Question Regarding Evil Durge

[Fliqpy]

Should I wipe out the Grove and get laid by Minthara (so i can snap her neck) or should I help them in getting rid of the goblin problem and save Halsin?

[Firecam]

Do what you want ? If you are evil you know what to do.

[Fliqpy]

Originally posted by Firecam:

Do what you want ? If you are evil you know what to do.

Well I want my end goal to eventually take back control over the Cult of Bhaal. I'm probably gonna kill off my companions whenever I get the chance. So I guess destroying the Grove is a good idea? Although if I snap Minthara's neck her body will vanish so idk.

[Izlude]

Originally posted by cluxx:

Should I wipe out the Grove and get laid by Minthara (so i can snap her neck) or should I help them in getting rid of the goblin problem and save Halsin?

Get yourself somma that drow booty. Halsin is gross and weird anyway so he should be killed off regardless of player morals.

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Why not both?

Kill everything, let Bhaal sort them out.

[Wokelander]

It's a shame the game pretty much forces you to be friendly with the Grove first, it would be more interesting for Durge if you could approach act 1 from the Goblin angle without having to save the Grove from its own ineptitude first

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Khorvale:

It's a shame the game pretty much forces you to be friendly with the Grove first, it would be more interesting for Durge if you could approach act 1 from the Goblin angle without having to save the Grove from its own ineptitude first

This is why Minthara needs to be an Origin character, so you can start the game from her perspective.

[Wokelander]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Khorvale:

It's a shame the game pretty much forces you to be friendly with the Grove first, it would be more interesting for Durge if you could approach act 1 from the Goblin angle without having to save the Grove from its own ineptitude first

This is why Minthara needs to be an Origin character, so you can start the game from her perspective.

You never really explained how you imagine that working last I asked 😅

I'd settle for the Grove gate fight not being mandatory, playing as a jerk, I would love to have be able to go "eh, not my problem" and just continue past, I really don't get why this was a forced encounter

[lotherius]

Originally posted by Scott Valentine:

Originally posted by cluxx:

Should I wipe out the Grove and get laid by Minthara (so i can snap her neck) or should I help them in getting rid of the goblin problem and save Halsin?

Get yourself somma that drow booty. Halsin is gross and weird anyway so he should be killed off regardless of player morals.

Only problem is you miss out on Karlach if you do that. You can have both in Act 3 if you keep it in your pants for a minute.

[lotherius]

Originally posted by Khorvale:

It's a shame the game pretty much forces you to be friendly with the Grove first, it would be more interesting for Durge if you could approach act 1 from the Goblin angle without having to save the Grove from its own ineptitude first

I haven't saved them from anything. They're being nicey nice, but I'm not playing along. The only issue was the Goblin attack, but it seems those gobs weren't tadpoled or something so they didn't recognize Tav Authoritay.

[Wokelander]

Originally posted by lotherius:

Originally posted by Khorvale:

It's a shame the game pretty much forces you to be friendly with the Grove first, it would be more interesting for Durge if you could approach act 1 from the Goblin angle without having to save the Grove from its own ineptitude first

I haven't saved them from anything. They're being nicey nice, but I'm not playing along. The only issue was the Goblin attack, but it seems those gobs weren't tadpoled or something so they didn't recognize Tav Authoritay.

I mean the gate fight is forced, I think that counts as a save even if Zevlor can actually solo it from his position 😅

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Khorvale:

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

This is why Minthara needs to be an Origin character, so you can start the game from her perspective.

You never really explained how you imagine that working last I asked 😅

I'd settle for the Grove gate fight not being mandatory, playing as a jerk, I would love to have be able to go "eh, not my problem" and just continue past, I really don't get why this was a forced encounter

I just think it's a missed opportunity forcing the exact same starting position for every character.

They could have had a - slightly - different starting point for each origin. Not drastically different, although Minthara's would probably be the most different. Would have made for a more interesting early game.

[cl656]

I don't think OG Durge would take sides. I think he would find a way to kill them all as quickly and efficiently as possible. Once he found out the Druids didn't like the Tieflings and learned about the ritual and the Idol of Silvanus, he'd probably steal the idol, to exploit the Druid's hatred of Outsiders, to get them all to kill each other.

Then he would work his way to the Goblins, kill all the goblins at blighted village, but recruit and exploit the greed and bloodlust of the ogres, and use them along with your other companions to kill the Goblins and their leaders.

OG Durge was also someone who knew the value of allies and even friends. He would definitely not kill any of the companions, but at the end he would definitely pull a Griffith, and royally ♥♥♥♥ everyone over.

[victorvnv]

Being evil isn’t particularly rewarding , it’s more like an extra difficulty mode lol.

Unless they buff slayer form to how it it when Orin uses it, then there is nothing special you get from that route

[Wokelander]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Khorvale:

You never really explained how you imagine that working last I asked 😅

I'd settle for the Grove gate fight not being mandatory, playing as a jerk, I would love to have be able to go "eh, not my problem" and just continue past, I really don't get why this was a forced encounter

I just think it's a missed opportunity forcing the exact same starting position for every character.

They could have had a - slightly - different starting point for each origin. Not drastically different, although Minthara's would probably be the most different. Would have made for a more interesting early game.

I guess the issue with a Minthara path would be that you'd literally have zero reason to party up with any of the other NPCs but other than that, having a Minthara start where you're looking for the crash survivors and planning the Grove attack could have been really interesting.

[Fliqpy]

Originally posted by cl656:

I don't think OG Durge would take sides. I think he would find a way to kill them all as quickly and efficiently as possible. Once he found out the Druids didn't like the Tieflings and learned about the ritual and the Idol of Silvanus, he'd probably steal the idol, to exploit the Druid's hatred of Outsiders, to get them all to kill each other.

Then he would work his way to the Goblins, kill all the goblins at blighted village, but recruit and exploit the greed and bloodlust of the ogres, and use them along with your other companions to kill the Goblins and their leaders.

OG Durge was also someone who knew the value of allies and even friends. He would definitely not kill any of the companions, but at the end he would definitely pull a Griffith, and royally ♥♥♥♥ everyone over.

That's a really good answer. I'll try doing that. Thanks. Although I think you can do that without stealing the idol. Strangely they all don't seem to die.