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Wabbajack 9 DIC 2023 a las 0:05
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Not to be rude or anything but... double standard?
Recently I saw a mod on nexus where a dude named Yedlike uploaded a mod named "Ser Aylin" where it turns Aylin from a woman to a man, and from what I can summarize from the mod's comments, some like it and "some" got very angry about it. Not even few days later his mod got removed and he got banned from nexus. My question is, why is his mod got a lot of heat while there are other similar mods, such as mods turning Astarion and Gale to a woman yet their responses is not as bad as the Aylin mod.
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Mister Sinister 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:42 
Publicado originalmente por lankaras:
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:

this exact reason

this goes over a lot of people's heads as to why most of us are not comfortable with the idea of the mod itself, especially when you factor in that we've watched people lose their ♥♥♥♥ over the fact there's same sex relationships in this game.

Ah ok so you are not comfortable with an idea. If that is valid than I never want to hear you people say "Why do you even care so much" ever again.

that didnt make sense to me at all but, ok!
The_Dipl0mat 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:43 
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:

I'm gonna be honest, you might wanna pump up the social life or gameplay on something else. I know things get heated here, but thats leaning into levels of obsession to want to talk about "Its a matter of principle, I wont be censored in the forum for a game!" and proceed to then do the same thing over and over with each alt. Once they all get a month long ban, then what? Is it on to more alts? More obsession with it? I mean, respect for principle. My payraise got delayed for 4 months once at work so now whenever I cut cheese for a customer I always underweigh it to save a good 10-20 cents. But that could be valuable energy for something else

'Course, that is ironic because I'm here near constantly. But I do at least take part in more silly discussions



I feel its effective as it typically targets individuals who stir the most problems in the community. I'll admit it, sometimes I'm one of them when I've antagonized people. Lazy? Yes. But from a neutral perspective it makes some sense and realistically theres no way to make it actually fair. If this was a discord server or something, maybe. But the sheer scale of steam, with a discussion forum for every game? Thats hard as hell to moderate with just us fleshies

Said before, I never post after 7pm specifically because I have an active social life. I'm also usually playing a game while on the forums, I just alt tab, and cycle between here, Facebook and the game.

It comes down to pride, it's that simple. I'm not going to have some furry stalking dorks think they beat me into submission and "won" by getting me banned. Is it petty? Sure. But I never claimed not to be. In fact I've pointed out the opposite, I'm excessively competitive.

As for "stirring the most problems", no, it takes two to tango. This is simple political bias and nothing else. And I think you know it, you just happen to be on the majority side so it's convenient to ignore it. The users who spend all their time reporting me are always locked into arguments with others, I actually occasionally have proper conversations on here, they never do. Everything is a fight to them.

Steam should just have a fully automated system like Facebook. At least then it'd be consistent. Remove the human factor and remove the report function. It's not like Steam can't afford an algorithm, I don't know how it works out cheaper for them to hire people.

Right, you have an active one at night. So its what you do otherwise? I'd recommend a hobby or somethin to stimulate the mind a bit more. Which reminds me, I need to pick up more flayed ones flesh...

Sure, but you do realize the "furry dorks" enjoy seeing your reactions? At first it was unique, but not so much now. No matter what you do, you're losing to "furry dorks". Which, mind you. Is a weird thing to want to win against. Especially in a single forum. At this point its just become a waiting game to see when you get banned again. So heres my question, when all your accounts manage to get a month long ban around the same time period. What then? Will you make more alts? How many alts will you make/keep up "just to prove a point"
Why is this point a hill to die on? I know I'm the queen of excessive, I own like 3 trench coats and an amateur imperial guard cosplay based off my own imperial guard army. But thats just, excessive

I should have been more clear, both sides stir the pot. Its cringe to see the WOKE HAS WON AND IS THE ONLY REASON GAME WON GOTY threads, just as cringe as it is to see the daily WOKE BAD topic. And you claim everything is a fight to them, when you participate in said fights. Even here, you seem to be trying to have a fight of some sort. I know I've gotten banned, and I'm one of "the losers always in fights" yet I too, participate in silly threads and convos. Hell, I've made a few (Damn wizards ruining the farmers economy. Damn MGO's!!!)

