[Hetero Male Playthru] Need best hireling female specs

[Riitoken]

Here is a recent screenshot of me and the girls.
(thank you Larian for having the foresight to offer spec'd hirelings)

Fighter, Cleric, Ranger, Bard
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3126757139
The plan is to start a new game with a solo rogue and stealth straight for Withers thru the abbey - never done it, not even sure it's possible solo or optimal. Once Withers is back at camp, the rogue will steal gold (not even sure if Withers has any gold at the start). Then I'll use that gold to spec 3 traditional hetero female hirelings. And I'll respec my MC to human fighter.

Here are my self-imposed traditional hetero features:

• The MC is the IRL gender of the player. So male for me.
  
• Hirelings are hetero (male or female). I'll be spec'ing 3 females.
  
• Humans are preferred but elves and half-elves are fine.
  
• The females can't be high STR combat roles (should be STR<=10).
  
• Females are limited to cloth and hide and leather only.
  
• Females have weapon restrictions (below).
  
• Females can use all ranged weapons.

Restrictions on female weapons (per STR<=10):
1-handed only except for quarterstaff.
1-handed limited to light weapons: daggers, short-swords, etc.
Shields are limited to AC=1 bucklers.

I've only recently returned to D&D 5E. A lot has changed. The new rules are rich and complex. And BG3 did a great job modeling this complexity. I am very impressed.

Given what I've described, please describe what you'd spec under these conditions above.

[Riitoken]

A big thx to you who offered advice for my Withers speed run idea.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1086940/discussions/0/4034727620347534928/

[Riitoken]

Right now, at level 11, my Ranger (Angie) seems lackluster for DPS. A recent fight inside a sanctum against githyanki crossbows really demonstrated the contrast. The githyanki females shot farther and critted more.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Personally I just max out strength stats

[Adam__86]

You mean the incel playthrough

[Adam__86]

Need to affirm heterosexual status CHECK
Refering to women as female CHECK
Saying women are weaker CHECK
Women wearing skimpy attire CHECK

[Riitoken]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Personally I just max out strength stats

I hear ya. That would be my norm as well for an all male group. My goal here is a theme run based on some self-imposed real world physics (obviously not part of the 5E rules).

If I am the only up-front combat character, then I'm interested in some decent specs for the chicks in ranged roles: Cleric, Wizard, Sorc, Ranger, Bard, etc.

I do allow a Rogue spec but daggers and shortswords only, and STR=10 max.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Riitoken:

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Personally I just max out strength stats

I hear ya. That would be my norm as well for an all male group. My goal here is a theme run based on some self-imposed real world physics (obviously not part of the 5E rules).

If I am the only up-front combat character, then I'm interested in some decent specs for the chicks in ranged roles: Cleric, Wizard, Sorc, Ranger, Bard, etc.

I do allow a Rogue spec but daggers and shortswords only, and STR=10 max.

Well according to standard real world physics. Clerics, wizards, and sorcs wouldn't exist. And you'd need something louder than a lute to inflict damage. Unless you're just terrible at playing it. So, should probably drop those classes

EDIT: Point is, if you're trying to intentionally handicap your party just to fulfill a real life fantasy. Go all the way through! Stick with only rogues, rangers, and monks (don't need strength for em, I think dex is their bonus)

[jonnin]

its easy to solo to withers if you can open that lock. Slip up to the trap door and open it, remove all items from the skeletons before you hit the button. Then pop the button, sneak inside the withers tomb, and let the skeletons come to you at the door, face them with a blunt weapon to do 2x damage. May have to use a potion if they get lucky but the warrior does only 1 damage even on a crit when disarmed ahead of the fight, and the casters can't get LOS without getting in range of your mace, a 1-hit kill. Torches are absolutely deadly here as a weapon and I think you can dual wield them.

you should be level 2 when you arrive on the beach, because you used barrelmancy to kill the mindflayer and possibly the boss demon which is enough xp for level 2.

Which hirelings you spec and how is irrelevant.
monks are deadly in this game but str is better because one of the feats makes it hit harder and more often. So at least one monk, and a damage caster, and maybe a druid would fit your needs. Quarterstaff is a 1h or 2h weapon as you like. Humans and half elves can all use leather and shield and but their racial weapons are almost all 2h so you will have nothing much there. Quarterstaves are deadly (lots of extra elemental damage and free spells). Dual wield Qs is nasty too. Personally I feel you are missing out on one of those big chested dwarf women, but to each their own.

[Iron Reaper]

A wisdom transmutation wizard (with lore bard for enhance ability) for double potion making, a charisma merchant (lore bard with persuasion) for selling things, and a dexterity pickpocket(rogue thief) for stealing goodies. Fits all your requirements and super useful

[Riitoken]

Originally posted by Adam__86:

You mean the incel playthrough

Nah.

Incels (as I understand the term) are much more likely to love the strong females like Amazons, Valkyries, Karlach, Githyanki, etc. The incels are the target market behind all the ads for video games with underwear models fighting orcs 3x their size and slamming them across the room. This is the Lara Croft crowd, and they typically play a female character for eye-candy. They are more interested in the females they SEE, rather than the male they'd like to BE.

Don't get me wrong, normal, typical men like to SEE attractive females (I certainly do). But in an RPG, the men I know (not incels) play their own gender.

If an incel were to post a screenshot of their ideal, you'd see a diminutive male figure (human, elf, halfling, gnome) surrounded by 3 larger stronger sexy melee fighters like Xena or Wonder woman, etc.

My SS reflects what is IRL normal about larger taller stronger males and smaller shorter weaker females. Cute females in small packages are sexy as hell. I can appreciate Xena, she's not ugly, but she's not my type.

Here is the classic modern pop-culture incel moment:

"I'm gonna need an unlimited supply of Xena tapes and hot pockets."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ePBNGmxVK8

[Frog Soup]

Hilarious troll thread

[AsianGirlLover]

What drives someone to post this sort of thing? Surely this must be satire.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

What drives someone to post this sort of thing? Surely this must be satire.

Good question. Not to mention that technically aren't all the hirelings either male or non-binary? Due to kinda being dead puppets raised by Withers. And they have his voice if memory serves right

[Banelord]

Takes some dedication, I must admit.

For both sides!

Hopefully both sides are paid adequately.

[Iron Reaper]

Originally posted by The_Dipl0mat:

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

What drives someone to post this sort of thing? Surely this must be satire.

Good question. Not to mention that technically aren't all the hirelings either male or non-binary? Due to kinda being dead puppets raised by Withers. And they have his voice if memory serves right

They’re are some trans ones but most are not, withers just gives them a voice