A little disappointed you can't sequence-break the Investigate Kagha quest by attacking the rats (minor spoilers)

[chefcook90]

Like, the Shadow Druids are in the room the very first time you meet Kagha - as the three rats hanging around her.

On a new playthrough, I tried picking one up and tossing it into the crevasse next to where Kagha is but 1) turns out players and objects can't be thrown into that specific pit, I guess to prevent you from instantly killing Kagha by shoving her in, and 2) damaging one of the rats DOES cause it to shift back into druid form since the rats only have 1 HP, but they'll immediately run away and Kagha will do her "THE OUTSIDER HAS BETRAYED US!" Spiel.

Still, was worth a try, right? xD

[Dank Man]

Don't meta game

[Hawke]

Not sure if there is enough XP, but could try to get them out with Dominate Beast first? Or to pick them up and carry out of view?

[Chezzzy]

ok

[chefcook90]

Originally posted by Hawke:

Not sure if there is enough XP, but could try to get them out with Dominate Beast first? Or to pick them up and carry out of view?

Yo, can you actually walk around while holding another NPC? I've never actually tried that before.

[XGear]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Like, the Shadow Druids are in the room the very first time you meet Kagha - as the three rats hanging around her.

On a new playthrough, I tried picking one up and tossing it into the crevasse next to where Kagha is but 1) turns out players and objects can't be thrown into that specific pit, I guess to prevent you from instantly killing Kagha by shoving her in, and 2) damaging one of the rats DOES cause it to shift back into druid form since the rats only have 1 HP, but they'll immediately run away and Kagha will do her "THE OUTSIDER HAS BETRAYED US!" Spiel.

Still, was worth a try, right? xD

When you enter a Druid sanctuary, any animal there can be a transformed Druid. It doesn't make any sense to go in there, pick up a mouse and throw it. Clearly you would be insulting the entire sanctuary and your death would be certain. Furthermore, the shadow druids would never reveal themselves putting the main plan at risk, it would be better to let everyone kill you for acting disrespectfully in the sanctuary, while keeping the plan hidden.

[Hawke]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Originally posted by Hawke:

Not sure if there is enough XP, but could try to get them out with Dominate Beast first? Or to pick them up and carry out of view?

Yo, can you actually walk around while holding another NPC? I've never actually tried that before.

Improvised melee and pointing far enough to be able to either teleport out through the map or at least to get out of view (hitting the NPC against the floor counts as attacking).

Might have been patched out, but I have done so during Gortash's coronation (under Greater Invisibility and the STR +2 armour set). Some other quests got stuck, but it was worth it.

[Chaosolous]

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Originally posted by Hawke:

Not sure if there is enough XP, but could try to get them out with Dominate Beast first? Or to pick them up and carry out of view?

Yo, can you actually walk around while holding another NPC? I've never actually tried that before.

Sort of. It's a bit janky though. You have to have enough strength to pick them up as an "Improvised Weapon" then click somewhere to slam them but right before you get to the spot Right Click (or whatever cancel on a controller is) and it should drop the NPC.

Clicking on the ground like you want to move somewhere while carrying an improvised weapon NPC causes your character to slam the NPC to the ground once they get there. That's why you right click to cancel right before you arrive.

The reason it's jank is because it really doesn't want you carrying them like this but you definitely can. I fixed a bug with the Githyanki Voss not going where he was supposed to for a quest. I just carried him there with slam cancels.

EDITS: Clarity.

[chefcook90]

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by chefcook90:

Yo, can you actually walk around while holding another NPC? I've never actually tried that before.

Sort of. It's a bit janky though. You have to have enough strength to pick them up as an "Improvised Weapon" then click somewhere to slam them but right before you get to the spot Right Click (or whatever cancel on a controller is) and it should drop the NPC. By clicking while you're carrying an NPC like this, when your character arrives at the location you clicked they will then slam the NPC to the ground. That's why you right click to cancel.

The reason it's jank is because it really doesn't want you carrying them like this but you definitely can. I fixed a bug with the Githyanki Voss not going where he was supposed to for a quest. I just carried him there with slam cancels.

Thanks - I'll try to have Karlach do it next chance I get :D