Hounour mode "Stricter rules" specifics

[Vyvance80HD]

for the life of me, i cant find an answer to this anywhere, but the game is incredibly vauge about the "Stricter rules" in honour mode, specifically

"Action economy and damage bonus is made stricter towards the end of the game"

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? do you suddenly lose an action in act 3? do you get a -2 damage penalty as the game progresses? it gives ZERO indication as to what these actual "stricter rules" are.

if anyone has the answer PLEASE HELP ME, im on the verge of making a deal with Raphiel just to learn what "Stricter rules" are applied

[Maraxus]

One thing is haste only gives 1 extra attack so no more +2 extra attacks if you do 2 attacks per turns, etc.

[Dizzy Ladybug]

here and here[bg3.wiki]

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

One thing is haste only gives 1 extra attack so no more +2 extra attacks if you do 2 attacks per turns, etc.

Oh, that's awesome.

Basically, it means Larian is reverting some of their homebrew power creep.

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

here and here[bg3.wiki]

Neat!

[victorvnv]

Haste only gives 1 extra atack for maritals but still can cast twice as a caster.

Perilous strikes only affect allies

Mind sanctuary only hastes characters inside instead of making bonus actions into actions and vice versa.

Pact of the blade doesn’t stack with multi atack.

That’s about it and bosses can’t be knocked back into oblivion and be one shotted this way

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by Pan Darius Loveless:

Originally posted by Maraxus:

One thing is haste only gives 1 extra attack so no more +2 extra attacks if you do 2 attacks per turns, etc.

Oh, that's awesome.

Basically, it means Larian is reverting some of their homebrew power creep.

Yep and from that list you can't double or triple dip damage bonuses that I had no idea was possible before lol... that's how some folks were doing hundreds of damage...

[Sentient_Toaster]

*grumble grumble* Haste isn't meant to allow players to cast an additional spell...

*sigh*

There's, like, three specific aspects that the 5E DMG explicitly cautions DMs about screwing around with:

* Action economy
* Attunement
* Concentration

And BG3 mucks around with all of them. They mucked with concentration less than the others, but merely going prone isn't supposed to break concentration by itself. And indirectly they made it less of a limit, by letting everybody cast concentration spells from spell scrolls (outside of, say, rage).

[Vyvance80HD]

Originally posted by Maraxus:

One thing is haste only gives 1 extra attack so no more +2 extra attacks if you do 2 attacks per turns, etc.

i love you so much. thank you. i went to the far corners of the internet but they couldnt give me the information that you have, thank you

[Maraxus]

Originally posted by GazzaMATE29:

Originally posted by Maraxus:

One thing is haste only gives 1 extra attack so no more +2 extra attacks if you do 2 attacks per turns, etc.

i love you so much. thank you. i went to the far corners of the internet but they couldnt give me the information that you have, thank you

um... okay...

[Razorblade]

Originally posted by Sentient_Toaster:

*grumble grumble* Haste isn't meant to allow players to cast an additional spell...

*sigh*

There's, like, three specific aspects that the 5E DMG explicitly cautions DMs about screwing around with:

* Action economy
* Attunement
* Concentration

And BG3 mucks around with all of them. They mucked with concentration less than the others, but merely going prone isn't supposed to break concentration by itself. And indirectly they made it less of a limit, by letting everybody cast concentration spells from spell scrolls (outside of, say, rage).

As much as I like BG3, I hope Larian goes back to Divinity instead of making BG4. The D:OS games are impeccably balanced for their respective combat systems. In contrast, for BG3, Larian seems to have really missed the mark on why DnD is balanced the way it is.

I think some great lessons were learned that could be applied to the Divinity series in the future, but I am ready for Larian to go back to working on a rulset they fully understand and respect, instead of one they are frequently at odds with. It is simply not possible to make a balanced game when you're fighting the ruleset.

[Kafik]

Originally posted by dizzy ladybug:

here and here[bg3.wiki]

Thanks for the links!