Sazza

[YOU]

I have led Minthara and the goblins to the Druid Grove, then killed them. Previously I also let Sazza live while meeting with Minthara for the first time. Now, when I return to Goblin camp I am unable to find Sazza anywhere. Any hint?

[old.school]

Hmm...so you started on the evil path but at the last second went good? I did evil path and stayed evil until the end of the grove. Next time i saw Sazza was at Moonrise towers. I wonder if it will be the same for you?

[YOU]

Originally posted by old.school:

Hmm...so you started on the evil path but at the last second went good? I did evil path and stayed evil until the end of the grove. Next time i saw Sazza was at Moonrise towers. I wonder if it will be the same for you?

Not really an evil path, the fight against the goblins is easier that way. It was just a trickery.

[Toaster Maximus]

She should be at moonrise when you get their she is part of the goblin group that will have to deal with the brass on their own if I recall right

[YOU]

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

She should be at moonrise when you get their she is part of the goblin group that will have to deal with the brass on their own if I recall right

So she'd need not be saved from goblin camp in act 1?

[old.school]

Originally posted by Nomad:

Originally posted by Toaster Maximus:

She should be at moonrise when you get their she is part of the goblin group that will have to deal with the brass on their own if I recall right

So she'd need not be saved from goblin camp in act 1?

I think you have to take every opportunity you can to either save/help Sazza in order to see her at Moonrise. On my other playthrough where i was saving the grove without doing the "trick" you mentioned, i left Sazza in her cage at the grove and came back to it later and she was dead. When i got to Moonrise on that playthrough i didnt see Sazza just some other Goblins. On my evil playthrough i saved Sazza from the grove cage, saved her from Minthara and helped Minthara and the Goblins take the grove. I think i saw Sazza at my camp party but i definetly saw her at Moonrise again.

[YOU]

Originally posted by old.school:

Originally posted by Nomad:

So she'd need not be saved from goblin camp in act 1?

I think you have to take every opportunity you can to either save/help Sazza in order to see her at Moonrise. On my other playthrough where i was saving the grove without doing the "trick" you mentioned, i left Sazza in her cage at the grove and came back to it later and she was dead. When i got to Moonrise on that playthrough i didnt see Sazza just some other Goblins. On my evil playthrough i saved Sazza from the grove cage, saved her from Minthara and helped Minthara and the Goblins take the grove. I think i saw Sazza at my camp party but i definetly saw her at Moonrise again.

Ok will check if Sazza shows up in moonrise tower. Thanks.

[LazyTitan]

FYI it is also possible to get the achievement by knocking Sazza out when you fight Minathra and save the Druid Grove. I fought Minathra in the camp and used non-lethal damage on Sazza.

I had read online that she dies when the Goblin leaders are killed; but the cut scene in the Moonrise towers occurred with Sazza and I was able to spare her. Then the Achievement popped.

[YOU]

Originally posted by LazyTitan:

FYI it is also possible to get the achievement by knocking Sazza out when you fight Minathra and save the Druid Grove. I fought Minathra in the camp and used non-lethal damage on Sazza.

I had read online that she dies when the Goblin leaders are killed; but the cut scene in the Moonrise towers occurred with Sazza and I was able to spare her. Then the Achievement popped.

K thanks man

[nilfalasiel]

I read on the Wiki that if you kill Gut and Dror, but knock out Minthara, Sazza should survive. However, I did just that yesterday (post Hotfix 21), and I found Sazza's corpse near Gut's platform after having killed everyone else. I definitely don't remember killing her myself. So is this a bug? Did the game not register that I knocked Minthara out? I did have a long rest after doing so to trigger the first Guardian dream, and Minthara's body was gone afterwards (unlike every other corpse in the Camp), so maybe that's the issue? I have a save right before the knockout, so I guess I could do the long rest first and then try to knock her out and see if that changes anything re Sazza.

[Nah]

I ended up with "She can not be caged", saved her from emerals,goblins and moonrise in one run. I played seemy evil, i took Minthara as companion.

[EricHVela]

I managed a Sazza-uncaged event. Not quite certain how.

I escorted Saz to the camp. Quickly told Minth I'd help with the Grove right after she sent Saz to be put in another cage. (Karl wanted to have a talk, but I ignored her at that time.) Knocked out Saz before she left the area (which started temporarily hostile fight). Killed Minth and the other two. (Gut was taken out quietly before the Dror.) Helped Hals escape without getting into fights with the throne room area—getting pissed drunk on Invis potions. (Karl no longer wanted to have a talk.) Fast travelled to Grove environs. Did all that stuff and had a party (where Lae wanted to lay with Wyll and ended up very disappointed). Murdered the courtyard of the Goblin camp. Took the sneaky way into the temple. Snuck across the rafters to Gut's room.

Down in the throne area of the ruined temple, Sazza was up and about, but non-hostile (among the others who were hostile). I left all of them alone and proceeded.

Sazza was begging for the lives of the Goblins at Moonrise. I let her go. Received a letter from her needing another rescue during the epilogue.

(I got the same letter during my extinction run, too. Lots of weirdness in the lonely epilogue if you manage to kill everyone or get everyone killed.)