Any lifehacks for honor mode speedrun?

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

I already beat game in normal. So i just want achivement. Any lifehacks for easy beating game? I know only about fast ending for Gale, thats all. But i have problems with gnolls in act1 - they crazy overpowered. Maybe you guys know some stuff, like secret items or builds for crazy damage?

[hermit0wl]

Act 2 Gale ending doesn't work for the achievement afaik

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Get to Ethel fast, refresh shops with "level ups" from withers refresh steal money back from him, bring your characters to her shop buy 3 potions level up once buy 3 more repeat till you have all the Elixers you need to last forever enjoy perma 21 str rofl
I assume this works in honor mode like it does everywhere do this till lvl 6 and the dwarf lady in mycnoid colony will sell cloud giant toes, then you can make 27str exliers wooooo (again if this works in honor mode)

[LeFrench]

you need a rogue in your party and be personally alright with stealing from the vendors. (justify it as punishment for them ripping you off when you sell them items).

Stealing arrows, scrolls and potions is a very easy DC, especially at lvl 3 when shadowheart can enhance the rogues dex checks with enhance abilities.

anyway, when you liberally use consumables (which refresh in most stores for almost no reason at all, constantly) all fights are a complete stomp. nothing can even slightly hinder you.

Larian really need to introduce a difficulty mod that fixes the abundance issue, and sticks EVEN closer to 5e rules (than the small steps that honour mode took). Their homebrew rules make everything absurdly easy, and honour mode does not really change that significantly.

[LeFrench]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Get to Ethel fast, refresh shops with "level ups" from withers refresh steal money back from him, bring your characters to her shop buy 3 potions level up once buy 3 more repeat till you have all the Elixers you need to last forever enjoy perma 21 str rofl
I assume this works in honor mode like it does everywhere do this till lvl 6 and the dwarf lady in mycnoid colony will sell cloud giant toes, then you can make 27str exliers wooooo (again if this works in honor mode)

i can confirm the ethel perpetual restock thing works in honour mode. this means it will likely also work for the dwarf lady in the myconid colony.

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Originally posted by hermit0wl:

Act 2 Gale ending doesn't work for the achievement afaik

Really? But its ending if you play Gale. How its not work

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Get to Ethel fast, refresh shops with "level ups" from withers refresh steal money back from him, bring your characters to her shop buy 3 potions level up once buy 3 more repeat till you have all the Elixers you need to last forever enjoy perma 21 str rofl
I assume this works in honor mode like it does everywhere do this till lvl 6 and the dwarf lady in mycnoid colony will sell cloud giant toes, then you can make 27str exliers wooooo (again if this works in honor mode)

Its hard to steal? i just scare to fail and make all npc enemies

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Originally posted by LeFrench:

you need a rogue in your party and be personally alright with stealing from the vendors. (justify it as punishment for them ripping you off when you sell them items).

Stealing arrows, scrolls and potions is a very easy DC, especially at lvl 3 when shadowheart can enhance the rogues dex checks with enhance abilities.

anyway, when you liberally use consumables (which refresh in most stores for almost no reason at all, constantly) all fights are a complete stomp. nothing can even slightly hinder you.

Larian really need to introduce a difficulty mod that fixes the abundance issue, and sticks EVEN closer to 5e rules (than the small steps that honour mode took). Their homebrew rules make everything absurdly easy, and honour mode does not really change that significantly.

Astarion is rogue? or i can respec him i guess if not. And so for good steal i need many dex?

[LeFrench]

Originally posted by Джордж Майкл:

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

Get to Ethel fast, refresh shops with "level ups" from withers refresh steal money back from him, bring your characters to her shop buy 3 potions level up once buy 3 more repeat till you have all the Elixers you need to last forever enjoy perma 21 str rofl
I assume this works in honor mode like it does everywhere do this till lvl 6 and the dwarf lady in mycnoid colony will sell cloud giant toes, then you can make 27str exliers wooooo (again if this works in honor mode)

Its hard to steal? i just scare to fail and make all npc enemies

rogue (with at least dex 16 and expertise in sleight of hand)+ring of smuggler+gloves of power (you can get all these VERY early on), + shadowheart cast cats grace on rogue = rogue that can steal ALL consumables (arrows, scrolls, potions).

gloves of power i think is dropped by the withers crypt area. all i know is i ALWAYS find those gloves, by level 3. its definitely somewhere there.

ring of smuggler is found on a skeleton just across the river crossing (by scratch) to the right. skeleton is partially obscured by a bush.

oh, forgot the one last item. 'necklace of guidance' (i forget its name). you find this on the skeleton in the middle of the harper cache site. when your rogue already buffed by cats grace, then casts guidance on themselves.... ontop of all the other buffs listed above, you will never miss a theft roll on scrolls, potions or arrows. (unless you roll double 1s..... which does happen.... but extremely rarely, and in that case, just talk your way out of it, or pay the fine).

and being able to use powerful consumables liberally during all fights is instant win.

