Why is it okay to turn Gale into a woman, but not Dame Aylin into a man?

[Fox]

Just wondering about the whole double standard that has been going on.

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[Bob!]

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

One replaces a playersexual companion's gender, the other erases a lesbian npc and replaces her with a man who makes a snide remark about having tried being a women once. They are not the same.

LOL wut??? Where does it do this?

Also wtf does it matter whether it replaces a companion or other non-romancable NPC? There's been genderbend mods for such for decades.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Bob!:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

On top of which it'd be pretty hard to bash in the mod maker's head when they're so anonymous nobody knows a single identifying trait like gender or ethnicity until the mod maker started (supposedly) sharing this themselves.

There is some messed up mob stuff online, but I haven't actually heard anything happened here beyond the banning and random junk news articles about it because they spam BG 3 articles.

People have doxxed others with less. And it doesn't stop someone coming out with "I know who that is! My friend's brother was on the team" or something, and then it going downhill from there, with all the media articles being used as justification for everything that might happen to them.
Because "we don't tolerate intolerance" so everything is ok, seems to be the mantra..

Welcome to the internet. Its far from a pretty place

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by THIS GAME ⁧⁧SUCKS:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

I just wish people would shut up about it already. Boo hoo, its not on Nexus. Damage is done already, its horrible yadda yadda. Theres alternate site, and things move on

Not surprised furry avi is expert on alternative mod sites to Nexus. Not everyone wants to sign-up on another website, let's be real
-Philip

I wish I wasn't an "expert" on em, I just keep seeing these same threads constantly and keep seeing the same sites talked about over and over

[LupisVolk]

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i get what you mean i just don't agree that it is cleaning it up, just prolongs it lintel the thread get locked neither side is move by any action taken here

These people will go once the new shiny "woke" game has been found, then they'll go off and rail against it.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Government censorship is.

Kicking a guest out of your house for swearing is not a political issue.

A movie studio cutting a violent scene to appeal to larger audiences is also not a political issue.

So nope, still doesn't make this political, no government involved.

Okay, nothing to see here, lawyer.

Are you really saying that someone trying to prevent their child from swearing is a political issue? It's censorship! It must be political according to you!


Honestly this is the part of these threads I find the most sad, people aren't interested in being right. It's obviously not a political topic but they won't admit it.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i get what you mean i just don't agree that it is cleaning it up, just prolongs it lintel the thread get locked neither side is move by any action taken here

These people will go once the new shiny "woke" game has been found, then they'll go off and rail against it.

My guess is uh. Space Marine 2? People aren't happy there's an Indian cadian and a black space marine

[Bob!]

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

Originally posted by Bob!:

People are noticing this stuff more, at least.

If by people you mean insecure men (mostly white) who see everything with a woman or none white as a personal slight against them.

Funnily enough the (main?) modder is a brown female muslim..

It's always the most "tolerant" and "inclusive" ones who presume people's race sex and sexuality, then demonise them for it too, lol.

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i get what you mean i just don't agree that it is cleaning it up, just prolongs it lintel the thread get locked neither side is move by any action taken here

These people will go once the new shiny "woke" game has been found, then they'll go off and rail against it.

I'd say I genuinely can't wait for the next woke game to be released but that feels almost like wishing ill on the fandom of that game, if it should be good enough to develop one.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i get what you mean i just don't agree that it is cleaning it up, just prolongs it lintel the thread get locked neither side is move by any action taken here

These people will go once the new shiny "woke" game has been found, then they'll go off and rail against it.

Starfield was supposed to be our savior in this regard but it didn't hold attention very long.

[kbiz]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by kbiz:

Okay. But you're cool with female-to-male mods though. Ya gotta be! No?

Again, let me reiterate seeing as you missed it

I don't give two ♥♥♥♥♥ on if they're made or distributed. I find it kind of icky to change a character, but my feelings shouldn't effect on if someone wants it or not. Just means I won't download it

I've never even been to NexusMods. I'm looking to this community to give me the straight scoop.

Okay, female-to-male mods are good with you. Sure, why not? If one gender switch is okay, all are okay.

[Bob!]

Originally posted by Moonlight Knight:

Originally posted by Bob!:

Well you do though since someone modding a lesbian char makes you feel "gross", but if they modded a non-lesbian one, it wouldn't?

I think that taking a story about marginalized people and tweaking a part of it to make it not about marginalized people is gross. It's not about the specific identity. It's about taking a story away from people who already don't have many to see themselves in.

They're not taking anything from you though???
Literally start up your BG3 and look, you see lesbians, yes?

[Moonlight Knight]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by LupisVolk:

These people will go once the new shiny "woke" game has been found, then they'll go off and rail against it.

Starfield was supposed to be our savior in this regard but it didn't hold attention very long.

Trash game

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Again, let me reiterate seeing as you missed it

I've never even been to NexusMods. I'm looking to this community to give me the straight scoop.

Okay, female-to-male mods are good with you. Sure, why not? If one gender switch is okay, all are okay.

Mod is a mod. As long as it doesn't have malware or some ♥♥♥♥ people can download it. Considering people aren't paying Nexus to host the mods either, I don't expect them to be hosted. If I had a favorite hair mod on Nexus that got removed, I'd be bummed a bit. But I wouldn't cry or mope, I'd just grab it from another site or backup my own copy

[Aldain]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by Bob!:

It actually is though, since being arrested for that is relevant to health law, and politicians create law, hence, political..

Also if the modders were in the U.K then they could ABSOLUTELY be arrested, based on what they've been accused of, with the media articles being used as "evidence" (despite it all being based on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reddit..). Fortunately I think they're in the U.S, based on her timestamp etc.

Wait so your argument here is actually that literally everything is political, including bagels?

See, that's exactly the overuse I was complaining about! It doesn't mean anything at that point.

Normally it's me complaining about that issue.

Which I now shall, because it's a universally stupid way of thinking about things and causes regressive tribalism to pop up all too often on topics that have no place for it. But from what I know of the U.K.'s laws...I don't trust the U.K. whatsoever in that regard.

...Also, unrelated to the topic, but I do have to say that having been around anime/manga for years I do find that there's an overwhelming amount of male-into-female gender bending in series (sometimes as an entire plot of a series apparently) while the opposite is virtually unseen for the most part. Just seems kind of unequal to me.

[zero]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Again, let me reiterate seeing as you missed it

I've never even been to NexusMods. I'm looking to this community to give me the straight scoop.

Okay, female-to-male mods are good with you. Sure, why not? If one gender switch is okay, all are okay.

things aren't all or nothing, we judge things upon their individual merits.

in other words: some mods will be okay and some won't be.

its always so silly how scared people are of a gay people in a video game.