Who played Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader? Is it better than BG 3?

[777]

I played for 8 hours and I really like the game. Who has already played enough Warhammer, I want to ask, is it better than BG 3? Because the plot in BG 3 is average and the characters practically don’t talk and give very little information.

And there is no need to write about 3D cutscenes and graphics here, please.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Here's my answer from a different thread:

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

I'm only a couple of hours in, and I'm quite resistant/oblivious to bugs, so standard disclaimer...;P
Restarted the third time, because I never can decide what I wanna play ;P
So far I actually feel like I might prefer combat in RT over BG3.
The first boss fight on normal I actually wiped first try, because bombrushing was a bad idea...xD
The rest of the combat was relatively easy so far, though.
I only got to level 5 or 6, but levelling wise so far it was rather light on the amount of choices overall, though I got a feeling from a short look that might open up soon-ish.
I had no earlier contact with the Warhammer universe...I was actually rather surprised, the universe dragged me right in. Storywise...it seemed rather standard so far, which isn't neccessarily a bad thing for me, but nothing negative either.
Even though this might sound rather careful, overall from my first impression I would recommend, if you like TB combat.
But comparing to BG3...I find it very different...both are to far apart in budget, and had focus on different aspects, so while they both are tb crpgs, I don't think they are really that comparable. Both good games and luckily I don't have to decide between them...I can enjoy both ;)

[777]

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

Here's my answer from a different thread:

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

I'm only a couple of hours in, and I'm quite resistant/oblivious to bugs, so standard disclaimer...;P
Restarted the third time, because I never can decide what I wanna play ;P
So far I actually feel like I might prefer combat in RT over BG3.
The first boss fight on normal I actually wiped first try, because bombrushing was a bad idea...xD
The rest of the combat was relatively easy so far, though.
I only got to level 5 or 6, but levelling wise so far it was rather light on the amount of choices overall, though I got a feeling from a short look that might open up soon-ish.
I had no earlier contact with the Warhammer universe...I was actually rather surprised, the universe dragged me right in. Storywise...it seemed rather standard so far, which isn't neccessarily a bad thing for me, but nothing negative either.
Even though this might sound rather careful, overall from my first impression I would recommend, if you like TB combat.
But comparing to BG3...I find it very different...both are to far apart in budget, and had focus on different aspects, so while they both are tb crpgs, I don't think they are really that comparable. Both good games and luckily I don't have to decide between them...I can enjoy both ;)

I didn't understand from the answer where the story is better and where the partners are better.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by 777:

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

Here's my answer from a different thread:

I didn't understand from the answer where the story is better and where the partners are better.

You are assuming an answer I never gave...
To even make that judgement I'd have to complete the game first.
It also has an undertone of disliking the BG3 companions, which isn't the case for me...quite the contrary, I do quite like the BG3 companions...

[777]

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

Originally posted by 777:

I didn't understand from the answer where the story is better and where the partners are better.

You are assuming an answer I never gave...
To even make that judgement I'd have to complete the game first.
It also has an undertone of disliking the BG3 companions, which isn't the case for me...quite the contrary, I do quite like the BG3 companions...

So you didn't read beyond the title then. I'll wait for another response.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Leavin a message to follow the thread

I'm very interested in RT, and also want to know if its in a similar vein to BG3 or if I should hold off. I've heard Owlcat also has launch issues as well

[Nekonoaijin]

Own both, I am looking forward to RT. I think it is the better game, assuming the finished product meets or exceeds my experiences with the unfinished one.

BG3 is very good, but if you are not enjoying it as much because of story, I think you'll probably like RT more. There is a lot of combat in RT, however (it *is* WH40K after all).

[DragonSoundxSG]

I've played RT for a few hours and really enjoy it. It has the W40k universe down. I think it's a different gaming experience - combat vs BG3's cinema. I will say there are not a lot of bugs, except for items disappearing in inventory. The combat itself is better IMHO it feels more balanced and fluid. BG3 had so many random gotcha moments. Overall I'd say get it if you want to focus more on combat and building your crew. I made a mercenary and I don't think it cost me anything.

Oh and the character development is much better than Pathfinder. The abilities and skills are well explained and *shocker* Owlcat took advice on lessening the quantity of stuff for quality.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by DragonSoundxSG:

I've played a few hours of RT and really enjoy it. It has the W40k universe down. I think it's a different gaming experience - combat vs BG3's cinema. I will say there are not a lot of bugs, except for items disappearing in inventory. The combat itself is better IMHO it feels more balanced and fluid. BG3 had so many random gotcha moments. Overall I'd say get it if you want to focus more on combat and building your crew. I made a mercenary and I don't think it cost me anything.