Eh, no argument there. Scan for keywords, ban. Call it good
Mister Sinister 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:43 
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:

not sure you're aware but most muslims don't like gay people.

While this is true for strict and fundamentalist Muslims, BM, I'm fairly positive she isn't either of those, given the fact she mentions her sexual attractions and uses the kind of lingo you'd expect from somebody in a "fanfic" community.

why're you using league of legends terminology on me?
👾 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:43 
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:
Publicado originalmente por lankaras:

Ah ok so you are not comfortable with an idea. If that is valid than I never want to hear you people say "Why do you even care so much" ever again.

that didnt make sense to me at all but, ok!

Because that is what they say when people complain about woke content for example. "Why do you care so much, it doesn't affect you, you can just not play the game". Same goes here.
Mister Sinister 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:47 
Publicado originalmente por lankaras:
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:

that didnt make sense to me at all but, ok!

Because that is what they say when people complain about woke content for example. "Why do you care so much, it doesn't affect you, you can just not play the game". Same goes here.

i mean, i dont really care i just see the exact reason why a lot of people aren't willing to open up to such mods in light of the actual maniacs that have rather.... interesting views on the existence of gay people.
ivandrago654 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:50 
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:

Said before, I never post after 7pm specifically because I have an active social life. I'm also usually playing a game while on the forums, I just alt tab, and cycle between here, Facebook and the game.

It comes down to pride, it's that simple. I'm not going to have some furry stalking dorks think they beat me into submission and "won" by getting me banned. Is it petty? Sure. But I never claimed not to be. In fact I've pointed out the opposite, I'm excessively competitive.

As for "stirring the most problems", no, it takes two to tango. This is simple political bias and nothing else. And I think you know it, you just happen to be on the majority side so it's convenient to ignore it. The users who spend all their time reporting me are always locked into arguments with others, I actually occasionally have proper conversations on here, they never do. Everything is a fight to them.

Steam should just have a fully automated system like Facebook. At least then it'd be consistent. Remove the human factor and remove the report function. It's not like Steam can't afford an algorithm, I don't know how it works out cheaper for them to hire people.

Right, you have an active one at night. So its what you do otherwise? I'd recommend a hobby or somethin to stimulate the mind a bit more. Which reminds me, I need to pick up more flayed ones flesh...

Sure, but you do realize the "furry dorks" enjoy seeing your reactions? At first it was unique, but not so much now. No matter what you do, you're losing to "furry dorks". Which, mind you. Is a weird thing to want to win against. Especially in a single forum. At this point its just become a waiting game to see when you get banned again. So heres my question, when all your accounts manage to get a month long ban around the same time period. What then? Will you make more alts? How many alts will you make/keep up "just to prove a point"
Why is this point a hill to die on? I know I'm the queen of excessive, I own like 3 trench coats and an amateur imperial guard cosplay based off my own imperial guard army. But thats just, excessive

I should have been more clear, both sides stir the pot. Its cringe to see the WOKE HAS WON AND IS THE ONLY REASON GAME WON GOTY threads, just as cringe as it is to see the daily WOKE BAD topic. And you claim everything is a fight to them, when you participate in said fights. Even here, you seem to be trying to have a fight of some sort. I know I've gotten banned, and I'm one of "the losers always in fights" yet I too, participate in silly threads and convos. Hell, I've made a few (Damn wizards ruining the farmers economy. Damn MGO's!!!)

Eh, no argument there. Scan for keywords, ban. Call it good

Why would I have an active one during the day? Said before, I'm a musician, I have very little to do during the mornings. Everybody else I know works day jobs.

