Dammon's dead.

[Chewygamerz]

Alright so I'm googling for info on Karlach's quest 30 hours into the game only to find out that a vital character for Karlach's quest died in a fight before I even found her. I ain't making another save yet and I ain't loading a save back that far. What am I supposed to do now? Will there ever be another infernal mechanic down the line?

[Aeriar]

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

Alright so I'm googling for info on Karlach's quest 30 hours into the game only to find out that a vital character for Karlach's quest died in a fight before I even found her. I ain't making another save yet and I ain't loading a save back that far. What am I supposed to do now? Will there ever be another infernal mechanic down the line?

No, but depending on the reason of his death if you raided the grove she won't even join your party, so you would not need him.

[Sountrex]

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

Alright so I'm googling for info on Karlach's quest 30 hours into the game only to find out that a vital character for Karlach's quest died in a fight before I even found her. I ain't making another save yet and I ain't loading a save back that far. What am I supposed to do now? Will there ever be another infernal mechanic down the line?

You played yourself, there would be no real way for Dammon to die unless you went ahead and raided the grove and I am not sure why the dude above spoilered that fact since you are obviously way beyond the game maybe even in act 2.

If you are doing a good or at least a decent playthrough there would be no way to mess up that badly for Dammon to be dead, you either raided the grove with the goblins and Minthara, or you started some trouble and game ended everyone there yourself.

But since he is dead... There will be no way for you to forward your quest so yeah, you are pretty much f-ed

[Aeriar]

I misunderstood the timeline, because I read

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

...before I even found her.

as if they didn't find her yet, so they are still in Act 1. So maybe I didn't need to spoiler it, but whatever. There is also the second option though, isn't there? You can be also defending the grove and he might die?

Because if you raid it with Minthara, you can't recruit Karlach, so not having Dammon wouldn't be an issue. So it was probably during the defense?

[seeker1]

Some folks were reporting a "bug out" in earlier patches where the Strange Ox would go berserk and kill Dammon. I think that was totally hotfixed later on, though.

He also can die if LL falls because Isobel gets kidnapped

Here's the basic reality of his death: without Dammon's fixes, Karlach survives until the end of the game, but she will implode on the pier before you can even discuss going with her to Avernus. Of course, also, it makes her romance impossible. Oh and you need him for Armored Owlbear Cub. And, I suppose, Lesser Helldusk Armor.

[Chewygamerz]

Originally posted by Sountrex:

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

Alright so I'm googling for info on Karlach's quest 30 hours into the game only to find out that a vital character for Karlach's quest died in a fight before I even found her. I ain't making another save yet and I ain't loading a save back that far. What am I supposed to do now? Will there ever be another infernal mechanic down the line?

You played yourself, there would be no real way for Dammon to die unless you went ahead and raided the grove and I am not sure why the dude above spoilered that fact since you are obviously way beyond the game maybe even in act 2.

If you are doing a good or at least a decent playthrough there would be no way to mess up that badly for Dammon to be dead, you either raided the grove with the goblins and Minthara, or you started some trouble and game ended everyone there yourself.

But since he is dead... There will be no way for you to forward your quest so yeah, you are pretty much f-ed

Dammon died when I attacked the Druids, which caused the Druids and the Tieflings to fight, Dammon included. Tieflings weren't mad at me. The leader dude of the tieflings asked me to kill the leader of the druids and so I did.

[Frost]

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

Originally posted by Sountrex:

You played yourself, there would be no real way for Dammon to die unless you went ahead and raided the grove and I am not sure why the dude above spoilered that fact since you are obviously way beyond the game maybe even in act 2.

If you are doing a good or at least a decent playthrough there would be no way to mess up that badly for Dammon to be dead, you either raided the grove with the goblins and Minthara, or you started some trouble and game ended everyone there yourself.

But since he is dead... There will be no way for you to forward your quest so yeah, you are pretty much f-ed

Dammon died when I attacked the Druids, which caused the Druids and the Tieflings to fight, Dammon included. Tieflings weren't mad at me. The leader dude of the tieflings asked me to kill the leader of the druids and so I did.

The guy is correct. You played yourself.

This is but one option of many. you chose the quick and bloody option, in which there are consequences. The tensions in the grove are already high, and you tipped the balance by killing one of their own (their acting leader no less), causing the Druids to attempt expelling the Tieflings by force. Dammon is collateral damage from your actions.

It's frustrating, but it is what it is. Next time don't go full murder hobo.

[Perriwen]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Some folks were reporting a "bug out" in earlier patches where the Strange Ox would go berserk and kill Dammon. I think that was totally hotfixed later on, though.

