Question about good and evil

[AndiK]

Are classes like Necromancer or Warlock evil by default regarding the reactions of the NPCs and companions?

Or can i for example play an non evil necromancer and still be a good guy without becoming negative consequences from my surroundings?

[seeker1]

There's no alignment in this game.

Warlocks aren't necessarily evil. Wyll has a fiend for his patron but he seems to be good (if there were algnment). He just made a pact with a fiend out of necessity. There are fey warlocks and celestial warlocks (not all this is in vanilla game) - warlock patrons aren't necessarily evil. And even those with pacts with devils or demons aren't necessarily evil themselves, they might have been forced into a situation.

Most people look at necromancy with a bit of disdain, but I wouldn't expect much reaction from being a necromancer wizard. Subclasses in dialogue are largely ignored. The Oathbreaker might be an exception, I think.

[AndiK]

Is there still NPCs fleeing if u run arround with summoned scelletons for example?

[McGoodGreen]

The only morality issue in this game similiar to what you are talking about are Paladins and their Oaths.

Depending on the Paladin, you have to play by their moral book, or else you risk "breaking your oath" but even then, that is just the game expecting you to be a certain morality and punishing you for it.

You'll get some cute reactions when you, say, play as a Cleric of Shar and talk to Shadowheart. There are awesome nods to your class in unique dialogue options as well.
You get a special reward as a Druid for completing a task regarding Khaga.

But again, that is all flavor stuff and not exactly what it sounds like you are concerned about.

[Banelord]

Originally posted by AndiK:

Are classes like Necromancer or Warlock evil by default regarding the reactions of the NPCs and companions?

Or can i for example play an non evil necromancer and still be a good guy without becoming negative consequences from my surroundings?

The Wokes of the Coast took out the whole alignment system in 5E. The world is a dystopian swamp now, much like modern day one.

[seeker1]

Originally posted by AndiK:

Is there still NPCs fleeing if u run arround with summoned scelletons for example?

Yes, people will run from menacing summons. And often the undead. You might not want to walk around a town or village with lots of undead around you.

[jonnin]

necromancy comes in several flavors. For example that speak with dead spell is used by good people to investigate murders, which is a good / lawful thing. Raising zombies however is generally considered evil by all sane, normal societies. The thayans may not count as either sane nor normal :) And warlocks can bind to neutral, even goodly fey and other beings. Many warlocks made a stupid mistake, took an easy looking path and got tricked... but if you went out seeking that class and took it by offering your soul to a demon, yes, that is evil in the sense that evil is often just another face of selfishness and disregard of consequences.

The game largely ignores good and evil, but D&D campaigns are often about the hard choices and moral compass. Some games have more of that, this one has nearly none. That aside, evil is often tied to your own moral compass... for example, consider the diablo necromancer, who is, basically, learning from his enemy and using the spells and powers that the demons have back against them, 'fight fire with fire' approach. It may not be a nice thing to do, but his motives are pure -- for the endless debate of the ends justifying the means, etc.

[seeker1]

Alignment was not removed from the 5E rules. Still there. Still defines the structure and nature of the Outer Planes and gods still have defined alignments. Bane, Gortash's god, is Lawful Evil, and so is he. It was de-emphasized and alignment restrictions for classes like Paladin were eased.

BG3 just doesn't use it. They decided they didn't want it in the game design. But it's not gone from 5E.

[Sol]

Originally posted by seeker1:

Originally posted by AndiK:

Is there still NPCs fleeing if u run arround with summoned scelletons for example?

Yes, people will run from menacing summons. And often the undead. You might not want to walk around a town or village with lots of undead around you.

They actually patched that out with Patch 3 months ago: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-3-mac-support-magic-mirror-more_93

[Sol]

And to answer you OP, you can absolutely play a necromancer or warlock without being evil in this game. How NPCs primarily react to you is through your direct actions and words within the game, instead of your base-class. Though they will react to your race without prompting. For example Drows and Githyanki looked at with disgust or unease, depending on the NPC.

[Darksaint]

Originally posted by AndiK:

Is there still NPCs fleeing if u run arround with summoned scelletons for example?

Not in Thay.

[Hobocop]

Originally posted by Sol:

Originally posted by seeker1:

Yes, people will run from menacing summons. And often the undead. You might not want to walk around a town or village with lots of undead around you.

They actually patched that out with Patch 3 months ago: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-3-mac-support-magic-mirror-more_93

Yeah, it was causing a lot of issues with breaking scripted sequences, so despite how cool it might have been, removing it was better for the flow of the game overall.

[Sol]

Originally posted by Hobocop:

Originally posted by Sol:

They actually patched that out with Patch 3 months ago: https://baldursgate3.game/news/patch-3-mac-support-magic-mirror-more_93

Yeah, it was causing a lot of issues with breaking scripted sequences, so despite how cool it might have been, removing it was better for the flow of the game overall.

As much as it added cool flavor to the game, it was a massive drain on my resources in my Ranger run since I has to desummon and resummon my bear and spider whenever I got to friendly NPCs. I genuinely didn't pick spiders any more because of it.

[harken23]

In the original rules of D&D (and AD&D), if you aren't evil, you can't use poison (without consequences), so to this day, I don't use poison attacks in RPGs.

[Wokelander]

Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

[Darksaint]

Originally posted by Wokelander:

Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

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