Is honour mode actually hard?

[Nerviiouz]

Hi, I'm here to ask if people who are playing the honour mode find it hard enough to be worth playing. I have completed 2 playthroughs so far, the second one on tactician mode, and once I understood how the combat and stadistic system worked I found the game really easy, so I am wondering if this new mode could be hard enough so I play it again.

I remember that DoS2 was really really hard compared to bg3, and I really want the same experience that I had with DoS2, the need to look under every rock, completing every mission maxing the xp you can earn, trying to get as much gold as you can to buy everything from the stores that can help you in the hardest fights.

I got some mods to increase the difficulty, but I just find it kind of artificial because it only increases stadistics(I know DoS2 had huge problems about it too), anyway, I am looking for information about that :D

Pd: sry for my english

[LordNibbler]

"Of course not, it's as easy as the rest!"
"It's not hard enough!!!"
"I died 5 times already on the Nautiloid, it's way too hard -.-"

(just pick the answer that suits you best - you just know the opinions will be divided as for the normal game ;)

PS: "stadistic system" → I read that as "sadistic system" and was a tiny bit confused...

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Nerviiouz:

Is honour mode actually hard?
Hi, I'm here to ask if people who are playing the honour mode find it hard enough to be worth playing. I have completed 2 playthroughs so far, the second one on tactician mode, and once I understood how the combat and stadistic system worked I found the game really easy, so I am wondering if this new mode could be hard enough so I play it again.

I remember that DoS2 was really really hard compared to bg3, and I really want the same experience that I had with DoS2, the need to look under every rock, completing every mission maxing the xp you can earn, trying to get as much gold as you can to buy everything from the stores that can help you in the hardest fights.

I got some mods to increase the difficulty, but I just find it kind of artificial because it only increases stadistics(I know DoS2 had huge problems about it too), anyway, I am looking for information about that :D

Pd: sry for my english

That title made me laugh. Go and find out.

[Nerviiouz]

Originally posted by LordNibbler:

"Of course not, it's as easy as the rest!"
"It's not hard enough!!!"
"I died 5 times already on the Nautiloid, it's way too hard -.-"

(just pick the answer that suits you best - you just know the opinions will be divided as for the normal game ;)

PS: "stadistic system" → I read that as "sadistic system" and was a tiny bit confused...

Thanks for the answer! What I was trying to say is that the tactician mode which was supposed to be the hardest mode before honour mode was too easy for me. On the first playthrough I didn't know how to play, and for some reasons I went pretty straight forward, without exploring as much as I should have. I played it that first playthrough on normal mode, and was a lot harder than my second one on tactician mode, because then I understood everything about the combat system and statistics(xd), so I was really dissapointed, because I wanted to keep playing over and over, but the difficulty was low, once you know how to make a build, choosing correctly your party, stats, equipment, etc, the game feels very easy.

So, I wanted opinions specially of people who like me felt that the game on tactician mode is actually very easy if you know how to play it correctly, and then what those people feel about honour mode.

Anyway, thank you for the answer, and again sry for my english.

[hermit0wl]

I don't have an answer (just starting out Honour mode after only having played on Balanced, lol),
just wanted to say that your English is fine :)

[Zeel Ara]

It removes some of the cheesy tactics and obviously broken mechanics but still leaves plenty in place. If you felt comfortable on tactician you'll do fine on honour mode as long as you don't get too cocky.

What *does* make it hard is the single save. A string of bad rolls or a few bad decisions can kill you outright. That can happen even on tactician. But here there's no going back. So you either have to play flawlessly, have the mental stamina to restart several times, or plan around the unforeseen in every fight.

So yea, it's definitely hard. But like every game you can find ways to cheese it if you want to bypass the difficulty.

EDIT: And yea, your English is perfectly fine, no worries there :)

[Nerviiouz]

Originally posted by hermit0wl:

I don't have an answer (just starting out Honour mode after only having played on Balanced, lol),
just wanted to say that your English is fine :)

Thank you! :D

Originally posted by Ratley:

It removes some of the cheesy tactics and obviously broken mechanics but still leaves plenty in place. If you felt comfortable on tactician you'll do fine on honour mode as long as you don't get too cocky.

What *does* make it hard is the single save. A string of bad rolls or a few bad decisions can kill you outright. That can happen even on tactician. But here there's no going back. So you either have to play flawlessly, have the mental stamina to restart several times, or plan around the unforeseen in every fight.

So yea, it's definitely hard. But like every game you can find ways to cheese it if you want to bypass the difficulty.

EDIT: And yea, your English is perfectly fine, no worries there :)

Yeah, I guess dying at any moment resetting your game does encourage me. I'll try it out tomorrow. Thank you for your answer. See you!

[Maraxus]

I have cleared tactician twice before... so far on HM after wiping once on the brains at the beach I have cleared act 1 very carefully and over preparing for the harder battles without very significant troubles, a few regular battles have caught me off guard though. So far, resources are not scarce, 5k gold and 12 camping supplies, which I am thankful for, I don't wanna go around picking up every object in the world to sell xD (though I did plan my route to make sure my party was leveled up before a boss fight). I am not even multiclassing or using cheese so seems pretty doable by playing "normally". Of course... maybe a boss will surprise me and wipe the party yet...

What surprised me though is how much I like not being able to save scum ability checks and dialog choices... leading to entirely new scenes I hadn't seen before because I tend to reload until I get the "desired" result. lol

[Scorpiova]

It burrrned me that I had to leave the Ember longsword behind - the bugger would not drop it! Two tries only, no scumming allowed.

Now - I like the fact that it forced me to go on. I am enjoying honour mode. It is not harder - but your choices won't be undone. So you could experiment with how you played the game.

You could always try to a kill everything run on Honour Mode. For sure that would add challenge.

[BoogieMan]

If it is "hard" for you depends on you and your build.

It IS more difficult, objectively. Enemies have more HP and more abilities.

[hamster4]

Larian did specify they added legendary actions to some boss fights, those will be pleasantly surprising. Other than that, the single save file is definitely nerve-wracking on my part. And it is not limited to surviving the fights - a bad roll and I will not be able to negotiate my way out of some tricky situations, fail to keep an NPC alive and they stay dead. So there's also that.

[victorvnv]

Not hard if you are good.
But it’s definitely harder

You can’t knock back bosses and 1 shot them
Warlock pact of the blade doesn’t stack with extra attack so you can’t have 3 attacks with pact of the blade + say 5 levels paladin

Haste only gives + 1 extra hit instead of full action so figher lvl 11 with haste only does 3 attacks with action 1 then just 1 more hit with haste action

Bosses have extra abilities many of whom are reactions so they use them when you hit them/ cast spell so you can’t just slaughter them without them doing anything at all.

The fountain at act 2 right before the final boss fight only restores you once so if you use it and then waste your resources clearing the zone, you are screwed big time as you can’t go back or rest in that zone.

Still haven’t cleared act 3 but yea even if you take the one save limit it’s harder than Tactician

[Aria Athena]

I gave it a try out of curiosity. Can't say I noticed any difference from Tactician, but it has been quite a while since I played Act 1. I only played for a few of hours though and I don't plan on continuing.

[Trolleur_Durden]

Honour mod would be perfect if the game made an automatic save whenever one of your character dies. Otherwise, it's possible to cheese it.