Dwarves are disappointing.

[Minamitsu]

Picked to play as a dwarf because i like them in general fantasy, but they just seem like the worst of both worlds. They have reduced movement speed as if they were a small size character, yet are classed as medium so they don't get the benefits of being small.
The race perks are darkvision (which basically everyone gets), and poison resistance, which of course only slightly helps if enemies use a poison attack on you.
For subraces, you can pick Gold Dwarf, who gets a tiny health boost. Shield Dwarf, who gets light/medium armor proficiency which your class should already be doing. And Duergar, who are the only ones with decent bonuses but are a race of slaver pricks.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

I mean you could the the exception duergar! Lol
I prefer shield if I want armor on a caster class without cross classing.

However with gold dwarf and some other stuff I do wonder what your max HP could be in total if you just pumped it lol personally I would say not to min max it to hard, the racial bonus often don't make the build, I was considering duergar druid for enlarge self and transforming seems like it could be fun.

[igor140]

Poison resistance is actually REALLY good if you play on Tactician or above.

Armor proficiency is also really good for many classes.

Not all the races in the game are created equally. Play what you want because it's what you want to play, not because of the metagaming advantages it gives you.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by igor140:

Poison resistance is actually REALLY good if you play on Tactician or above.

Armor proficiency is also really good for many classes.

Not all the races in the game are created equally. Play what you want because it's what you want to play, not because of the metagaming advantages it gives you.

Ih yeah I was gonna say that, poison is more used on the harder difficulties xD so can be quite good!

[The_Dipl0mat]

As long as you're not playing honor mode, rule of cool always surpasses meta. And even then, if you know the game well enough. Still do it on honor mode!

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

As long as you're not playing honor mode, rule of cool always surpasses meta. And even then, if you know the game well enough. Still do it on honor mode!

I might with a mod to enable saves xD
Only cuz I don't trust the game on 1 save yet lol
But I was thinking of trying some other mods for classes and stuff to on my next run anyway xD

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Medium armor prof is nice if you're trying to play an armored arcane caster and don't want to play a gith.

Racial bonuses are intended to be minor so that you'll choose a race for rp'ing, not min/maxing.

Still, I almost always end up playing Wood Elfs, 1/2 or full, because I love move speed and the weapon trainimg.

Human ain't bad either as a caster with light armor prof, shields and polearm prof.

So...I kinda agree with you. I rarely play dwarfs. But then, I rarely play shortstacks, unless I'm playing a gnome for the mental saves (Gnome with Shield Master is really hard to hit).

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

As long as you're not playing honor mode, rule of cool always surpasses meta. And even then, if you know the game well enough. Still do it on honor mode!

I might with a mod to enable saves xD
Only cuz I don't trust the game on 1 save yet lol
But I was thinking of trying some other mods for classes and stuff to on my next run anyway xD

Ah i knew you had no honor! No respect! No beer!! -Urist ripoff quote

[vaas]

who write this? a knive ear? Dwarves dont need your pity bonuses *spits*

[Gorem]

I still love that shield dwarves cannot hold shields

[jonnin]

dark dwarf is very strong. The others are at best average, 12 HP at level 12 is hardly worth mentioning, and medium armor is great for some classes but most of those are better off as some other race (usually gith, who not only has full movement but move enhancing racials).

A good number of excellent classes lack armor: monk, wiz/sorc, bard ...

[👾]

Dwarves are pretty manly usually. But can't have that in BG3 so those things were scrapped and what you are left with is this.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

I like playing Dwarfen Wild Magic Sorcerers, tanking my Charisma, and only taking utility spells or guaranteed hit/dmg spells (such as Magic Missile or Cloud of Daggers).

Dwarf don't care.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by lankaras:

Dwarves are pretty manly usually. But can't have that in BG3 so those things were scrapped and what you are left with is this.

Idk, my hireling dwarf barbarian was pretty manly. Few words, got ♥♥♥♥ done, and was more than eager to be literally thrown into combat

[👾]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by lankaras:

Dwarves are pretty manly usually. But can't have that in BG3 so those things were scrapped and what you are left with is this.

Idk, my hireling dwarf barbarian was pretty manly. Few words, got ♥♥♥♥ done, and was more than eager to be literally thrown into combat

You wouldn't try that with a real dwarf unless you'd like to have your skull split in half.

[Gorem]

Originally posted by jonnin:

dark dwarf is very strong. The others are at best average, 12 HP at level 12 is hardly worth mentioning, and medium armor is great for some classes but most of those are better off as some other race (usually gith, who not only has full movement but move enhancing racials).

A good number of excellent classes lack armor: monk, wiz/sorc, bard ...

Put one level into fighter then the rest can go anywhere.

You now have a character that can wear everything and be anything. I made a fighter/monk who has 26+ AC and around 100 health with all of monks damage/attacks. *just slightly less movement

Monks wearing heavy armour and shields negates the one downside of them.

Essentially, race can be anything, but race giving armour/weapons choices is kinda pointless.