Custom Character vs Origin Character

[Traltwin]

I'm playing 'The Dark Urge' ... and my bf's playing a 100% custom character.

We're 8 hours in and it just feels like "I" am getting all the cool extra stuff and he's being rail-roaded by the NPC's towards plot points... it doesn't feel fun.

Is there any way around this? Any way to make a custom character feel better?

[smeh_cool]

Short answer - no. Story wise your Dark Urge character will be in spotlight much more than your bf`s. Additionally, it depends how you make decisions regarding side characters.

What you could try is to make his character talk more with other NPCs. This way he will make more decisions regarding general plot and your character will get cool Dark Urge stuff. You seem to be pretty early into the game tho (8 hours for bg3 is like 6%), so I would not worry about just yet.

There is also an option to restart as both custom/origin characters, if additional spotlight on Dark Urge is a too big of a problem.

[twerk]

I mostly play sark urge, but I am playing one custom character for the Jack of all trades, and she's pretty fun. Get a party you like. Have your custom character be a bard and/or a race like drow or tiefling to get a lot of speech options. Multiclassing also gives more speech options. That might make things better

[Traltwin]

Originally posted by Soy un perdedor:

I mostly play sark urge, but I am playing one custom character for the Jack of all trades, and she's pretty fun. Get a party you like. Have your custom character be a bard and/or a race like drow or tiefling to get a lot of speech options. Multiclassing also gives more speech options. That might make things better

It's moreso of ... I'll get whispers to interact with a body... or get a personal cutscene with an npc... so he feels like a tag-along. (We really don't want a repeat of me playing Fane in DOS2... :-\ )

Also the combat is either .... REALLY easy or super difficult... which isn't helping... feels like an uphill climb constantly.

[Traltwin]

Originally posted by smeh_cool:

Short answer - no. Story wise your Dark Urge character will be in spotlight much more than your bf`s. Additionally, it depends how you make decisions regarding side characters.

What you could try is to make his character talk more with other NPCs. This way he will make more decisions regarding general plot and your character will get cool Dark Urge stuff. You seem to be pretty early into the game tho (8 hours for bg3 is like 6%), so I would not worry about just yet.

There is also an option to restart as both custom/origin characters, if additional spotlight on Dark Urge is a too big of a problem.

Yeah ... we've already restarted once due to spells feeling underpowered/nowhere near what you'd expect from a 5E spell that you've used in Pen&Paper version of the game... and paying 100 gold every time we bump into a slew of spells or abilities that aren't working quite right is discouraging.

[smeh_cool]

You actually brought up good analogy, Dark Urge in bg3 is Fane from DOS2.

Custom origin character... same in both games. Allows to romance companions and more freedom regarding role play.

[Traltwin]

Originally posted by smeh_cool:

You actually brought up good analogy, Dark Urge in bg3 is Fane from DOS2.

Custom origin character... same in both games. Allows to romance companions and more freedom regarding role play.

Oh no XD...... Ugh ... We had no idea how pivotal he was going to end up being in how much of the pie he'd gotten his bone-y hands into ... :-\

Although I think if ... he ends up liking Any of the Origin characters... we could just Respec them and he could build them however he'd like ... right?


Also I was ... hiding the cutscenes from him for more of a "WTF JUST HAPPENED?" moments ... cause I know the "Durge" I hear people call the Dark Urge... Just hoping this gets better...

[KingOfFriedChicken]

The main appeal of custom characters is you aren't railroaded specifically by your characters plot. You get to have a more open and free experience with choices and plot, choosing a companion and sticking with them also helps a lot guide how your character acts as well.

Because if the goal is romance then you have to choose stuff they would wanna hear for approval. Plus you can alter the outcome of their story with choices, guide them to the side you choose.

[Traltwin]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

The main appeal of custom characters is you aren't railroaded specifically by your characters plot. You get to have a more open and free experience with choices and plot, choosing a companion and sticking with them also helps a lot guide how your character acts as well.

Because if the goal is romance then you have to choose stuff they would wanna hear for approval. Plus you can alter the outcome of their story with choices, guide them to the side you choose.

Yeah ... I'm hoping to find a good middle-ground with the stuff... He was trying to be the 'face of the party' ... he's Sorcerer and I'm going 2 Warlock/10 Sorcerer ... so we're both Charisma Based... Wondering if we're setting ourselves up for a rough time with the party composition (Have the cleric and fighter in the group too) ... cause we bumped into the Owlbear cave and ... kind of didn't want to mess with it cause 90 HP and it does like 15-20 HP in one hit... kinda gross.... makes us want to come back at like level 5 or some-such.

[old.school]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

I'm playing 'The Dark Urge' ... and my bf's playing a 100% custom character.

We're 8 hours in and it just feels like "I" am getting all the cool extra stuff and he's being rail-roaded by the NPC's towards plot points... it doesn't feel fun.

Is there any way around this? Any way to make a custom character feel better?

