Tiefling Hideout (early act 1 spoilers)

[Skyperson375]

Hi all,

I found the Tiefling Hideout in the grove. I googled it and people talked about needing a password to get in - for me that's not the case, I passed a perception check speaking to the kid outside, the kid disappeared, and I was able to follow him into the hideout. Should there have been a password check?

Mol in there did a countdown and then disappeared. Nothing else happened.

Again doing a search said there are quests I can get where Mol becomes friendly.

Is Mol going to reappear so I can do those quests, or is this area still bugged in the game? Should I just not follow the kid into the hideout until I get a reason to go there?

Thanks.

[Mike Garrison]

If you help the tief kids and have the password given to you, Mol is friendly to you. If you get in there before you help the tief kids, Mol can end up unfriendly to you.

[Tao314zdin]

Well what is likely to happen: at some point Mol will tell tieflings standing near their training area that your MC was mean to kids. This will result in a fight (unless you want to use deception) where you can kill part of the tieflings and Wyll with them if he is not on your crew.

Just be careful to not slaughter all the teiflings (do not wonder far from the spot and others will not agro), they will not give a crap about it when the fight ends and you are fine.

Also if you save the kids Mol will not remember what happened and will be friendly in ACT 2.

[Skyperson375]

So can I just clear up - should I go into the Tief hideout when I first discover it? Mol gives me a countdown and then disappears.

Or is that going to cause bugs further down the road? Or will quests play out properly even if she counts down and then disappears? Does she come back so I can talk to her to do any quests that might involve her a bit later? (eg. ones that tell me to go to the hideout - no spoilers on quest specifics please)

Thanks.

[Harag]

Originally posted by Skyperson375:

So can I just clear up - should I go into the Tief hideout when I first discover it? Mol gives me a countdown and then disappears.

Or is that going to cause bugs further down the road? Or will quests play out properly even if she counts down and then disappears? Does she come back so I can talk to her to do any quests that might involve her a bit later? (eg. ones that tell me to go to the hideout - no spoilers on quest specifics please)

Thanks.

I too found the hideout like you and after I left I later ran into the kids shop and helped another one that gave me a "password", however the password is of no use now as I already found an alternative way in. Mol did the same for me, counted and ran. I've not bumped into Mol yet so not sure what will happen, still on act 1.

I've lived with the choice and carried on (I don't save scum), however on the next play through you might want to do some "meta gaming" and get the password first. :)

[Skyperson375]

Originally posted by Harag:

Originally posted by Skyperson375:

So can I just clear up - should I go into the Tief hideout when I first discover it? Mol gives me a countdown and then disappears.

Or is that going to cause bugs further down the road? Or will quests play out properly even if she counts down and then disappears? Does she come back so I can talk to her to do any quests that might involve her a bit later? (eg. ones that tell me to go to the hideout - no spoilers on quest specifics please)

Thanks.

I too found the hideout like you and after I left I later ran into the kids shop and helped another one that gave me a "password", however the password is of no use now as I already found an alternative way in. Mol did the same for me, counted and ran. I've not bumped into Mol yet so not sure what will happen, still on act 1.

I've lived with the choice and carried on (I don't save scum), however on the next play through you might want to do some "meta gaming" and get the password first. :)

OK. So you found the password that in theory makes them friendly, but Mol has still disappeared because you went in early?

I've discovered the hatch - which I can enter without a password - but I guess I might not go in until I've been invited. Then I guess when Mol threatens me with her countdown hopefully there'll be an option to make her friendlier.

When I go in and Mol counts down, the other tieflings are friendly in there, it's just she disappears. Even leaving before she finishes her countdown - returning, she's still counting down. Is there any way to make her return?

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[Mike Garrison]

Mol is an interesting character. I don't think I'm alone in saying:

I was sympathetic to her when I first started playing BG3, but the more I played the game the more I realized she is ruthlessly taking advantage of all the other kids. They think she is helping them, but really she's just looking out for herself and manipulating them. Manipulating you too, if you let her.

[Tao314zdin]

Originally posted by Skyperson375:

So can I just clear up - should I go into the Tief hideout when I first discover it? Mol gives me a countdown and then disappears.

Or is that going to cause bugs further down the road? Or will quests play out properly even if she counts down and then disappears? Does she come back so I can talk to her to do any quests that might involve her a bit later? (eg. ones that tell me to go to the hideout - no spoilers on quest specifics please)

Thanks.

I do not think she will come back to the hideout (for the rest of ACT 1 she will want nothing to do with MC)

In ACT 2 however (provided that you saved both kids at least) she does not recall any of this and is friendly

Is it a bug? IMO, it is just poorly polished quest/world-state logic.

Do you lose any quests on that - not really (if you do not kill too many tieflings and/or Wyll). Or at least I do not recall anything significant Mol would do in ACT 1 otherwise.

[Skyperson375]

Originally posted by Tao314zdin:

Originally posted by Skyperson375:

So can I just clear up - should I go into the Tief hideout when I first discover it? Mol gives me a countdown and then disappears.

Or is that going to cause bugs further down the road? Or will quests play out properly even if she counts down and then disappears? Does she come back so I can talk to her to do any quests that might involve her a bit later? (eg. ones that tell me to go to the hideout - no spoilers on quest specifics please)

Thanks.

I do not think she will come back to the hideout (for the rest of ACT 1 she will want nothing to do with MC)

In ACT 2 however (provided that you saved both kids at least) she does not recall any of this and is friendly

Is it a bug? IMO, it is just poorly polished quest/world-state logic.

Do you lose any quests on that - not really (if you do not kill too many tieflings and/or Wyll). Or at least I do not recall anything significant Mol would do in ACT 1 otherwise.

Thanks. In terms of getting the most 'Mol' content, it sounds as if I shouldn't enter the hideout until I have good reason to from later in Act 1, then - hopefully there'll be a dialogue option to make her friendly at that point even if I don't need a password to get in...

[Annie Other]

You can enter the Tiefling Hideout after helping a certain amount of kids who are all in the area. I had helped two kids and been nice to a third which was enough to be at friendly terms with Mol.

[seeker1]

Mol discussion -- Spoilers?


As you will later find out, Mol is "in contract" with Raphael, so to speak.

In Act 3, where else is she, but of course, the Thieves' Guild.

I wasn't the least bit surprised by this. That said, me Mr. Oblivious actually didn't notice that her and Raphael are sitting in Last Light Inn playing a game when you first arrive. ... which they are. Raphael is there playing a game with her, but at that point, says nothing to you. At least not until your choose to interact.

Mol can give you one of the best buff benefits for 'gather your allies' if you give her Raphael's contract, releasing her. But won't do this if you tell her you killed Raphael, so don't.

[Skyperson375]

For anyone else who's interested, (minor spoilers ahead), I went to the kids standing a few feet away and when they tried to pickpocket me, I let them off. I also helped the kid who was trying to pickpocket the guy in the small bar area at the bottom of the grove area. And now I can enter the hideout - nothing about passwords being mentioned - and Mol doesn't do the countdown and disappear, instead thanks me for being nice to the kids.