As for losing, nah, they don't enjoy it at all. I can see it with their change in tone as they gradually get more and more frustrated. I can see it when they desperately go from just twisting words to risking being caught in outright lies because their chances of winning are slipping away. I can tell the difference between the trolls who enjoy it (like zero), and the ones who don't (like BM). I don't engage with the ones who do.

What it boils down to, is I posted bug reports on Gale back at launch and got absolutely trounced for them as "homophobe". Then I posted a thread after I was vindicated that got hundreds of awards and really made these lunatics despise me. They got me successfully banned for a month, and I'm not the turn-the-other-cheek type. Be as reductive as you like, make as many passive-aggressive digs as you like, I'm completely happy with my choices no matter how much people project their self-loathing about forum time on to me. Because I have a life outside of the forum it's like water off a duck's back when you tell me I spend too long here.
ivandrago654 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:50 
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:

While this is true for strict and fundamentalist Muslims, BM, I'm fairly positive she isn't either of those, given the fact she mentions her sexual attractions and uses the kind of lingo you'd expect from somebody in a "fanfic" community.

why're you using league of legends terminology on me?

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean.
Mister Sinister 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:51 
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:

why're you using league of legends terminology on me?

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean.

BM means Bad Manners.
👾 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:53 
Publicado originalmente por Mister Sinister:
Publicado originalmente por lankaras:

Because that is what they say when people complain about woke content for example. "Why do you care so much, it doesn't affect you, you can just not play the game". Same goes here.

i mean, i dont really care i just see the exact reason why a lot of people aren't willing to open up to such mods in light of the actual maniacs that have rather.... interesting views on the existence of gay people.

Well, for some, the whole idea of being gay is itself "rather interesting". Let alone something like transgender.
FRISH 10 DIC 2023 a las 1:57 
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:

Say something "anti-woke" and watch how fast that all changes. Not racist, or homophobic, just anti-woke, like Bill Maher. That automatically puts you on the "other side" of the partisan politics binary, and given 90% of this forum are left-to-far-left, welcome to report oblivion.

I would have to understand what "woke" really is to say something "anti woke" lol

I however in the past under certain topics discussed how I don't always agree with certain aspect being pushed in certain areas, I don't always agree with what some might call "agendas" or "politics"
I however don't view "lgbt" or other topics inherently political just because politicians make them so, I don't personally believe our personal lives and choices are political ever, even if politicians use it as such.
While I don't always agree fully with certain movements or the steps they take, I also clarify for example I don't fully understand the "lgbt+" stuff its not my scene, but I do understand people are people, and I support their basic rights loke I or any person should have.

This is how I avoid catching bans, I don't stop at parts that might seem unclear without further explanation so it's clear what my view is and isn't trying or attempting to be hateful or illicit reactions, just partaking in the conversation at hand. I don't actively ever seek to hurt someone's feelings or upset them, I don't wanna cause someone pain or turmoil after they leave a conversation with me even if we disagree on a fundamental level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0KTFdnBk8
Pretty good example.

It's all a massive psy op. People advocating for rights based on stuff that isn't even contested. In the example above there's realistically no-one actually claiming that black people can't marry white people. Woke people claim that their own counties are overrun with people that barely even exist. They take more offence to jokes than genuine threats and actively try to bring others down and set people against one another.

Woke doesn't care about you. It pretends to. It's all about vanity. Sadly a lot of society is centred around appearances.
The_Dipl0mat 10 DIC 2023 a las 2:01 
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:

Right, you have an active one at night. So its what you do otherwise? I'd recommend a hobby or somethin to stimulate the mind a bit more. Which reminds me, I need to pick up more flayed ones flesh...

