I'm confused about the timeline for the Lathander temple

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Supposedly the Githyanki were the ones who wrecked it and killed the monks. But they are newly arrived, and the temple is overgrown and looks like it has been abandoned for ages.

So what gives?

[Xenomorph Kitty]

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Gith can't procreate by staying strictly in the Astral. As time doesn't pass in that realm. They have to create Creches on Faerun in order for their eggs to be laid and for them to grow up and age.

The Creche was nothing more but a nursery and training ground, until the Nautiloid crash that kicks off the story.

Hmmm that's a hell of a coincidence but the explanation that makes the most sense so far lol.

Yeah, it's coincidental.

But it is all a creche is, Lae'zel even tells you as much when you question her on it when you first let her out of the cage she got trapped in.

They are literally just Hatcheries, nurseries, training grounds. If something happens nearby one that interests the Gith or Vlaakith as a whole then they'll be tasked to dealing with that too.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

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Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

Gith can't procreate by staying strictly in the Astral. As time doesn't pass in that realm. They have to create Creches on Faerun in order for their eggs to be laid and for them to grow up and age.

The Creche was nothing more but a nursery and training ground, until the Nautiloid crash that kicks off the story.

Yeah that makes sense, just a normal old nursery and training ground. Anyway, there is plenty of clear evidence that the creche is older and not newly formed. Ancient gith bodies in vicinity, skeletons in prison cells indicating they have been established for a long period, and the fact that there is only one egg left meaning the rest must have been hatched over the creche's lifespan.

Creches when established will hatch as many runs of eggs as they can over the course of years. The younger Gith you see training are likely teens, from an earlier batch of eggs. The much younger kids are likely batch of eggs thats hatched relatively recently, and was part of the clutch that has the one left in the hatchery.

[Maraxus]

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Hmmm that's a hell of a coincidence but the explanation that makes the most sense so far lol.

Yeah, it's coincidental.

But it is all a creche is, Lae'zel even tells you as much when you question her on it when you first let her out of the cage she got trapped in.

They are literally just Hatcheries, nurseries, training grounds. If something happens nearby one that interests the Gith or Vlaakith as a whole then they'll be tasked to dealing with that too.

Hmm yeah they'd would double as scouting posts/command base/barracks seeing as their culture is extremely martial. And yes now that you mention, the inquisitor had just arrived for this very special occasion. But now I have 2 more questions... when was the absolute plan set in motion and also kinda related... how common are creches in the forgotten realms. xD

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

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Yeah, it's coincidental.

But it is all a creche is, Lae'zel even tells you as much when you question her on it when you first let her out of the cage she got trapped in.

They are literally just Hatcheries, nurseries, training grounds. If something happens nearby one that interests the Gith or Vlaakith as a whole then they'll be tasked to dealing with that too.

Hmm yeah they'd would double as scouting posts/command base/barracks seeing as their culture is extremely martial. And yes now that you mention, the inquisitor had just arrived for this very special occasion. But now I have 2 more questions... when was the absolute plan set in motion and also kinda related... how common are creches in the forgotten realms. xD

The Absolute is something that's been building for awhile.

The Dark Urge was actually the ring leader, and recruited Gortash, Ketheric and Orin, iirc. Which is why Gortash and Ketheric remember you if you play the DU. The DU becomes the first to be infected by the cult because Orin betrays you, carves a hole in your head and implants the tadpole directly.

But how long it's taken the Absolute and the Cult to get the stage you find it in is left up to interpretation. My guess would be several weeks.

As for the creche question, no idea. Given how important creches are to the Gith, given their purpose, they're kept secretive.

[Maraxus]

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Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

Hmm yeah they'd would double as scouting posts/command base/barracks seeing as their culture is extremely martial. And yes now that you mention, the inquisitor had just arrived for this very special occasion. But now I have 2 more questions... when was the absolute plan set in motion and also kinda related... how common are creches in the forgotten realms. xD

The Absolute is something that's been building for awhile.

The Dark Urge was actually the ring leader, and recruited Gortash, Ketheric and Orin, iirc. Which is why Gortash and Ketheric remember you if you play the DU. The DU becomes the first to be infected by the cult because Orin betrays you, carves a hole in your head and implants the tadpole directly.

But how long it's taken the Absolute and the Cult to get the stage you find it in is left up to interpretation. My guess would be several weeks.

As for the creche question, no idea. Given how important creches are to the Gith, given their purpose, they're kept secretive.

Yep this is something I just found out in my first DU run... very kotor-like, I liked it. I would have thought a few months but yeah at this point is up to interpretation. But now I have another question, where did SH steal the artifact from? lol.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

The Absolute is something that's been building for awhile.

The Dark Urge was actually the ring leader, and recruited Gortash, Ketheric and Orin, iirc. Which is why Gortash and Ketheric remember you if you play the DU. The DU becomes the first to be infected by the cult because Orin betrays you, carves a hole in your head and implants the tadpole directly.

But how long it's taken the Absolute and the Cult to get the stage you find it in is left up to interpretation. My guess would be several weeks.

As for the creche question, no idea. Given how important creches are to the Gith, given their purpose, they're kept secretive.

Yep this is something I just found out in my first DU run... very kotor-like, I liked it. I would have thought a few months but yeah at this point is up to interpretation. But now I have another question, where did SH steal the artifact from? lol.

It's left up to interpretation again. Viconia originally sends SH out with her group to steal the artefact because the Absolute is starting to tresspass on Shar territory and followers.

As far as I'm aware, nothing you find or are told gives you any information on where it originally was. If SH and a group was sent out to find it, at a guess I would say relatively near to where the Sharrans are based in Baldurs Gate. But 'relatively near' could really be anywhere. All that's known is that it was stolen from Gith. It might have been another creche.

