[ACT 2 SPOILERS] The reason why you can't open the second Moonlantern...

[Orion Invictus]

This is pure speculation on my part, but I think the reason why you can't free the pixie from the second lantern is that it's not alive to begin with.

Think about it, all the pixies we see in Balthazar's room are dead. The circle works with dead pixies too. I think that lantern has a dead pixie inside, reanimated by Balthazar's dark ritual.

[Anima Mundi]

gale can grab one of those and create a shadow lantern. arguably better

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

gale can grab one of those and create a shadow lantern. arguably better

I know, that's not the point here.

[Quacksalber]

Possible, but what would be the point other than shutting it up? Is he trying to torture poor Karniss with the live one that yells non stop?

[Anima Mundi]

I thought it was just him reanimating the pixie too, like you said balthazar's ritual reanimated the other

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by EH!:

Possible, but what would be the point other than shutting it up? Is he trying to torture poor Karniss with the live one that yells non stop?

A living pixie can beg for mercy and exploit the kindness of the absolutists (what little they have due to being mind-controlled). It can also die and its power is gone. An undead pixie is eternal and doesn't blab.

As for Kar'niss, my guess is that due to his... instability, it'd be difficult to take away the pixie and replace it with a dead one. Also, the instrument at the base of the lantern was probably used to torture poor Dolly Dolly Dolly into silence.

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

I thought it was just him reanimating the pixie too, like you said balthazar's ritual reanimated the other

It is, yes, but I'm talking about the fully functioning lantern already present in Balthazar's room.

[Quacksalber]

I always assumed using the thing at the bottom would kill her. Have you tried it? Also, why does she shut up once we hit Act 3. if not released?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by EH!:

I always assumed using the thing at the bottom would kill her. Have you tried it? Also, why does she shut up once we hit Act 3. if not released?

It does kill her if you use it a few times (I think I had to use it twice for her to die).

Maybe she shuts up because she realizes that, like Kar'niss, you won't free her?

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by EH!:

I always assumed using the thing at the bottom would kill her. Have you tried it? Also, why does she shut up once we hit Act 3. if not released?

It does kill her if you use it a few times (I think I had to use it twice for her to die).

Maybe she shuts up because she realizes that, like Kar'niss, you won't free her?

Maybe, but that's kinda dumb of her, since we don't need her anymore in Act 3 I didn't realise it was her yelling in my first playthrough. I thought it was a Tiefling and spent a lot of time looking for them lmao.

[Anima Mundi]

I'm very curious now. I always just freed the pixie and be done with lantern. Gonna try to keep her around next

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

It does kill her if you use it a few times (I think I had to use it twice for her to die).

Maybe she shuts up because she realizes that, like Kar'niss, you won't free her?

Maybe, but that's kinda dumb of her, since we don't need her anymore in Act 3 I didn't realise it was her yelling in my first playthrough. I thought it was a Tiefling and spent a lot of time looking for them lmao.

Interesting. Could you still free her in Act 3, though? I have an evil playthrough I want to try this on, but it's a genocidal playthrough (last one before mods), so she DOES need to die at some point.

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

I'm very curious now. I always just freed the pixie and be done with lantern. Gonna try to keep her around next

Same.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by EH!:

Maybe, but that's kinda dumb of her, since we don't need her anymore in Act 3 I didn't realise it was her yelling in my first playthrough. I thought it was a Tiefling and spent a lot of time looking for them lmao.

Interesting. Could you still free her in Act 3, though? I have an evil playthrough I want to try this on, but it's a genocidal playthrough (last one before mods), so she DOES need to die at some point.

No. The entire option to talk to her was gone.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Interesting. Could you still free her in Act 3, though? I have an evil playthrough I want to try this on, but it's a genocidal playthrough (last one before mods), so she DOES need to die at some point.

No. The entire option to talk to her was gone.

NVM then. I'll do it when I install mods.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by EH!:

No. The entire option to talk to her was gone.

NVM then. I'll do it when I install mods.

One thing I wonder is, if you did not free her and take the lantern to the printing press, if something happens then. Probably not, but it would be cool.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

NVM then. I'll do it when I install mods.

One thing I wonder is, if you did not free her and take the lantern to the printing press, if something happens then. Probably not, but it would be cool.

Good question... can you try that? :P

[Quacksalber]

I found a save a bit before that, so I will check.

The moonlantern still has the "inspect moonlatern" feature listed, but it doesn't show up in the bar or in the spells, so I cannot use it.