Will difficulty be the same after failing Honour mode?

[Kenrald]

I saw that in Honour mode all bosses are reworked, added legendary actions, etc. Here's my question:

Will bosses have their legendary actions after failing honour mode?
Will we be able to save/load after failing honour mode like it's a normal difficulty?

Asking because me and my pals want to start a new campaign in Honour mode, but we're not determined to restart the campaign after losing a fight. We want to try though, as the majority of us are experienced in the game.

[ackadia]

Nope. If some party member 'die' they can be revived with a scroll or by Withers, but if all the party dies, the game save is deleted.

"Game over, man. Game over!"

So, no save-scumming, no do-over. If you mess up 100 hours in, you start again.
No pain, no gain.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

You can try https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/4743 to make tactician work like honor mode without the save limit or https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/4757 to allow saving in honor mode.

[Quacksalber]

I thought if you die in honor mode it switches to custom? I believe OP is wondering if the difficulty remains the same.

[Kenrald]

Originally posted by ackadia:

Nope. If some party member 'die' they can be revived with a scroll or by Withers, but if all the party dies, the game save is deleted.

"Game over, man. Game over!"

So, no save-scumming, no do-over. If you mess up 100 hours in, you start again.
No pain, no gain.

Didn't the community update say

"Should you so choose, you can continue your adventure, which will then disable Honour Mode"

Is it not working like that?

[Kenrald]

Originally posted by EH!:

I thought if you die in honor mode it switches to custom? I believe OP is wondering if the difficulty remains the same.

Yeah, we want to try to complete the game in Honour mode if possible, but we don't want to start over if we happen to die in the process. Just really love that all our scrolls will be put to use and we actually use every opportunity we have.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Kenrald:

Originally posted by EH!:

I thought if you die in honor mode it switches to custom? I believe OP is wondering if the difficulty remains the same.

Yeah, we want to try to complete the game in Honour mode if possible, but we don't want to start over if we happen to die in the process. Just really love that all our scrolls will be put to use and we actually use every opportunity we have.

My info comes only from reading the forum, but I believe it works as stated, but you cannot set custom mode to have legendary bosses, so my guess would be the difficulty drops.

Hopefully someone who knows first hand will respond so you know for sure.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Kenrald:

Originally posted by ackadia:

Nope. If some party member 'die' they can be revived with a scroll or by Withers, but if all the party dies, the game save is deleted.

"Game over, man. Game over!"

So, no save-scumming, no do-over. If you mess up 100 hours in, you start again.
No pain, no gain.

Didn't the community update say

"Should you so choose, you can continue your adventure, which will then disable Honour Mode"

Is it not working like that?

It is supposed to be like that. Which is awesome.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Kenrald:

Didn't the community update say

"Should you so choose, you can continue your adventure, which will then disable Honour Mode"

Is it not working like that?

It is supposed to be like that. Which is awesome.

But is it tactician difficulty or honor without single save file limits...ie for example will the bosses still have their additional legendary actions form honor mode?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

Originally posted by アンジェル:

It is supposed to be like that. Which is awesome.

But is it tactician difficulty or honor without single save file limits...ie for example will the bosses still have their additional legendary actions form honor mode?

They should not. Aka dropping the difficulty in general. I see that as incentive and reward and a better solution than having the savegame forcefully deleted. This way you can decide to continue your journey or just drop and restart as you would if the savegame gets deleted.

[Heu, Iterum Id Feci]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Dαятн Wαfflεmαncεя:

But is it tactician difficulty or honor without single save file limits...ie for example will the bosses still have their additional legendary actions form honor mode?

They should not. Aka dropping the difficulty in general. I see that as incentive and reward and a better solution than having the savegame forcefully deleted. This way you can decide to continue your journey or just drop and restart as you would if the savegame gets deleted.

Well, I think the higher difficulty should be a seperate option with a simple checkmark to enable ironmode for those that want it. That way people who want the enhanced difficulty without the savegame limit aren't dissuaded by the ironman claim in the difficulty description in the first place.

[Kenrald]

Figured it out. Just started a new game in Honour mode and lost the first battle with intellect devourers after the nautiloid crash. It said that you can delete the save, or cointinue in custom mode. I chose the latter and after loading the save I looked at this custom difficulty.

It said that the Ruleset is set to Honour mode, instead of the standard BG3, which includes all the changes and additions of honour mode. "Single save" is also enabled, and you can't change the ruleset or the save files options.

https://imgur.com/a/2H0toBq

And that answers my questions

Bosses will have their legendary actions, and you will have only one savefile.

[MacRile]

For others to see and mark as solved

Originally posted by Kenrald:

Figured it out. Just started a new game in Honour mode and lost the first battle with intellect devourers after the nautiloid crash. It said that you can delete the save, or cointinue in custom mode. I chose the latter and after loading the save I looked at this custom difficulty.

It said that the Ruleset is set to Honour mode, instead of the standard BG3, which includes all the changes and additions of honour mode. "Single save" is also enabled, and you can't change the ruleset or the save files options.

https://imgur.com/a/2H0toBq

And that answers my questions

Bosses will have their legendary actions, and you will have only one savefile.

[Lord Rak]

You can always backup your save every few minutes and you wont have to start over after you fail (die)

[Wither]

There is custom mode for the faint of heart.
Mine got 4 New game already. Bloody gnolls.

[Yggllen]

JFI: here the guy found out which file is responsible for honored mode saves
https://forum.psnprofiles.com/topic/154498-honour-mode-exploits-recover-from-full-party-wipe-play-with-custom-rules/
Short answer: C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\PlayerProfiles\Public\profile8.lsf
Just remove it, works with any save in honored mode