Minthara sigh...

[Drakken]

I did everything right, attacking her and then using non-lethal attacks to knock her out.
And she is not in the moonrise tower. :(

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Drakken:

Minthara sigh...
I did everything right, attacking her and then using non-lethal attacks to knock her out.
And she is not in the moonrise tower. :(

That is just one condition you met there with the description of yours.
What about the other four? You can check here again if you met all conditions
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3110543554

[Taifun_Vash]

She need to be temporary hostile, like when you attack a goblin in her sight of view, you can't make her your enemy.

[The Yeen Queen]

Was she flagged as "temporarily hostile" when you attacked her? Did you initiate hostilities while she was neutral or was she already hostile when you entered the room? That's a key thing there. Also, be mindful of the acid puddles from the vials the goblins in the room with her like to throw. If she is knocked out on one it WILL immediately kill her.

Oh, also, your last blow was a melee attack and not magic or a bow attack, right? Because magic and archery are NOT non-lethal. And no persistent damage spells active on her after she fell?

[Drakken]

I certainly did something wrong, but those conditions are kind of ridiculous; it should be a little more simple. The developers did a terrible job on that part. :(
Damn, you have to wait so much time to see that you have failed. I will rather give up with this "new" game and with the game for a long time too...

[Drakken]

Thanks for your answers anyway.

[Sonic Titan]

Originally posted by Drakken:

I did everything right

Originally posted by Drakken:

I certainly did something wrong.

In hindsight, retrospect is 20/20.

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by Drakken:

I certainly did something wrong, but those conditions are kind of ridiculous; it should be a little more simple. The developers did a terrible job on that part. :(
Damn, you have to wait so much time to see that you have failed. I will rather give up with this "new" game and with the game for a long time too...

Keep in mind this method of recruiting her was originally a bug and not intended by the devs. But the popularity of the bug made them to decide to make it a bit easier. You used to have to polymorph her then charm her to follow you to Moonrise after you first hit the waypoint there ( But BEFORE going into the throne room the first time ). Now you don't have to bother with that part. They even ADDED dialog to cover both Minthara and Halsin being in your camp.

My hope is that they smooth out the method in future patches and this was just a quick fix to make it an "official" method for now.

[Smask]

yer blame it on the dev, why not? I say FAULT 40.

[RhiTheWitch]

I think if they just added a little journal update the next day/after the next long rest like "Minthara was knocked out, but when we checked she was gone! Maybe we'll see her again" or something to know if you met those qualifications it would solve a lot of the frustration about this quest

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Drakken:

I certainly did something wrong, but those conditions are kind of ridiculous; it should be a little more simple. The developers did a terrible job on that part. :(
Damn, you have to wait so much time to see that you have failed. I will rather give up with this "new" game and with the game for a long time too...

Actually, if you time it right, you can check whether she is on Moonrise Tower in a handful of minutes after the celebration party. Then after checking you just load a savegame right after the party and proceed as normal.

[Taifun_Vash]

For that it would need to be a quest first.

[Drakken]

Originally posted by Night Foxx:

Originally posted by Drakken:

I certainly did something wrong, but those conditions are kind of ridiculous; it should be a little more simple. The developers did a terrible job on that part. :(
Damn, you have to wait so much time to see that you have failed. I will rather give up with this "new" game and with the game for a long time too...

Keep in mind this method of recruiting her was originally a bug and not intended by the devs. But the popularity of the bug made them to decide to make it a bit easier. You used to have to polymorph her then charm her to follow you to Moonrise after you first hit the waypoint there ( But BEFORE going into the throne room the first time ). Now you don't have to bother with that part. They even ADDED dialog to cover both Minthara and Halsin being in your camp.

My hope is that they smooth out the method in future patches and this was just a quick fix to make it an "official" method for now.

A quick fix is bad, this is waste fo time and so frustration, they should have done it more seriously.

[RhiTheWitch]

Originally posted by Taifun_Vash:

For that it would need to be a quest first.

There is a quest - taking out the goblin leaders? Wym

[The Yeen Queen]

Originally posted by RhiTheWitch:

I think if they just added a little journal update the next day/after the next long rest like "Minthara was knocked out, but when we checked she was gone! Maybe we'll see her again" or something to know if you met those qualifications it would solve a lot of the frustration about this quest

I'd also like to see them address having to knock her out again if you long rest before taking out the other two leaders. Or maybe flag her to always be "temporarily hostile" even when the camp has been aggroed. Or some other way to make knocking her out after aggroing the camp still work. Maybe also give some "in character" prompting for why you should knock her out instead of kill her? A narrator snipped like "You sense Minthara's conviction wavering, but it is quickly suppressed by the force that seeks to control you. There may be hope for this one if you can free her from the Absolute's control!"

[Crimsomrider]

I'm sure Larian will improve this vastly and make it more straightforward with future updates, but for now unfortunately you have to do it in a certain way;

• Steal the map infront of her
  
• Knock her out non-lethally while she is Temporarily Hostile
  
• Immediately after go kill Priestess Gut and Ragzlin

After doing these 3 simple steps you can then continue to play however you want.

Also you can easily check if you did it right by simply;

• Taking an invisibility potion
  
• Going to the Creche 1.5 ACT
  
• Sneaking past the Lich Shepherds with the potion to get to ACT 2
  
• Take the Moonlantern from Kar'niss
  
• And then just go straight to Moonrise

Takes like 3 minutes to check if she's there.