How to use Disguise self effectively

[bSquid]

I want to know about your experience about this skill

[Lod101]

Only use It to talk to people I have killed.
Hmm why does this sentence sound so wrong?

[tailchaser]

For me it appeared very useful in gith creche, where some quests won't proceed further without githyanki in your team (at least if you don't want to fight your way through)

I didn't have Laezel in my team (missed her in act 1 somehow) so all necessary talk was done by Asrarion disguised as gith woman, and it helped

[KingOfFriedChicken]

It can be fun, swap to the person you are about to talk to can be helpful in some events.
If drow it can avoid a fight in the fire building, as a drow they think you are coming back to finish the job and attack you if you fail a check.
As gith it let's you partially at least avoid some combat.
If talking with dead it let's you question them as they no longer recognize you as the killer.
Using fanes makes is not a disuse self but a full transformation, allowing you to use small holes that are only an option for short stacks like halflings, this is useful mostly in act 1 but any place you find a smaller entrance.
In the under dark you can utilize female drow form against male drow, and in act 2 against the spider drow dude, as females are the rulers of that society.

I'm sure it has more stuff but off the top my head those are the places I have used it, I usually use fanes mask though as you can take it off and keep form.

[jmunkki]

I did the creche quests with a 100% Githyanki team. I did get a feeling that it made the experience pretty smooth, but I have only done it once, so I don't have any direct comparison.

I was watching an honour mode stream the other night and the goblins attacking the streamer's team had a buff that made them do more damage to enemies larger than themselves. The streamer could have use disguise on at least one companion to mitigate the damage.

Other uses include size reduction to allow the character to be thrown more easily and in order to pass through small openings and of course the use of items that have race-specific buffs.

Having to prepare the spell to use it on a wizard is a bit annoying in that you use it, then drop the spell and prepare another one. It would be nice if you could just cast spells like this unprepared (as long as you are not in combat) and the game UI would do the shuffling behind your back. I do a disguise after each long rest and after zone changes (it's for an equipped item). The "buffing up in the morning" stuff is not particularly engaging gameplay as it stands. For some spells, you have to leave them prepared or the buff drops, but not for disguise...

I appreciate that it doesn't use a spell slot, but some kind of indication on the spell tooltip would be nice too. It's almost like a cantrip, except that you have to prepare it, but since you pretty much always cast it out of combat, it might just as well be a cantrip?

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by jmunkki:

I did the creche quests with a 100% Githyanki team. I did get a feeling that it made the experience pretty smooth, but I have only done it once, so I don't have any direct comparison.

I was watching an honour mode stream the other night and the goblins attacking the streamer's team had a buff that made them do more damage to enemies larger than themselves. The streamer could have use disguise on at least one companion to mitigate the damage.

Other uses include size reduction to allow the character to be thrown more easily and in order to pass through small openings and of course the use of items that have race-specific buffs.

Having to prepare the spell to use it on a wizard is a bit annoying in that you use it, then drop the spell and prepare another one. It would be nice if you could just cast spells like this unprepared (as long as you are not in combat) and the game UI would do the shuffling behind your back. I do a disguise after each long rest and after zone changes (it's for an equipped item). The "buffing up in the morning" stuff is not particularly engaging gameplay as it stands. For some spells, you have to leave them prepared or the buff drops, but not for disguise...

I appreciate that it doesn't use a spell slot, but some kind of indication on the spell tooltip would be nice too. It's almost like a cantrip, except that you have to prepare it, but since you pretty much always cast it out of combat, it might just as well be a cantrip?

You might not have it but with the additional content you get fanes mask, equip it for a better version of disguise self, cast it then remove the mask, less tedious then going thru the spell stuff if you ask me.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by bSquid:

How to use Disguise self effectively
I want to know about your experience about this skill

It works awesome for roleplaying.

My were-orc elf ranger is fun to play through and through.

[victorvnv]

Easy. Kill the strange ox, get his ring. Now every time you use the spell you get 1d4 to all checks so every time you try to pickpocket or unlock a door or even do persuasion attempt you get a nice boost while disguised

[Taifun_Vash]

Mostly use it to fit through small passages.

[jmunkki]

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

You might not have it but with the additional content you get fanes mask, equip it for a better version of disguise self, cast it then remove the mask, less tedious then going thru the spell stuff if you ask me.

You have to buy the deluxe edition to obtain the mask as far as I know.

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Originally posted by Lod101:

Only use It to talk to people I have killed.
Hmm why does this sentence sound so wrong? :um_coffee:

Sounds like a feature to me lol

[jonnin]

Simply look at who you are about to talk to and convert to their race or one that they respect. For example goblins respect the drow, and to some extent, dark dwarf, while druids might prefer a human or half elf and dark dwarves will prefer one of their own. Gith should talk to gith.

Using it this way can get you past some BS if they didn't like your race, for example the goblin city guards may insist you smear crap on yourself as a human but would never even dream of trying that with drow.

Its partly broken as well -- changing your look does not change that everyone knows who you are in some ways.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Originally posted by jmunkki:

Originally posted by KingOfFriedChicken:

You might not have it but with the additional content you get fanes mask, equip it for a better version of disguise self, cast it then remove the mask, less tedious then going thru the spell stuff if you ask me.

You have to buy the deluxe edition to obtain the mask as far as I know.

Yes unless you pre purchased it then you hust have it, I was just letting them know, in case they had it. It's the only item worth a damn in that pack haha

Originally posted by jonnin:

Simply look at who you are about to talk to and convert to their race or one that they respect. For example goblins respect the drow, and to some extent, dark dwarf, while druids might prefer a human or half elf and dark dwarves will prefer one of their own. Gith should talk to gith.

Using it this way can get you past some BS if they didn't like your race, for example the goblin city guards may insist you smear crap on yourself as a human but would never even dream of trying that with drow.

Its partly broken as well -- changing your look does not change that everyone knows who you are in some ways.

I do think this is intended, people with a tadpol can connect to you... mostly, at least the ones aware of their tadpole and protected like you are, they connect with yours and see what you have done, so it's hard to hide that part of yourself.

[Octopuses]

It activates the bonus from Orin's armor.

[Firecam]

I use disguise self to gain benefits from the giths weapons psychic damage and the strange ox ring.