[Firecam]

16 dex, str elixirs on str characters (or str weapons modifiers) and that's probably enough.

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Originally posted by LeFrench:

Originally posted by Джордж Майкл:

Its hard to steal? i just scare to fail and make all npc enemies

rogue (with at least dex 16 and expertise in sleight of hand)+ring of smuggler+gloves of power (you can get all these VERY early on), + shadowheart cast cats grace on rogue = rogue that can steal ALL consumables (arrows, scrolls, potions).

gloves of power i think is dropped by the withers crypt area. all i know is i ALWAYS find those gloves, by level 3. its definitely somewhere there.

ring of smuggler is found on a skeleton just across the river crossing (by scratch) to the right. skeleton is partially obscured by a bush.

and being able to use powerful consumables liberally during all fights is instant win.

I had some purple ring for Gale when first meet his cat. That do something about dex check - recheck. Cat give me it for "fill" Gale hunger but i eated another item. Its good?

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Originally posted by LeFrench:

Originally posted by Джордж Майкл:

Its hard to steal? i just scare to fail and make all npc enemies

rogue (with at least dex 16 and expertise in sleight of hand)+ring of smuggler+gloves of power (you can get all these VERY early on), + shadowheart cast cats grace on rogue = rogue that can steal ALL consumables (arrows, scrolls, potions).

gloves of power i think is dropped by the withers crypt area. all i know is i ALWAYS find those gloves, by level 3. its definitely somewhere there.

ring of smuggler is found on a skeleton just across the river crossing (by scratch) to the right. skeleton is partially obscured by a bush.

and being able to use powerful consumables liberally during all fights is instant win.

Can i just steal in evey NPS in like druid camp? Or its nothing good? Only vendors have items?

[Iron Reaper]

One tip is to use hirelings for non combat utility.

1 - make a pickpocket rogue with a few levels in moon druid, put everything into dex and wisdom, and sneak, sleight of hand, and perception. Give him all the dexterity gear including the dex advantage gloves from the zhentarim. Now you have a pickpocket who can cast guidance and rob a merchant blind, and if it’s in a crowded place you can cast fog cloud to give yourself room to hide and make the merchant face away from you, and if you get caught you can wildshape into a cat or dire raven and sneak away. The raven can fly so you can reach anywhere and the cat can jump through cell door bars lol. Every time you long rest, go through all the merchants and steal all alchemy and magic arrows at guaranteed steals. Steal all the magic scrolls at nearly guaranteed

2 - Make a transmutation wizard with some levels in lore bard, stack everything into wisdom and medicine, and once you get enhance ability you now have guaranteed double alchemy output for all your potions and elixirs and thanks to hireling 1 you have nearly unlimited ingredients

3 - make a merchant using lore bard. Put everything into charisma and persuasion and give him the voice of the circle amulet from act 1. By act 3 you’ll be selling/buying at 250% default and maybe higher haven’t hit the cap yet

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Do you guys know some oneshot builds? I saw some on youtube with wizard i guess or that class what Wyll have. But i forgot where i saw it.

[WILLEM DRIPFOE]

Warlock

[LeFrench]

Originally posted by Джордж Майкл:

Originally posted by LeFrench:

rogue (with at least dex 16 and expertise in sleight of hand)+ring of smuggler+gloves of power (you can get all these VERY early on), + shadowheart cast cats grace on rogue = rogue that can steal ALL consumables (arrows, scrolls, potions).

gloves of power i think is dropped by the withers crypt area. all i know is i ALWAYS find those gloves, by level 3. its definitely somewhere there.

ring of smuggler is found on a skeleton just across the river crossing (by scratch) to the right. skeleton is partially obscured by a bush.

and being able to use powerful consumables liberally during all fights is instant win.

Can i just steal in evey NPS in like druid camp? Or its nothing good? Only vendors have items?

only worth stealing from vendors. wait until their back is turned with your buffed up rogue, go stealth, hit turn-based mode, and then rob them of all their scrolls, potions, arrows and ingredients.