Some hetero couples

[RhodosGuard]

Just for people with brains made of cheese, and cant remember any straight/hetero couples:

Bex and Danis are literally some of the first NPCs you can meet in the Grove, they are encountered throughout the whole game.
They literally give you cookies if you save the Tieflings from Moonrise.

There is a Gondian whose wife you rescue from the Iron Throne

Duke Ravengard has a son, it is therefore implied he had/has a wife, Wylls mom.

Same logic applies to Ketheric who had a wife, Isobels Mom.

Arabells Parents who die in Act 2, straight couple.

The Family that took refuge in Arfurs House in Rivington.

Jaheira has kids and mentions her husband if you enter her secret area in Baldurs Gate.

Edit: Oskar Fevras and Lady Jannath

I am sure that even now I am missing some.

[Aeriar]

Gortash's parents, although not exactly an ideal couple.

Baelen and Derryth Bonecloak, with the Nobelstalk, again, not ideal couple.

That guy you resque from burning in Waukeen's Rest, who's wife died there.

[EricHVela]

A bit of exploration shows that it's explicit not implicit that Thorm had a wife. Lots of references to her if one only takes a moment to read. He lost her first. Then years later, he lost his daughter followed immediately by losing his mind, blaming the gods for letting his life get whittled away piece by piece and turning to loss to try to forget, which didn't work, and turning to Myrkul and the Chosen to get Isobel back.

Yenna's mother's missing. Maybe Yenna's adopted, but it's just as easy to assume there was a dad in the picture at some point. The first kid you are forced to meet when entering act 3.

Lots of idle chatter in Act 3 regarding hetero parents and their kids. Not a lot of idle chatter in act 2 at all. Who'd want to have idle chats with the shadows on the doorstep?

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

A bit of exploration shows that it's explicit not implicit that Thorm had a wife. Lots of references to her if one only takes a moment to read. He lost her first. Then years later, he lost his daughter followed immediately by losing his mind, blaming the gods for letting his life get whittled away piece by piece and turning to loss to try to forget, which didn't work, and turning to Myrkul and the Chosen to get Isobel back.

Yenna's mother's missing. Maybe Yenna's adopted, but it's just as easy to assume there was a dad in the picture at some point. The first kid you are forced to meet when entering act 3.

Lots of idle chatter in Act 3 regarding hetero parents and their kids. Not a lot of idle chatter in act 2 at all. Who'd want to have idle chats with the shadows on the doorstep?

I know that it isnt implied with Ketheric, my point was, that we are introduced to at least one parent, so we can, at the very least, assume there was another parent.

And this applies even if the kid was adopted. You need a mother and a father, at least for most races, even in D&D to create a kid.

But I didnt want to be overly reductive and just say "The existence of every humanoid character in the game implies that their exists a pair of parents for them that were straight"

[id795078477]

.. basically, take any NPC in this game. His/her parents are a straight couple. Shoooooking.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by id795078477:

.. basically, take any NPC in this game. His/her parents are a straight couple. Shoooooking.

Which is what I explicitely didnt say, but thanks for making the point for me.

What I alluded to, was that of 2 main characters of the game, we know and meet at least one parent who would have had a partner.

[Dude]

having children does not require being hetro at all., could a product of rape, could be a product of aranged marriage, could be a product of just aksing someone to impregnate you. many options

also none of the above is represented like aylin and isobel or larissa and her chick.

[Orion Invictus]

Karlach's parents, whose grave you literally visit.

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You can't be sure that a person is 100% heterosexual and cisgender until you get into their pants and soul.

[👾]

If the point needs to be made that there are at least some hetero couples, that tells you everything.

[Stania]

Gale and Mystra
At least time ago.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Wölki:

having children does not require being hetro at all., could a product of rape, could be a product of aranged marriage, could be a product of just aksing someone to impregnate you. many options

also none of the above is represented like aylin and isobel or larissa and her chick.

Oh yeah. Every character in the game that exists was likely a product of rape or a arranged marriage, or being asked to be impregnated

And that they are not "represented" like Isobel and Aylin may be the result of, I dunno, Aylin literally being the daughter of the god isobel worships, being a literal angel, being the "artifact" that the whole of act 2 revolves around.

When it comes to Lakrissa, then I have to say, ehm, no? At the very least Bex and Danis are represented the exact same.

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Karlach's parents, whose grave you literally visit.

Oh right. I was at first only considering parents of which we meet at least one as an alive character.

Originally posted by lankaras:

If the point needs to be made that there are at least some hetero couples, that tells you everything.

The point was not that there are "some hetero couples" the point was that ignorant bigots will gleefully pretend that these hetero couples dont actually exist, in order to push the idea that the game is "over-representing" non-traditional partnerships.

[EricHVela]

Originally posted by Wölki:

having children does not require being hetro at all., could a product of rape, could be a product of aranged marriage, could be a product of just aksing someone to impregnate you. many options

also none of the above is represented like aylin and isobel or larissa and her chick.

Also, many DMs have taken to using "magic" to create genetically descendant children from non-hetero couples... but such magics are (so-far) limited to the rich and powerful.

It's the current parents of the kids and no evidence of magics being used to change the birth means in BG3.

The issue is people are focusing on the non-hetero relationships and completely ignoring the masses of hetero ones.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Originally posted by Wölki:

having children does not require being hetro at all., could a product of rape, could be a product of aranged marriage, could be a product of just aksing someone to impregnate you. many options

also none of the above is represented like aylin and isobel or larissa and her chick.

Also, many DMs have taken to using "magic" to create genetically descendant children from non-hetero couples... but such magics are (so-far) limited to the rich and powerful.

It's the current parents of the kids and no evidence of magics being used to change the birth means in BG3.

The issue is people are focusing on the non-hetero relationships and completely ignoring the masses of hetero ones.

Any sources from actual sourcebooks?
Because "Many DMs" are not the de-facto deciders of lore within the Forgotten Realms.

[id795078477]

Originally posted by Wölki:

having children does not require being hetro at all., could a product of rape, could be a product of aranged marriage, could be a product of just aksing someone to impregnate you. many options

also none of the above is represented like aylin and isobel or larissa and her chick.

Yeah.. nope, you lost me there. Since everyone is always yelling about equality, this is pretty much the same as if my GF/wife would tell me - "hey, I love you but I need to eff that other dude to produce offspring - which by the way, you will be legally responsible for and you will raise. if you love me, you'll understand me and agree with it"

Just .. no.

Originally posted by EricHVela:

Also, many DMs have taken to using "magic" to create genetically descendant children from non-hetero couples... but such magics are (so-far) limited to the rich and powerful.

As usual, resort to "magic" when things don't work as the narrative wants to go. Of course, selectively - working on the bits where it aligns with the said narrative. For instance, it's funny that there is an in-lore magic like disguise self which pretty much allows for changing genders, yet T is a thing in the game. The entire point about T was to transition, wasn't it? So use the "magic" and be done with it? Aaaah... but you see - that goes against the narrative - because suddenly there's no need for that thing at all! Oh bollocks.

[Dude]

well lesbians do that in reality (and gays basically rent a womb until birth) ok today the impregnation is done by doctors but that would not be an option in that world.

maybe the magic version someone else mentioned.

also @thodosguard: you should learn the meaning of the word "could"