Baldur's Gate 3

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Fox Jan 2, 2024 @ 9:50am
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Why is it okay to turn Gale into a woman, but not Dame Aylin into a man?
Just wondering about the whole double standard that has been going on.

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Last edited by Fox; Jan 2, 2024 @ 7:45pm
Originally posted by GladiatorB200:
cause making her a him goes against the company's agenda pushing so its wrong think
its not about any idea of "diversity/inclusion/representation" or other narrative spins

its about the audience not being allowed to push against the virtue signaling
same reason to spiderman flag mod removal, white wyll, or changing localization to be more accurate

audience must be forced to conform to the standard they impose

it broke no rule or guideline just their moral decay
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Adam__86 Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by GladiatorB200:
cause making her a him goes against the company's agenda pushing so its wrong think
its not about any idea of "diversity/inclusion/representation" or other narrative spins

its about the audience not being allowed to push against the virtue signaling
same reason to spiderman flag mod removal, white wyll, or changing localization to be more accurate

audience must be forced to conform to the standard they impose

it broke no rule or guideline just their moral decay

Larian owns Nexus?
brendan_in_china Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
Originally posted by brendan_in_china:
OP, because rules for thee, but not for me.

But regardless, mod doesn't change the worst feature of that character. Still saddled with an unlikable DMPC.
Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet? They are generally quite unlikeable, true.
You try running a DMPC like that in a TT game. See how your players react. She/he is deleterious to the game, a detraction not an asset.
surreptitious Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:54am 
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Just move on already. No one asked, no one cares.
I care

Personally I love watching the woke display true colors
They are not some keepers of virtue and do not represent any portion of society but their special interest group.

The real crime is that the result was a white man .

That one act (Ban the Mod)... devalued every single argument or point they were trying to push and revealed them for the intolerant bigoted special interest group they are.
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Adam__86 Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by surreptitious:
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Just move on already. No one asked, no one cares.
I care

Personally I love watching the woke display true colors
They are not some keepers of virtue and do not represent any portion of society but their special interest group.

The real crime is that the result was a white man .

That one act (Ban the Mod)... devalued every single argument or point they were trying to push and revealed them for the intolerant bigoted special interest group they are.
Free healthcare is important people
Moonlight Knight Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by surreptitious:
Originally posted by Recjawjind:
Just move on already. No one asked, no one cares.
I care

Personally I love watching the woke display true colors
They are not some keepers of virtue and do not represent any portion of society but their special interest group.

The real crime is that the result was a white man .

That one act ... devalued every single argument or point they were trying to push and revealed them for the intolerant bigoted special interest group they are.
This is such a stretch. A reach, even.
Drakhesh Jan 2, 2024 @ 11:58am 
Because removing this mod is a cheap and easy virtue signal. Nothing more, nothing less - it was not some grand moral stance, but a simple show for the show sake. To make NexusMods be talked about. How am I so certain?
Because you can still download a bunch of mods who'll turn Astarion into a cute tomboy. Or mod for making Wyll into voluptuous lady strolling through battlefield with 9th month pregnancy. Or make Shadowheart into square-jawed chadbro.

It never had anything to do with "standing for inclusivity" or "supporting LGBT rights". They did it, because they new removing this mod would stir up internet arguments, and that's just free advertisement for them, more traction on their website. If they really gave a flying fudge about what they claim they do, they'd put the torch to every mod who makes such changes - but that'd make people seek out different modding sites and that's not the goal at all.

And it's stupid, no matter how you look like it and what your ideological/political stance is. If I as a gay dude have the freedom to turn every single companion into a buff man to fulfill my fantasy, than some other guy should have the freedom to make it all "straight and narrow". and someone else to spray the whole thing with a "Man-B-Gone" and fill Faerun with nothing but women as far as eye can see.
Fox Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by Drakhesh:
Because removing this mod is a cheap and easy virtue signal. Nothing more, nothing less - it was not some grand moral stance, but a simple show for the show sake. To make NexusMods be talked about. How am I so certain?
Because you can still download a bunch of mods who'll turn Astarion into a cute tomboy. Or mod for making Wyll into voluptuous lady strolling through battlefield with 9th month pregnancy. Or make Shadowheart into square-jawed chadbro.

