Wich Mage-Class for Charisma and Summonings?

[AndiK]

I have a problem . I want to play a caster-class wich summons stuff like skeletons, elementals and so on. Wizard Necromancer is very interesting i think. On the other side its important for me to have a high attribute of charisma since i want to have many dialog options.

The problem ist that charisma is not a important attribute for the wizard. On the other side charisma is important to sorcerer and warlocks, but they are not specialised in summoning stuff, or ca only summon little wich is not the type of playstyle i want on my first run.

See my problem? What would you recommend me?

-Playing the wizard and maximing charisma anyways?
-Or playing a sorcerer or warlock? But then im not into the summoning?

[Rachel Dawn Amber]

there's so many option.
you go go for 14 dex 16 n 16 wis/char, getting 18 dex gloves in creche
you could multiclass into bard
you could have 2 support to support your checks
you could play sth else in earlier level and swap to necro
or you could just make your companion play necro and you play sth else

[Thespen]

Sorlock is a fun build, summon something big while doing good damage with eldritch blast. it is OK at lower levels but it does take a while to come on-line and be Mega good.

Lots of build guides out there.

[RamboRusina]

You could always rely on scrolls and items for summons which is what I'd recommend. And buff them at camp with temp companions. Summons do so little after act 2 that they are not really worth it(they just feel like clutter in battles even with necro and pally buffing them). You can paralyze easily with coatings leaving you mostly elementals that you can use for environmental effects to combo and you can do that level of summoning easily with scrolls. There are plenty of summon related items in the game to build an army if that's your thing and you can always respec at camp.

If you still insist on having actual summoner class your options are wizard (with paladin which would give you the charisma character) or a druid, but you definitely don't wanna sacrifice your main attribute over charisma.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by AndiK:

Wich Mage-Class for Charisma and Summonings?
I have a problem . I want to play a caster-class wich summons stuff like skeletons, elementals and so on. Wizard Necromancer is very interesting i think. On the other side its important for me to have a high attribute of charisma since i want to have many dialog options.

The problem ist that charisma is not a important attribute for the wizard. On the other side charisma is important to sorcerer and warlocks, but they are not specialised in summoning stuff, or ca only summon little wich is not the type of playstyle i want on my first run.

See my problem? What would you recommend me?

-Playing the wizard and maximing charisma anyways?
-Or playing a sorcerer or warlock? But then im not into the summoning?

Playing a Wizard with high Charisma: why not?

STR: 8
DEX: 10
CON: 13
INT: 17
WIS: 10
CHA: 16

With minions you do not need that much constitution that you would need to worry about it.

Ideal would be a single level dip in Fighter to start with, so you can take Heavy Armour proficiency to make up for the low DEX.

Or as alternative

STR: 8
DEX: 14
CON: 12
INT: 17
WIS: 10
CHA: 14

Dialoguewise the CHA modifier is less worth than proficiency in the skills. So I recommend you do not hang up at a low CHA ability score to begin. You gain more from investing into a feat which ups skills or a level in Bard as starter instead of Fighter than you would from higher CHA score.

Example: +1 modifier every 2 scores wheras you do NOT NEED THAT AT ALL for combat while proficiency is starting with +4 , so as if you kinda go with an ability score of 18. Think about it.

Based on that I recommend using the second suggestion

Make sure to start as Bard for the skill proficiencies.

[Dragon Master]

Well, here's a video about a warlock/spore druid build with a huge focus on summoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7dAf-PzLgI

[craig234]

One thing to consider is if you are ok with another party member having a role. Like, you can have another member with high CHA for dialogue.

[Pat Fenis]

Wizard is the best spellcaster, you can have someone else be the "face" with high charisma if that's your thing. Friends cantrip does a lot of heavy lifting on a middling cha wizard, too.