Doubt about Druids.

[Darkko]

If I equip my Druid character with a melee weapon, do I benefit from the weapon's statistics when transforming into a bear?

[gungadin22000]

Nah, the game was made in Belgium.

You don't have the right to bear arms.

[Humpenstilzchen]

No but the tavern brawler feat works great with wildshape.

[Darkko]

Originally posted by gungadin22000:

Nah, the game was made in Belgium.

You don't have the right to bear arms.

xD

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

No but the tavern brawler feat works great with wildshape.

Thank you, I will choose that feat then

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Darkko:

If I equip my Druid character with a melee weapon, do I benefit from the weapon's statistics when transforming into a bear?

No.

When wild shaping all your gear and equipment go away, as well as all your physical stats (strength, dexterity, constitution). Circle of the Moon druids are the ones who specialize in being an animal and get the most out of it, as well as the most powerful animal forms as you level up.

Circle of the Land druids are focused spell casters and will only really use their wildshape to get some extra health to survive a few more hits or to use an animals abilities to get out of a tough spot.

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

[Darkko]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Darkko:

If I equip my Druid character with a melee weapon, do I benefit from the weapon's statistics when transforming into a bear?

No.

When wild shaping all your gear and equipment go away, as well as all your physical stats (strength, dexterity, constitution). Circle of the Moon druids are the ones who specialize in being an animal and get the most out of it, as well as the most powerful animal forms as you level up.

Circle of the Land druids are focused spell casters and will only really use their wildshape to get some extra health to survive a few more hits or to use an animals abilities to get out of a tough spot.

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

Thank you for your response. So, if I become a Circle of the Moon druid, will the bear form use the strength stat or not? I've increased my strength by a couple of points, thinking it might.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by gungadin22000:

Nah, the game was made in Belgium.

You don't have the right to bear arms.

You sir are aweful.
I love it :P

[Humpenstilzchen]

Originally posted by Darkko:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

No.

When wild shaping all your gear and equipment go away, as well as all your physical stats (strength, dexterity, constitution). Circle of the Moon druids are the ones who specialize in being an animal and get the most out of it, as well as the most powerful animal forms as you level up.

Circle of the Land druids are focused spell casters and will only really use their wildshape to get some extra health to survive a few more hits or to use an animals abilities to get out of a tough spot.

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

Thank you for your response. So, if I become a Circle of the Moon druid, will the bear form use the strength stat or not? I've increased my strength by a couple of points, thinking it might.

This reddit thread might be interesting for you and answer some of your questions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/comments/15ikanj/list_of_feats_and_features_that_work_with/

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Darkko:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

No.

When wild shaping all your gear and equipment go away, as well as all your physical stats (strength, dexterity, constitution). Circle of the Moon druids are the ones who specialize in being an animal and get the most out of it, as well as the most powerful animal forms as you level up.

Circle of the Land druids are focused spell casters and will only really use their wildshape to get some extra health to survive a few more hits or to use an animals abilities to get out of a tough spot.

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

Thank you for your response. So, if I become a Circle of the Moon druid, will the bear form use the strength stat or not? I've increased my strength by a couple of points, thinking it might.

100%.

It will use the bear's strength. Your physical stats are replaced by the stats of the creature you are turning into. You keep your mental stats, your intelligence, your wisdom and your charisma.

Whereas if I were a wizard casting polymorph it would be roughly the same affect but the mental stats would change to the creature as well, in a tabletop RPG since polymorph doesn't seem to be in the game the way it is in the tabletop.

EDIT: This also happens to make Circle of the Moon druids very, VERY effective tanks and melee fighters because the animals health (goes up as you level up) is completely separate from YOUR health. Meaning if you have 40 HP, transform into a saber tooth tiger (you get this at level 8) it has 62 HP, which will get higher at levels 10 and 12. That 62 HP is completely separate from your 40 HP. Meaning you just give yourself a free 62 HP that you can lose before you start losing your health.

And since Circle of the Moon druids are the druids who can transform as a bonus action compared to Spores or Land who have to use an action, it means that at higher levels a Moon druid can be VERY hard to take down. Druids also get wild shape charges back after a short rest.

2ND EDIT: So if you are leveling up your strength, that does nothing for a Circle of the Moon druid. You may want to talk to Withers to respec to maximize your wisdom. You'll get more out of that than your strength because your strength will be replaced by whatever form you take.

You can prepare more spells based on your character level + your casting modifier. For druids that is wisdom.

[kbiz]

Originally posted by Powerword: Shill:

Originally posted by gungadin22000:

Nah, the game was made in Belgium.

You don't have the right to bear arms.

You sir are aweful.
I love it :P

I was wondering where da armour and da honour came from.

[TrailerTrash]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Darkko:

If I equip my Druid character with a melee weapon, do I benefit from the weapon's statistics when transforming into a bear?

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

so that what circle of spores druid are. i have played land and moon and just didn't understand spores enough to main them.. thank you. so there melee druids

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Dr4given:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Circle of the Spores are the druids who get the most out of weapons and armor because their melee attacks get more damage added on so long as they use their wildshape charges to get the extra temporary hp. Which means if you go Circle of Spores you will want Shillelagh as one of your cantrips.

so that what circle of spores druid are. i have played land and moon and just didn't understand spores enough to main them.. thank you. so there melee druids

Yes.

