by nullpo:

Mate, as Chineese Indonesian I never felt the need to be represented. We sure as hell don't need westerners patronizing us with "representation". Just make good games. If that games have Indonesians/Chineese, great, plus points. But like they don't need to fill a checkmark of people to represent. Just make good game and good stories. And fortunately larian still do that.

I live in NZ and one of my flatmates is Indo-Chinese, she represents herself quite fine on her own, believe me :)

as she should be.

[WOKEGOD]

This board used to be quiet & contain average clown farmers and anti-woke activitists. Now its just myriad of ants posting bullcraps every days. That's what being GOTY to you.

[Recjawjind]

Originally posted by Emma -3DG-:

Originally posted by WOKEGOD:

This board used to be quiet & contain average clown farmers and anti-woke activitists. Now its just myriad of ants posting bullcraps every days. That's what being GOTY to you.

That is not true

Did the attention and clown points you so deeply crave run out so you had to necro?

[Morkonan]

Originally posted by Emma -3DG-:

...Everyone wants to have sex with you after 2 lines of pointless conversation. ..

I don't disagree with your general comments, but:

They have a limited amount of time to build those sorts of connections necessary to support some kind of quasi-emotional RPG element that supports... sex.

I don't care about what others do with their jiggly bits and, as far as criticizing Larian for their inclusion of these mechanics, that's another topic.

But, you started in on "the writers" and I have to defend them a little bit, here - While I personally think some dialogue could have been written a bit better, I have to point out that they have a limited amount of game resources to work with. THAT is why it may take less dialogue that realistically feasible "IRL." (It's also why a lot of writing may truly suck in a lot of games - Players do not want to listen to exposition and developers often don't craft enough custom scenes and encounters to play out critical plot elements.

I imagine they work from Relationship/Approval mechanics to trigger certain bits and budget the number of player-clicks and interactions vs the pay-off. That means someone may have told them "You only have five or six clicks to get the player from the "ready to romance" to "sex," so make it work."

[ZeJoJo]

I disagree