Sure, but you do realize the "furry dorks" enjoy seeing your reactions? At first it was unique, but not so much now. No matter what you do, you're losing to "furry dorks". Which, mind you. Is a weird thing to want to win against. Especially in a single forum. At this point its just become a waiting game to see when you get banned again. So heres my question, when all your accounts manage to get a month long ban around the same time period. What then? Will you make more alts? How many alts will you make/keep up "just to prove a point"
Why is this point a hill to die on? I know I'm the queen of excessive, I own like 3 trench coats and an amateur imperial guard cosplay based off my own imperial guard army. But thats just, excessive

I should have been more clear, both sides stir the pot. Its cringe to see the WOKE HAS WON AND IS THE ONLY REASON GAME WON GOTY threads, just as cringe as it is to see the daily WOKE BAD topic. And you claim everything is a fight to them, when you participate in said fights. Even here, you seem to be trying to have a fight of some sort. I know I've gotten banned, and I'm one of "the losers always in fights" yet I too, participate in silly threads and convos. Hell, I've made a few (Damn wizards ruining the farmers economy. Damn MGO's!!!)

Eh, no argument there. Scan for keywords, ban. Call it good

Why would I have an active one during the day? Said before, I'm a musician, I have very little to do during the mornings. Everybody else I know works day jobs.

As for losing, nah, they don't enjoy it at all. I can see it with their change in tone as they gradually get more and more frustrated. I can see it when they desperately go from just twisting words to risking being caught in outright lies because their chances of winning are slipping away. I can tell the difference between the trolls who enjoy it (like zero), and the ones who don't (like BM). I don't engage with the ones who do.

What it boils down to, is I posted bug reports on Gale back at launch and got absolutely trounced for them as "homophobe". Then I posted a thread after I was vindicated that got hundreds of awards and really made these lunatics despise me. They got me successfully banned for a month, and I'm not the turn-the-other-cheek type. Be as reductive as you like, make as many passive-aggressive digs as you like, I'm completely happy with my choices no matter how much people project their self-loathing about forum time on to me. Because I have a life outside of the forum it's like water off a duck's back when you tell me I spend too long here.

Doesn't have to be anything major. Just sitting back, read a nice book. Poetry or some ♥♥♥♥. It sounds like BG3 forums eat up quite a bit of your time, especially with this "I must win and show them all!" mindset that lead to you creating multiple alts, spending at least $5 on each if I'm not mistaken? Or your nations currency equivalent. I assume you also have plans to make more, should you lose access to your bans?

Oh, well I know I do. Sometimes I engage in discussion or conversation. But other times its fun just watching you and waiting for the next ban. Tbh, I actually wasn't expecting the Ivan account to come back for a while longer. And I was surprised to see barrybarrington. Its weird seeing you with a profile photo that isnt just the generic steam ?

Right, but you seem to spend quite a bit of time here just to go in and further muddle the pot out of some sense of "proving them wrong" which is still just, such a weird concept to me. You get banned, come back with an alt, banned, come back with another, rinse and repeat. Whats even the point beyond that? (And still, I'm curious on the logistics. How quickly does it take to switch between alts? I don't think its like instagram where you can just easily swap between em)

Its, confusing to say the least. Might just be because I dont have as severe of a "tit for tat" need over online forums. Now games? Absolutely lol
The_Dipl0mat 10 DIC 2023 a las 2:08 
Publicado originalmente por FRISH:
Publicado originalmente por KingOfFriedChicken:

I would have to understand what "woke" really is to say something "anti woke" lol

I however in the past under certain topics discussed how I don't always agree with certain aspect being pushed in certain areas, I don't always agree with what some might call "agendas" or "politics"
I however don't view "lgbt" or other topics inherently political just because politicians make them so, I don't personally believe our personal lives and choices are political ever, even if politicians use it as such.
While I don't always agree fully with certain movements or the steps they take, I also clarify for example I don't fully understand the "lgbt+" stuff its not my scene, but I do understand people are people, and I support their basic rights loke I or any person should have.