SH mentions she was fleeing when she got abducted by the Nautiloid, and given a Nautiloids ability to phase shift long distances. It realistically could be anywhere.

[Maraxus]

Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

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Yep this is something I just found out in my first DU run... very kotor-like, I liked it. I would have thought a few months but yeah at this point is up to interpretation. But now I have another question, where did SH steal the artifact from? lol.

It's left up to interpretation again. Viconia originally sends SH out with her group to steal the artefact because the Absolute is starting to tresspass on Shar territory and followers.

As far as I'm aware, nothing you find or are told gives you any information on where it originally was. If SH and a group was sent out to find it, at a guess I would say relatively near to where the Sharrans are based in Baldurs Gate. But 'relatively near' could really be anywhere. All that's known is that it was stolen from Gith. It might have been another creche.

SH mentions she was fleeing when she got abducted by the Nautiloid, and given a Nautiloids ability to phase shift long distances. It realistically could be anywhere.

This is true, perhaps something reserved for future stories... naughty larian... this is something I have been wondering since I first started playing lol.

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

It's left up to interpretation again. Viconia originally sends SH out with her group to steal the artefact because the Absolute is starting to tresspass on Shar territory and followers.

As far as I'm aware, nothing you find or are told gives you any information on where it originally was. If SH and a group was sent out to find it, at a guess I would say relatively near to where the Sharrans are based in Baldurs Gate. But 'relatively near' could really be anywhere. All that's known is that it was stolen from Gith. It might have been another creche.

SH mentions she was fleeing when she got abducted by the Nautiloid, and given a Nautiloids ability to phase shift long distances. It realistically could be anywhere.

This is true, perhaps something reserved for future stories... naughty larian... this is something I have been wondering since I first started playing lol.

I don't think it's that bad of a misstep. Because realistically knowing where the artefact was before it was stolen isn't actually important to the game or the story. It'd just be a kind of background fluff.

You find out why the Gith and Vlaakith are hunting it so fervently, because it contains Orpheus, the only person that can challenge Vlaakith. Obviously it has the Emperor in it too, but I believe he comes across the prism while it's still in Gith possession, which is where he steals the power from Orpheus.

[Maraxus]

Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

This is true, perhaps something reserved for future stories... naughty larian... this is something I have been wondering since I first started playing lol.

I don't think it's that bad of a misstep. Because realistically knowing where the artefact was before it was stolen isn't actually important to the game or the story. It'd just be a kind of background fluff.

You find out why the Gith and Vlaakith are hunting it so fervently, because it contains Orpheus, the only person that can challenge Vlaakith. Obviously it has the Emperor in it too, but I believe he comes across the prism while it's still in Gith possession, which is where he steals the power from Orpheus.

Hmm yeah I'd imagine it'd be in a very fortified place, but doesn't shadowheart mention she ambushed the gith or did she say they were they ambushed? Also it's strange of them leaving that out as there are other way more inconsequential parts of the story that get fleshed out even with flashbacks(like the gnomes vs myconics), seems to me intentional. xD
Also was it ever mentioned where the emperor found the artifact?

[Xenomorph Kitty]

Origineel geplaatst door Maraxus:

Origineel geplaatst door Seri:

I don't think it's that bad of a misstep. Because realistically knowing where the artefact was before it was stolen isn't actually important to the game or the story. It'd just be a kind of background fluff.

You find out why the Gith and Vlaakith are hunting it so fervently, because it contains Orpheus, the only person that can challenge Vlaakith. Obviously it has the Emperor in it too, but I believe he comes across the prism while it's still in Gith possession, which is where he steals the power from Orpheus.

Hmm yeah I'd imagine it'd be in a very fortified place, but doesn't shadowheart mention she ambushed the gith or did she say they were they ambushed? Also it's strange of them leaving that out as there are other way more inconsequential parts of the story that get fleshed out even with flashbacks(like the gnomes vs myconics), seems to me intentional. xD
Also was it ever mentioned where the emperor found the artifact?

Something tells me the Emperor tells you where he found it. But I can't honestly remember as it's been awhile since I've got that far, I'm taking my time with my current play through.

I don't think SH goes into specifics about how people were killed. Just that they were and shes the only one left.

As for the Duergar vs the Myconids. That's not a flashback so much as a telepathic communication to better show you why the Myconid colony has had such issues with them and wants them dead. As the Myconids only talk telepathically, they just want to make themselves understood. So snapshots of memories is the easier route rather than broken common.

[Maraxus]

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Hmm yeah I'd imagine it'd be in a very fortified place, but doesn't shadowheart mention she ambushed the gith or did she say they were they ambushed? Also it's strange of them leaving that out as there are other way more inconsequential parts of the story that get fleshed out even with flashbacks(like the gnomes vs myconics), seems to me intentional. xD
Also was it ever mentioned where the emperor found the artifact?

Something tells me the Emperor tells you where he found it. But I can't honestly remember as it's been awhile since I've got that far, I'm taking my time with my current play through.

I don't think SH goes into specifics about how people were killed. Just that they were and shes the only one left.

As for the Duergar vs the Myconids. That's not a flashback so much as a telepathic communication to better show you why the Myconid colony has had such issues with them and wants them dead. As the Myconids only talk telepathically, they just want to make themselves understood. So snapshots of memories is the easier route rather than broken common.

True but SH could at least mention what happened to her leading up to her finding the artifact... hmm she never mentions that in-game... I think my curiosity is satisfied for the most part... hope more answers come in the future. xD

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