WTF... forced to transition to half-illithid at the start of Act 3

[d1xsmle]

After the big fight at the start of Act 3, the Emperor offered me the chance to transform to half-illithid, I refused. I then had to pass a 21 ( i.e. impossible) wisdom check in order not to do so Of course, I failed and got transformed against my will. I assume that this is a bug. Could anybody help?

[Dizzy Ladybug]

not likely a bug, the DC for that check is high if you used some or many tadpoles.

If you haven’t used any tadpoles, I think you can avoid the check completely. or is it the illithid dialogue checks ?

[Razorblade]

The DC is based on how many tadpoles you have used; it's your punishment for using being a tadpole-addict.

Moreover, DC 30 is what is generally considered "impossible" (by PHB standards); 21 is doable by rolling a 20, which is an instant success in BG3, or having at least a +1 modifier in Wisdom.

[FunkyMonkey]

Yeah, I think it's avoidable if you don't use any tadpoles. I haven't had to pass a check or anything since I don't put worms in my brain voluntarily.

Some might say, if it isn't the consequences of your actions...

But, if you are dead-set on not having to transform, reloading the check until you get a nat 20 will let you pass.

[Ironwu]

Cannot pass a 21 check? That's a hoot. Certainly NOT impossible. Just need the right gear and buffs. Or just save/restore if your team is not up to doing it legit. Wait until you hit the 30+ checks. Now there's a challenge!

So, not a bug or a glitch of any sort.

[Bubblelady]

Don't use tadpoles or pay the price for doing so.

Every tadpole usage (including illithid wisdom) you lose part of your soul, the game tells you it, Withers asks you about this very subject, after Moonrise Towers fight in Act II.

Tadpoles are not necessary, illithid powers aren't really that strong to justify becoming a psychopathic squid if your character ins't somewhat power hungry or "slightly" naive for believe in the Emperor.

[Kriss Hietala]

I trusted the emperor and he betrayed me.

[insolent1]

Iirc you can drop it on ground and stand on it, no check required.

[topetepeterson]

Passing a 21 DC isn't really even difficult. Much less impossible.

[Bubblelady]

Originally posted by Kriss Hietala:

I trusted the emperor and he betrayed me.

The Emperor is a stinker!

I never trusted him, my first time playing was with my husband, and right way I told him, I don't think you should consume these tadpoles :)... but in his defense, he never played table top RPG or have knowledge of Forgotten Realms lore.

[Remnant Melody]

All the replies that get so uppity and judgey on people using more tadpoles. Must be so boring never experimenting with that game mechanic out of fear. That DC check is the only thing that is a consequence of using more than the initial tadpole. Its rather tedious, but certainly passable. You can always grab a mod on Nexus that tones down/removes the half-illithid effect on your character if you don't like the creepy look. It is pretty atmospheric on evil runs.. but most of the player base refuses to have fun with evil and look wicked-metal while doing it, so they just judge form their holier-than-thou paladin perches and squawk at people having fun. Bunch of boring sods. :P

[Popsicles]

The squiddie had me fooled for a good portion of the first run. I was able to avoid transforming because I had only used a couple tad poles. I still had the ugly look going on. I love this game for the fact you have to live with your choices.

[LordNibbler]

Embrace the squid for MORE POWER!

No one cares how you look when you stomp them into the ground.

[Bubblelady]

Originally posted by SassyKitKats:

All the replies that get so uppity and judgey on people using more tadpoles. Must be so boring never experimenting with that game mechanic out of fear. That DC check is the only thing that is a consequence of using more than the initial tadpole. Its rather tedious, but certainly passable. You can always grab a mod on Nexus that tones down/removes the half-illithid effect on your character if you don't like the creepy look. It is pretty atmospheric on evil runs.. but most of the player base refuses to have fun with evil and look wicked-metal while doing it, so they just judge form their holier-than-thou paladin perches and squawk at people having fun. Bunch of boring sods. :P

Excuse me?
You play your character however you like, if your character wants to sell his soul for some little power, go for it, as long you have fun nobody give a dime. It won't change the fact that illithids are psychopathic two legged squids.

I play my character however I please, and encourage others to do the same. BG3 is a CRPG and its replayability depends very much on doing different things, and having different characters with different personalities. Fear the consequences? Mods? Idk what are you talking about.

There is nothing "uppity and judgey" in my comment, unlike yours though.

[Bubblelady]

Originally posted by LordNibbler:

Embrace the squid for MORE POWER!

No one cares how you look when you stomp them into the ground. :cozycrashfish:

As Wyll would say "That is the spirit" :) have fun!

[Bubblelady]

Originally posted by Tinball:

The squiddie had me fooled for a good portion of the first run. I was able to avoid transforming because I had only used a couple tad poles. I still had the ugly look going on. I love this game for the fact you have to live with your choices.

I wished I could squish the squid with Orpheu's guard, and have Orpheus giving me the quest to free him. :)