This is how I avoid catching bans, I don't stop at parts that might seem unclear without further explanation so it's clear what my view is and isn't trying or attempting to be hateful or illicit reactions, just partaking in the conversation at hand. I don't actively ever seek to hurt someone's feelings or upset them, I don't wanna cause someone pain or turmoil after they leave a conversation with me even if we disagree on a fundamental level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0KTFdnBk8
Pretty good example.

It's all a massive psy op. People advocating for rights based on stuff that isn't even contested. In the example above there's realistically no-one actually claiming that black people can't marry white people. Woke people claim that their own counties are overrun with people that barely even exist. They take more offence to jokes than genuine threats and actively try to bring others down and set people against one another.

Woke doesn't care about you. It pretends to. It's all about vanity. Sadly a lot of society is centred around appearances.

Don't they literally comment in that video "This is so cheesy", as if to point out the absurdity of the claim? That situation still happens, just less forward facing. Racism has indeed gotten shamed, so people dont outright say it (to their faces at least)
Its not unheard of for families to talk to their children and try pushing them towards marrying/getting with someone better. We all know nobody is going to say that line anymore (thats some 1920s type ♥♥♥♥) unless they're severely deranged. Which, most people aren't
ivandrago654 10 DIC 2023 a las 2:18 
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:

Why would I have an active one during the day? Said before, I'm a musician, I have very little to do during the mornings. Everybody else I know works day jobs.

As for losing, nah, they don't enjoy it at all. I can see it with their change in tone as they gradually get more and more frustrated. I can see it when they desperately go from just twisting words to risking being caught in outright lies because their chances of winning are slipping away. I can tell the difference between the trolls who enjoy it (like zero), and the ones who don't (like BM). I don't engage with the ones who do.

What it boils down to, is I posted bug reports on Gale back at launch and got absolutely trounced for them as "homophobe". Then I posted a thread after I was vindicated that got hundreds of awards and really made these lunatics despise me. They got me successfully banned for a month, and I'm not the turn-the-other-cheek type. Be as reductive as you like, make as many passive-aggressive digs as you like, I'm completely happy with my choices no matter how much people project their self-loathing about forum time on to me. Because I have a life outside of the forum it's like water off a duck's back when you tell me I spend too long here.

Doesn't have to be anything major. Just sitting back, read a nice book. Poetry or some ♥♥♥♥. It sounds like BG3 forums eat up quite a bit of your time, especially with this "I must win and show them all!" mindset that lead to you creating multiple alts, spending at least $5 on each if I'm not mistaken? Or your nations currency equivalent. I assume you also have plans to make more, should you lose access to your bans?

Oh, well I know I do. Sometimes I engage in discussion or conversation. But other times its fun just watching you and waiting for the next ban. Tbh, I actually wasn't expecting the Ivan account to come back for a while longer. And I was surprised to see barrybarrington. Its weird seeing you with a profile photo that isnt just the generic steam ?

Right, but you seem to spend quite a bit of time here just to go in and further muddle the pot out of some sense of "proving them wrong" which is still just, such a weird concept to me. You get banned, come back with an alt, banned, come back with another, rinse and repeat. Whats even the point beyond that? (And still, I'm curious on the logistics. How quickly does it take to switch between alts? I don't think its like instagram where you can just easily swap between em)

Its, confusing to say the least. Might just be because I dont have as severe of a "tit for tat" need over online forums. Now games? Absolutely lol

I read, I noodle on stringed instruments or play a little drums, I play games (Rogue Trader at the moment), I go to the gym...I have plenty of hobbies, and like I said, I'm usually mucking around on Facebook and playing a game at the same time as being on the forum. Daytimes are boring as a musician, most gigs don't happen during the day with the exception of festivals and weddings.

And I've told you how it'll end. Eventually, I will get bored of the forum and leave, but crucially, it'll be on my own terms, not because I was censored.

As for waiting for my next ban, the sweetest moments are when somebody goes down with me, even though I didn't report them. It's hilarious to watch somebody's abuse of a snowflake system backfire on them.
FRISH 10 DIC 2023 a las 2:24 
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:
Publicado originalmente por FRISH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA0KTFdnBk8
Pretty good example.