Oh hell yeah, I'll probably pick it up after the holidays and I get my phat paycheck

[zero]

have both, have yet to play a lot of rogue yet, but from my experince:

its what you expect for owlcat, solid game, follows the rules pretty strictly, lots of dialogue and exposition, partially voice acted, interesting characters and premise, includes the overarching mechanic (ship management).

overall, basically what i was expecting, but warhammer is not a D&D game, so if thats your motive, keep that in mind.

[Quillithe]

My two concerns with rogue trader are the Owlcat trends to include way too much combat meshing badly with the turn based design and the Owlcat tendency to include an annoying random mechanic (kingdom management, crusade management).


Overall it's on my list but I still need to play more BG3 and at least one lmg or minigun Underrail run first

[zero]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

My two concerns with rogue trader are the Owlcat trends to include way too much combat meshing badly with the turn based design and the Owlcat tendency to include an annoying random mechanic (kingdom management, crusade management).


Overall it's on my list but I still need to play more BG3 and at least one lmg or minigun Underrail run first

combat heavy is the best, part personally and do expect it in rogue as well, and as for the strange mechanic, that has been part of the adventure paths, it wasn't really random in either case.

but short of it is that your concerns are in the game.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

My two concerns with rogue trader are the Owlcat trends to include way too much combat meshing badly with the turn based design and the Owlcat tendency to include an annoying random mechanic (kingdom management, crusade management).


Overall it's on my list but I still need to play more BG3 and at least one lmg or minigun Underrail run first

combat heavy is the best, part personally and do expect it in rogue as well, and as for the strange mechanic, that has been part of the adventure paths, it wasn't really random in either case.

but short of it is that your concerns are in the game.

They may have been part of the adventure paths but personally cutting those mechanics would have improved both Pathfinder games. Or even just making them more narrative than mechanical - make decisions about the kingdom and crusade without having hours of stuff to do that doesn't really tie back into the rest of the game and is kinda half-baked.

And the combat is definitely a matter of taste but I never did finish kingmaker - at some point considering another 20 hours of basically straight repetitive combat was too much.

Still will probably grab it on sale eventually

[zero]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by zero:

combat heavy is the best, part personally and do expect it in rogue as well, and as for the strange mechanic, that has been part of the adventure paths, it wasn't really random in either case.

but short of it is that your concerns are in the game.

They may have been part of the adventure paths but personally cutting those mechanics would have improved both Pathfinder games. Or even just making them more narrative than mechanical - make decisions about the kingdom and crusade without having hours of stuff to do that doesn't really tie back into the rest of the game and is kinda half-baked.

And the combat is definitely a matter of taste but I never did finish kingmaker - at some point considering another 20 hours of basically straight repetitive combat was too much.

Still will probably grab it on sale eventually

to each their own, in a game as technical as pathfinder i found the combats thrilling personally, and i liked the kingdom/war mechanics, they weren't perfect but they did spice things up for me.

just simply a warning that there is both in this game, though i don't know how ship management works in full, maybe its a lot easier.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by zero:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

They may have been part of the adventure paths but personally cutting those mechanics would have improved both Pathfinder games. Or even just making them more narrative than mechanical - make decisions about the kingdom and crusade without having hours of stuff to do that doesn't really tie back into the rest of the game and is kinda half-baked.

And the combat is definitely a matter of taste but I never did finish kingmaker - at some point considering another 20 hours of basically straight repetitive combat was too much.

Still will probably grab it on sale eventually

to each their own, in a game as technical as pathfinder i found the combats thrilling personally, and i liked the kingdom/war mechanics, they weren't perfect but they did spice things up for me.

just simply a warning that there is both in this game, though i don't know how ship management works in full, maybe its a lot easier.

Oh yeah I know other people like it more.

Though it is kinda ironic that more Underrail is taking precedence for me since that's also combat heavy...


The kingdom and war mechanics I would have liked if there was about 10% as much, but near the end of kingmaker I'd long stopped viewing assigning people to tasks to be more than filler

[rip assenal]

Rogue Trader play out more like Xcom to me.
I don't think both game are comparable as i found both game play quite differently