I can vouch that bug is very much not fixed.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Perriwen:

Originally posted by seeker1:

Some folks were reporting a "bug out" in earlier patches where the Strange Ox would go berserk and kill Dammon. I think that was totally hotfixed later on, though.

I can vouch that bug is very much not fixed.

There is no such bug. Especially not in the current game version.

[Perriwen]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Perriwen:

I can vouch that bug is very much not fixed.

There is no such bug. Especially not in the current game version.

Then I'd love to hear your explanation for why it just happened to me, in the current version of the game.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Perriwen:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

There is no such bug. Especially not in the current game version.

Then I'd love to hear your explanation for why it just happened to me, in the current version of the game.

I doubt you are using a playthrough from a recent game version. Once the script is generated for a savegame, there is little to no chance it gets fixed. You need to reload from a point where the script is still not generated for any fixed event. It works like a mod dependency.

[Perriwen]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Perriwen:

Then I'd love to hear your explanation for why it just happened to me, in the current version of the game.

I doubt you are using a playthrough from a recent game version. Once the script is generated for a savegame, there is little to no chance it gets fixed. You need to reload from a point where the script is still not generated for any fixed event. It works like a mod dependency.

You're telling me I had to start a new game after the most recent update to avoid something like this?

[Perriwen]

Originally posted by Jinkaru:

If you kill Ooblex (The "ox") , he explodes in acid and kills Dammon off screen. Unless of course, they fixed it in the latest patch.

All I did was speak to the ox. Then, when I get to Last Light, the ox is there, transforms into an acid blob, and goes berzerk as soon as I get near the forge, and insta-kills Dammon who only has 8 HP.

I just had to spend an hour save scumming to try and get to him and take him out before he gets a hit on Dammon, because one non-miss is all it takes.

[Jinkaru]

Originally posted by Perriwen:

Originally posted by Jinkaru:

If you kill Ooblex (The "ox") , he explodes in acid and kills Dammon off screen. Unless of course, they fixed it in the latest patch.

All I did was speak to the ox. Then, when I get to Last Light, the ox is there, transforms into an acid blob, and goes berzerk as soon as I get near the forge, and insta-kills Dammon who only has 8 HP.

I just had to spend an hour save scumming to try and get to him and take him out before he gets a hit on Dammon, because one non-miss is all it takes.

I think that the bug has to do with Ooblex's scripting and, the circumstances revolving around tagging him as hostile or friendly in ox form. I couldn't even begin to tell you what may cause that, but I really hope it's fixed lol I like that ring for Act 1.

[Blacky Watchy]

Originally posted by Sountrex:

Originally posted by Chewygamerz:

Alright so I'm googling for info on Karlach's quest 30 hours into the game only to find out that a vital character for Karlach's quest died in a fight before I even found her. I ain't making another save yet and I ain't loading a save back that far. What am I supposed to do now? Will there ever be another infernal mechanic down the line?

You played yourself, there would be no real way for Dammon to die unless you went ahead and raided the grove and I am not sure why the dude above spoilered that fact since you are obviously way beyond the game maybe even in act 2.

If you are doing a good or at least a decent playthrough there would be no way to mess up that badly for Dammon to be dead, you either raided the grove with the goblins and Minthara, or you started some trouble and game ended everyone there yourself.

But since he is dead... There will be no way for you to forward your quest so yeah, you are pretty much f-ed

welp: in my case i saved the druid mission for later and continued doing quests to level up, then i saw the grove closed. later on i found the infernal iron i needed and marker leaded me to a dead Dammon as the whole refugees group were dead excepting the dumb human.

[hermit0wl]

Originally posted by Blacky Watchy:

Originally posted by Sountrex:

You played yourself, there would be no real way for Dammon to die unless you went ahead and raided the grove and I am not sure why the dude above spoilered that fact since you are obviously way beyond the game maybe even in act 2.

If you are doing a good or at least a decent playthrough there would be no way to mess up that badly for Dammon to be dead, you either raided the grove with the goblins and Minthara, or you started some trouble and game ended everyone there yourself.

But since he is dead... There will be no way for you to forward your quest so yeah, you are pretty much f-ed

welp: in my case i saved the druid mission for later and continued doing quests to level up, then i saw the grove closed. later on i found the infernal iron i needed and marker leaded me to a dead Dammon as the whole refugees group were dead excepting the dumb human.

If you saw the Grove closed, that means you went to the Mountain Pass, ignoring the pop-up message that tells you to finish the quests in the area first.