It's all a massive psy op. People advocating for rights based on stuff that isn't even contested. In the example above there's realistically no-one actually claiming that black people can't marry white people. Woke people claim that their own counties are overrun with people that barely even exist. They take more offence to jokes than genuine threats and actively try to bring others down and set people against one another.

Woke doesn't care about you. It pretends to. It's all about vanity. Sadly a lot of society is centred around appearances.

Don't they literally comment in that video "This is so cheesy", as if to point out the absurdity of the claim? That situation still happens, just less forward facing. Racism has indeed gotten shamed, so people dont outright say it (to their faces at least)
Its not unheard of for families to talk to their children and try pushing them towards marrying/getting with someone better. We all know nobody is going to say that line anymore (thats some 1920s type ♥♥♥♥) unless they're severely deranged. Which, most people aren't
It mocks the idea of dismissing it as cheesy. And of course families push their children towards marrying someone better, especially towards daughters. Parents should always look out for the best interests of their child who is more likely to have a more naive outlook but ultimately let their kids makes their own choices. That's not racially exclusive. However let's be honest, no-one in their right mind would act like mixed marriage is illegal, at least not in the west, and they absolutely would not imply that it is more controversial than gay marriage.

Wokeness as a whole is a cheesy concept, it's just that sadly a lot of people have seemed to gotten used to it and let the brain rot alter the way that the world actually operates.
The_Dipl0mat 10 DIC 2023 a las 2:26 
Publicado originalmente por ivandrago654:
Publicado originalmente por The_Dipl0mat:

Doesn't have to be anything major. Just sitting back, read a nice book. Poetry or some ♥♥♥♥. It sounds like BG3 forums eat up quite a bit of your time, especially with this "I must win and show them all!" mindset that lead to you creating multiple alts, spending at least $5 on each if I'm not mistaken? Or your nations currency equivalent. I assume you also have plans to make more, should you lose access to your bans?

Oh, well I know I do. Sometimes I engage in discussion or conversation. But other times its fun just watching you and waiting for the next ban. Tbh, I actually wasn't expecting the Ivan account to come back for a while longer. And I was surprised to see barrybarrington. Its weird seeing you with a profile photo that isnt just the generic steam ?

Right, but you seem to spend quite a bit of time here just to go in and further muddle the pot out of some sense of "proving them wrong" which is still just, such a weird concept to me. You get banned, come back with an alt, banned, come back with another, rinse and repeat. Whats even the point beyond that? (And still, I'm curious on the logistics. How quickly does it take to switch between alts? I don't think its like instagram where you can just easily swap between em)

Its, confusing to say the least. Might just be because I dont have as severe of a "tit for tat" need over online forums. Now games? Absolutely lol

I read, I noodle on stringed instruments or play a little drums, I play games (Rogue Trader at the moment), I go to the gym...I have plenty of hobbies, and like I said, I'm usually mucking around on Facebook and playing a game at the same time as being on the forum. Daytimes are boring as a musician, most gigs don't happen during the day with the exception of festivals and weddings.

And I've told you how it'll end. Eventually, I will get bored of the forum and leave, but crucially, it'll be on my own terms, not because I was censored.

As for waiting for my next ban, the sweetest moments are when somebody goes down with me, even though I didn't report them. It's hilarious to watch somebody's abuse of a snowflake system backfire on them.

Could always do school events (that's a joke, I'd hate to do a school event and even have a chance of dealing with a snobby angry parent)

Ah, so about. 2-5 months then? Game seems unlikely to die down in forums, and I'm expecting a huge wave of "this games better than I thought" and a ♥♥♥♥ load of "woke trash lmaoo!!!11" from kids who got their steam gift cards and got excited

Honestly, I think everyone has some satisfaction with a situation like that. Personally, I find it funny to get banned alongside them, then near instantly get unbanned
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