Why Is There A Ring Of Shadowblade...

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

...but the spell isn't in any class list?

Like, Larian went through the trouble to create and model the spell, but just decided that they wouldn't give it to classes that can normally cast it and instead make it an item exclusive?

This makes zero sense as it's far from a game changing spell, but it is a staple of many illusionist and rogue builds.

What gives?

[Anima Mundi]

Maybe they wanted to limit it to short rest? but then that wouldn't limit use much.
Perhaps it's more the fact that it's a weapon with higher damage than a 2 handed weapon, with a damage type that's not often resisted, and then gives easy advantage too.
Idk it's not game breaking but it's definitely pretty powerful except for its cOnCeNtRaTiOn restriction

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Anima Mundi:

Maybe they wanted to limit it to short rest? but then that wouldn't limit use much.
Perhaps it's more the fact that it's a weapon with higher damage than a 2 handed weapon, with a damage type that's not often resisted, and then gives easy advantage too.
Idk it's not game breaking but it's definitely pretty powerful except for its cOnCeNtRaTiOn restriction

In context of all the other game breaking exploits in BG3, Shadowblade doesn't even register.

It's just a neat spell that lets illusionists do melee and arcane tricksters have a spell option for sneak attacks.

Furthermore, if it were that game breaking, then why go through the trouble of making it a ring? Why not leave it out altogether?

They should add it to the Sorcerer, Warlock and Wizard spell lists. Illusion magic is barebones enough as it is.

[Anima Mundi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Loveless:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Anima Mundi:

Maybe they wanted to limit it to short rest? but then that wouldn't limit use much.
Perhaps it's more the fact that it's a weapon with higher damage than a 2 handed weapon, with a damage type that's not often resisted, and then gives easy advantage too.
Idk it's not game breaking but it's definitely pretty powerful except for its cOnCeNtRaTiOn restriction

In context of all the other game breaking exploits in BG3, Shadowblade doesn't even register.

It's just a neat spell that lets illusionists do melee and arcane tricksters have a spell option for sneak attacks.

Yea i know it doesn't register with all other broken interactions, but this one on its own in a vaccum maybe stood out more for them lol.
And you and me both know this can easily be used in very broken ways.

I mean shadowblade even had thrown property. Is that also in BG3 ? i never used the ring

[Anima Mundi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Loveless:

Furthermore, if it were that game breaking, then why go through the trouble of making it a ring? Why not leave it out altogether?

eh, maybe because at that point in the game they were ok with that power creep, but not as a level 2 spell ??
Just guessing here

[kbiz]

I think it just speaks to the massive overlap in the game. I can't believe Larian is willing to let you kill a lv1 origin companion. But that's RPG.

[Many-Named]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Pan Darius Loveless:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Anima Mundi:

Maybe they wanted to limit it to short rest? but then that wouldn't limit use much.
Perhaps it's more the fact that it's a weapon with higher damage than a 2 handed weapon, with a damage type that's not often resisted, and then gives easy advantage too.
Idk it's not game breaking but it's definitely pretty powerful except for its cOnCeNtRaTiOn restriction

In context of all the other game breaking exploits in BG3, Shadowblade doesn't even register.

It's just a neat spell that lets illusionists do melee and arcane tricksters have a spell option for sneak attacks.

Furthermore, if it were that game breaking, then why go through the trouble of making it a ring? Why not leave it out altogether?

They should add it to the Sorcerer, Warlock and Wizard spell lists. Illusion magic is barebones enough as it is.

Also, single player, who cares if you break your own game