Wyll/Karlach kill cheese patch

[DarkElf]

Act 1 spoilers below

Is anyone as pissed off as me that in the new patch if you manage to recruit Karlach after killing her for Wyll's story

(Kill, and rez without being seen by her then long rest)

That they treat it like you didn't kill her and still have will get the punishment scene now.

If Mizora can double talk that Karlach was a valid target because she had no heart Wyll can claim he completed the mission and killed Karlach.

[cirugo]

Yeah bummed. I just did it and got the robe AND recruited Karlach AND kept Wyll human and after the patch he's back to being a devil. Got to keep the robe though but I don't think anyone else will be able to get the robe without actually killing Karlach going forward.

[banjo73.au]

Pissed? I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ livid - how dare they?

[RPGgirl]

Yeah, I just discovered that he has horns after loading my save. I'm definitely bummed after all the work I did to make sure he wouldn't get them (I went through the process twice because I messed it up the first time).

[Bethgael]

Especially given it's not (usually) Wyll who'd rez her, it's Tav (or other Origin character). Not his fault, circus or monkeys.

[1337_h4x0r_xXx_deathlord666_xXx]

I mean...if I were Mizora I'd simply still blame wyll for not making sure that Karlach stays dead...but mayb I'm just the better demon here...:P

[forumcrybaby]

I don't really like how Wyll looks with the horns. Can you keep both of them in your party without him changing?

[JStryker47]

Originally posted by cirugo:

Yeah bummed. I just did it and got the robe AND recruited Karlach AND kept Wyll human and after the patch he's back to being a devil. Got to keep the robe though but I don't think anyone else will be able to get the robe without actually killing Karlach going forward.

I had just recently saved two games shortly after doing this too. Then this patch dropped, and after loading one of those games, my very next camp scene showed Wyll, as a devil, confronting Karlach.

As if it wasn't bad enough, that letting Karlach go through ceremorphosis is seemingly the only way to let her live a happy life, while also sparing the life of the githyanki's rightful heir and increasing the odds of them overthrowing their corrupt evil tyrant ruler. I had really hoped I could do those things, while reuniting Ravengard with his still-human son.

What's the point in having your cake, if you can't eat it too?! If you're not going to let me eat it, then don't give it to me!

[blacknyellow962]

It's an unfortunate but understandable change. While one could argue we beat Mizora at her own game you could also argue that a devil would be a sore loser and/or have some clause in the contract preventing certain loopholes.

[jonnin]

if you think about it, the second any of your group dies, their tadpole should leave their body like it did the others. So, the cure is just kill & revive, and game over.

The problem you list is just scripting... games with scripted branches go down one of them regardless, or they crash, and this case the logic sees that she is alive & in party. Likely killing her didn't trigger the dialogue and so that state didn't register, so it does the best it can with the state the game is in. Could be better, list it as a bug...