It never had anything to do with "standing for inclusivity" or "supporting LGBT rights". They did it, because they new removing this mod would stir up internet arguments, and that's just free advertisement for them, more traction on their website. If they really gave a flying fudge about what they claim they do, they'd put the torch to every mod who makes such changes - but that'd make people seek out different modding sites and that's not the goal at all.

And it's stupid, no matter how you look like it and what your ideological/political stance is. If I as a gay dude have the freedom to turn every single companion into a buff man to fulfill my fantasy, than some other guy should have the freedom to make it all "straight and narrow". and someone else to spray the whole thing with a "Man-B-Gone" and fill Faerun with nothing but women as far as eye can see.
Very well said.

Thank You.
Tao314zdin Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
Originally posted by Drakhesh:
Because removing this mod is a cheap and easy virtue signal. Nothing more, nothing less - it was not some grand moral stance, but a simple show for the show sake.
I wonder if it would help them in a long run though. I mean, I don't think I will ever drop any mods on their web-site again, but that just me.

Also ironically they actually promoted the no-alphabet mod, because now it is easier to get the whole package vs just changing aylin as the mod on Nexus was doing.
Sonic Titan Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by brendan_in_china:
Originally posted by Sonic Titan:
Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet? They are generally quite unlikeable, true.
You try running a DMPC like that in a TT game. See how your players react. She/he is deleterious to the game, a detraction not an asset.
If I tried to introduce that department in a TT game, I imagine the players would be kind of mad, yeah.

They love Aylin, though. Deleterious makes us delirious, maybe?
Adam__86 Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by Fox:
Originally posted by Drakhesh:
Because removing this mod is a cheap and easy virtue signal. Nothing more, nothing less - it was not some grand moral stance, but a simple show for the show sake. To make NexusMods be talked about. How am I so certain?
Because you can still download a bunch of mods who'll turn Astarion into a cute tomboy. Or mod for making Wyll into voluptuous lady strolling through battlefield with 9th month pregnancy. Or make Shadowheart into square-jawed chadbro.

It never had anything to do with "standing for inclusivity" or "supporting LGBT rights". They did it, because they new removing this mod would stir up internet arguments, and that's just free advertisement for them, more traction on their website. If they really gave a flying fudge about what they claim they do, they'd put the torch to every mod who makes such changes - but that'd make people seek out different modding sites and that's not the goal at all.

And it's stupid, no matter how you look like it and what your ideological/political stance is. If I as a gay dude have the freedom to turn every single companion into a buff man to fulfill my fantasy, than some other guy should have the freedom to make it all "straight and narrow". and someone else to spray the whole thing with a "Man-B-Gone" and fill Faerun with nothing but women as far as eye can see.
Very well said.

Thank You.
Thank you for agreeing with me
Fox Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by Adam__86:
Originally posted by Fox:
Very well said.

Thank You.
Thank you for agreeing with me
Please stop injecting your own values from other people Intellectual work.
Adam__86 Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Fox:
Originally posted by Adam__86:
Thank you for agreeing with me
Please stop injecting your own values from other people Intellectual work.
Public domain suck it up
Moonlight Knight Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Fox:
Originally posted by Adam__86:
Thank you for agreeing with me
Please stop injecting your own values from other people Intellectual work.
Like you guys are doing when you make mods that erase things that go against your values and then advertise them as "the way the game should have been"?
Altimely Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Fox:
Originally posted by Adam__86:
Thank you for agreeing with me
Please stop injecting your own values from other people Intellectual work.
Pot, meet kettle.

And the real reason the mod was taken down: The mod creator was known for creating other inflammatory mods, so they had lost the benefit of the doubt that the gender-bending mod was innocent.

Also LMFAO at the video you linked to. The most click-bait ridden title and thumbnail. That this is the type of media you consume explains so much.
zero Jan 2, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
gale being a woman doesn't erase a canonical lesbian couple.

know what happens when you make gale a woman? you still get the same romance option anyway.

its almost as if the situations around the characters are directly tied into the logic.
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