Here is the way i see it

custom character = you play your character the way you want to

origin character = you play their character the way you want to

dark urge = you play their character their way

EDIT: i dont think it would really be a dark urge playthrough if you arent really picking dark urge dialogue/action choices. Origin character is just like playing any character like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider, Solid Snake in Metal Gear, Nora/Nate in Fallout 4 and doing your own thing and not necessarily what you think the character would do in a given situation. Custom character is more like a Skyrim/Oblivion character where its a blank slate and you go do your own thing.

Think of Dark Urge and Origin characters as a chance to be able to replay the game again as those characters. If you're playing a custom character now yes you might be missing out on stuff. But just play as the origin or dark urge (as a different class or group comp) to see what it was you missed out on.

[Alt]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

Yeah ... we've already restarted once due to spells feeling underpowered/nowhere near what you'd expect from a 5E spell that you've used in Pen&Paper version of the game... and paying 100 gold every time we bump into a slew of spells or abilities that aren't working quite right is discouraging.

This is really surprising. Spellcasters in this game are very powerful. Unless they give out some hard nerfs in the last 2 months sorcerer and warlock can do insane damage. WIzard not so far from sorcerer, but with more versatility. Cleric has some very powerful spells, tempest domain has insane synergy with lightning. War domain has early access to 2 of the most powerful cleric spells together with ability to additional melee attack after spell use.

[Alt]

Originally posted by old.school:

EDIT: i dont think it would really be a dark urge playthrough if you arent really picking dark urge dialogue/action choices. Origin character is just like playing any character like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider, Solid Snake in Metal Gear, Nora/Nate in Fallout 4 and doing your own thing and not necessarily what you think the character would do in a given situation. Custom character is more like a Skyrim/Oblivion character where its a blank slate and you go do your own thing.

IMO. Dark Urge playthrough is the best when you resist your urges. It heavily ties to the main story and romances feel better with it too. It is clearly was intended for Durge to be a main protagonist origin of BG 3 story. Looking at old EA game files. Custom playthrough is inferior in every regard to Durge, the only reason you would want to play custom is when you dont want to have a baggage like that behind your main character, complete clean slate so to speak.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

Originally posted by smeh_cool:

Short answer - no. Story wise your Dark Urge character will be in spotlight much more than your bf`s. Additionally, it depends how you make decisions regarding side characters.

What you could try is to make his character talk more with other NPCs. This way he will make more decisions regarding general plot and your character will get cool Dark Urge stuff. You seem to be pretty early into the game tho (8 hours for bg3 is like 6%), so I would not worry about just yet.

There is also an option to restart as both custom/origin characters, if additional spotlight on Dark Urge is a too big of a problem.

Yeah ... we've already restarted once due to spells feeling underpowered/nowhere near what you'd expect from a 5E spell that you've used in Pen&Paper version of the game... and paying 100 gold every time we bump into a slew of spells or abilities that aren't working quite right is discouraging.

Fun fact, you can steal from withers no consequences, so you can respec for free and if you fail just try again till you get your money back haha. This may help on thay front with respecs

Spell casting is solid but it depends on how you use it overall, combo casting or setting up for that is fantastic, create water with an ice or lightning user for example, greese spell with fire... etc

[HoneyDrake]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

The main appeal of custom characters is you aren't railroaded specifically by your characters plot. You get to have a more open and free experience with choices and plot, choosing a companion and sticking with them also helps a lot guide how your character acts as well.

Not only do custom characters have LESS options regarding plots, conversations and co, you will now miss out on additional quest lines and perspectives you only get if you make certain characters your main.

The only reason to play an premade character is being allowed to set it up as you like from the beginning, but resetting classes costs 100 gold and can be done really early on in your run.
And all you are left is your personal character design which is not even decent.

[HoneyDrake]

Originally posted by Traltwin:

Yeah ... we've already restarted once due to spells feeling underpowered/nowhere near what you'd expect from a 5E spell

Considering how much you played? Yes, that's how spells should feel like: being underpowered early on because of limited resources but one of the strongest tools late game.

In BG3, with how short and long rests are spamable? Spellcasters are even more potent in comparison to 5e, so I have actually no clues what you mean here.

I am even doubting that melees can compete with spell casters early on in BG3, if you actually do long/short rest after each combat, considering there are barely any disadvantages to that kind of strategy.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by HoneyDrake:

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

The main appeal of custom characters is you aren't railroaded specifically by your characters plot. You get to have a more open and free experience with choices and plot, choosing a companion and sticking with them also helps a lot guide how your character acts as well.

Not only do custom characters have LESS options regarding plots, conversations and co, you will now miss out on additional quest lines and perspectives you only get if you make certain characters your main.

The only reason to play an premade character is being allowed to set it up as you like from the beginning, but resetting classes costs 100 gold and can be done really early on in your run.
And all you are left is your personal character design which is not even decent.

Respec is free if you steal it back from withers xD

I like to see how a character would play before I play em myself but past that it's pretty free choice when you control em.