My first playthrough was a spores druid. They are melee druids. You'll want clubs or quarterstaves with shillelagh cantrip because it automatically becomes 1d8 in damage regardless if it's one handed (1d6 quarterstaff or club) or 2 handed, and uses your wisdom instead of your strength for attack and damage, so you can have 8 strength and be just as good as Laezel when it comes to accuracy, but you won't get the same number of attacks because you'll still have all your druid spells.

What makes spore druids stand out though is their ability (level 6) to create fungal zombies. They can go all Last of Us on the battlefield and create a zombie apocalypse without using a single spell slot.

[TrailerTrash]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Dr4given:

so that what circle of spores druid are. i have played land and moon and just didn't understand spores enough to main them.. thank you. so there melee druids

Yes.

My first playthrough was a spores druid. They are melee druids. You'll want clubs or quarterstaves with shillelagh cantrip because it automatically becomes 1d8 in damage regardless if it's one handed (1d6 quarterstaff or club) or 2 handed, and uses your wisdom instead of your strength for attack and damage, so you can have 8 strength and be just as good as Laezel when it comes to accuracy, but you won't get the same number of attacks because you'll still have all your druid spells.

What makes spore druids stand out though is their ability (level 6) to create fungal zombies. They can go all Last of Us on the battlefield and create a zombie apocalypse without using a single spell slot.

ok now i want to make a 3 druid and 1 cleric pt.. all 3 times of druids LOL

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Dr4given:

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Yes.

My first playthrough was a spores druid. They are melee druids. You'll want clubs or quarterstaves with shillelagh cantrip because it automatically becomes 1d8 in damage regardless if it's one handed (1d6 quarterstaff or club) or 2 handed, and uses your wisdom instead of your strength for attack and damage, so you can have 8 strength and be just as good as Laezel when it comes to accuracy, but you won't get the same number of attacks because you'll still have all your druid spells.

What makes spore druids stand out though is their ability (level 6) to create fungal zombies. They can go all Last of Us on the battlefield and create a zombie apocalypse without using a single spell slot.

ok now i want to make a 3 druid and 1 cleric pt.. all 3 times of druids LOL

lol.

During my first playthrough I traveled (in Act 3) with Jaheira as Circle of the Land, Halsin as Circle of the Moon and me as Circle of Spores.

It worked incredibly well.

[Darkko]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Darkko:

Thank you for your response. So, if I become a Circle of the Moon druid, will the bear form use the strength stat or not? I've increased my strength by a couple of points, thinking it might.

100%.

It will use the bear's strength. Your physical stats are replaced by the stats of the creature you are turning into. You keep your mental stats, your intelligence, your wisdom and your charisma.

Whereas if I were a wizard casting polymorph it would be roughly the same affect but the mental stats would change to the creature as well, in a tabletop RPG since polymorph doesn't seem to be in the game the way it is in the tabletop.

EDIT: This also happens to make Circle of the Moon druids very, VERY effective tanks and melee fighters because the animals health (goes up as you level up) is completely separate from YOUR health. Meaning if you have 40 HP, transform into a saber tooth tiger (you get this at level 8) it has 62 HP, which will get higher at levels 10 and 12. That 62 HP is completely separate from your 40 HP. Meaning you just give yourself a free 62 HP that you can lose before you start losing your health.

And since Circle of the Moon druids are the druids who can transform as a bonus action compared to Spores or Land who have to use an action, it means that at higher levels a Moon druid can be VERY hard to take down. Druids also get wild shape charges back after a short rest.

2ND EDIT: So if you are leveling up your strength, that does nothing for a Circle of the Moon druid. You may want to talk to Withers to respec to maximize your wisdom. You'll get more out of that than your strength because your strength will be replaced by whatever form you take.

You can prepare more spells based on your character level + your casting modifier. For druids that is wisdom.

Okay, okay, I get it now. Thank you so much for all the info! I'm going to remove those two points from strength and use them to increase wisdom then! I didn't think druids had so much depth, how cool :D

[Fendelphi]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Dr4given:

so that what circle of spores druid are. i have played land and moon and just didn't understand spores enough to main them.. thank you. so there melee druids

Yes.

My first playthrough was a spores druid. They are melee druids. You'll want clubs or quarterstaves with shillelagh cantrip because it automatically becomes 1d8 in damage regardless if it's one handed (1d6 quarterstaff or club) or 2 handed, and uses your wisdom instead of your strength for attack and damage, so you can have 8 strength and be just as good as Laezel when it comes to accuracy, but you won't get the same number of attacks because you'll still have all your druid spells.

What makes spore druids stand out though is their ability (level 6) to create fungal zombies. They can go all Last of Us on the battlefield and create a zombie apocalypse without using a single spell slot.

I dont fully agree on Circle of Spores being "melee focused".
To me, their main benefit is that they can use their "wildshape"-spore form(giving you various benefits) while still being able to cast your spells. Neither of the other two circles can do that while using their wildshape abilities.
Your cantrips will eventually outpace the damage you can do with a melee weapon(especially if you pick the right items), is safer to use(they are usually ranged) and offer overall more utility(like pulling or setting things on fire etc.).
Being "safer" usually means you take less damage, which means your Symbiotic Entity(special wildshape) last longer.

Dont get me wrong, it is not bad to use Shillelagh on a club or staff and get some decent value out of it from time to time. But I dont think it should be the "main thing" you are trying to do with the class.
When you feel the need to go into melee, you can also still use a Wildshape charge to turn into a beast. You still get those extra attacks(in beast mode) as you level up in Druid after all.


In short, Spore Druid is somewhere in the middle between Circle of the Land(spell focused) and Circle of the Moon(Wildshape focused), with some additional summons.