BG3 Is a Fake GOTY - This game do not deserve this title. (IMO)

[XGear]

Poor character customization, cannot modify body structures such as face, body, height, etc. There are no tattoos for the body, or variety of faces and hair. Players even use pirated MODS to try to reverse the lack of customization within the game, risking the integrity of the computer itself, simply due to the lack of good official customization not implemented by the game's developers. There are more variations of genitals than customization of the entire body in general in this game, with many duplicate NPCs with the same face. Some even have your character's face on them.

Little diversity of skills. Practically the magical classes use the same spells, making the type of magical class you choose irrelevant, as they all use the same spells.

Archer and hiding classes are buggy and poorly designed. You can shoot arrows and hide by freezing enemies, making the game uninteresting and with a "Chese" feeling playing with these classes.

Game genres chosen in character creation do not influence in-game interaction. All NPCs that interact with you don't care about your chosen gender and just see your character as a "Sex Doll"and they cannot identify whether the player wants homosexual or heterosexual interactions. The game can't even understand that you don't like sexual interactions with animal bears, making the NPCs become animals to interact with the player like a couple.

The game's AI is very poorly done, the group's characters are not able to follow or avoid traps, and there is no "Auto Play" option to let the machine play with companions and help with strategies like in renowned strategy games from past.

Cannot customize companion characters

Lots of bugs, feeling like the game was rushed and poorly taken care of by the development team. It looks like they didn't play their own game.

The game's original story makes no sense. It revolves around removing Tadpole from the brain, but there is no satisfactory endgame for those who wish to follow this path.

Your choices are irrelevant, leading you down a predetermined and defined path. False sense of RPG, where your choices do not affect the journey.

Poorly optimized game, demanding a lot from the GPU, CPU and memory at 1080P res, if you don't play with DLSS turned on. (Or Ryzen in case you have it).

Poorly designed control interface with few customizations. It is not even possible to lock the gamepad cursor while customizing the radial to attach the skills to the slots.

Terrible save system, the game is not capable of handling auto saves, creating hundreds of auto saves, causing the player to have to save manually.

Terrible exploration system, where characters cannot jump, pick up items or break boxes without invoking the Radial Menu. The Radial Menu should only be used in battles and not in exploration mode.

Weak and discouraging world exploration. The game has many loot items such as boxes, jars, etc., making opening them a "Boring" habit where you won't find anything useful. Just polluting the game world and delaying the player by looking for precious items in places that will never exist. The world is also very small and with just a few steps you can practically walk around the entire map.

Poorly designed and meaningless character stories. As in the case of Dark Urge, there are the biggest narrative holes. Several narrative holes can also be found during a casual game with a custom character (TaV).


And there are still many more things that if I continue, I will stay here until next year. HOW IS THIS GAME THE GAME OF THE YEAR? What parameter was used for this? As a veteran RPG player, saying this game is GOTY rated is insulting.

[Paganini]

Originally posted by Tenjen:

Originally posted by Babbles:

A finished game would be great, for starters ... BG3 is pretty undercooked, also stopping at level 12 is just crazy - especially when you still have half of Act 3 to go and no more level progression.

Can't understand how this issue escaped, or more probably didn't escape, the QA team.

You're bringing up long dead discussion points beyond the scope of the discussion. The game was initially planned to be level 9, then level 10. Then some of the devs got insisted on getting going all the way upto level 12 to reach Rank 6 spells, which is already HELLA ambitious.

That you're complaining about them stopping at level 12 shows you have a fundamental misunderstanding on how DnD works. You're thinking in conventional RPG leveling terms. The game is built to be as close to DnD 5e as possible with as minor adjustments as possible to be viable for the difference in mediums from table top to a video game. Things get crazy in DnD past level 12. The spells and powers you get are insane and the level of potential permutations they will have to account for (if they apply the same approach they did to the rest of the game) will involve development time easily as long as the whole game already took to make from WoTC approaching them to release. Hell many real table top campaigns generally stick with 8 to 12. Rare will one think of going to 20. Video Gaming mediums are not built for going past level 12 without either putting in an nonviable amount of dev time and resources or giving up on the game's entire efficacy and design integrity by making the spells arcady and restricted like a common fantasy game. The adherence to the 5e rule set is the foundation of what made this game so great in the first place. You don't damage that and expect the game to still succeed.

If you don't understand that fundamental DnD matter. You have no further say due to the sheer ignorance implied.

For me, RPG games could also come out where you don't level up at all. The whole leveling principle is so worn out that I can't even get excited about it anymore. I'm glad that it doesn't play a bigger role in BG3. I'm bothered by these sometimes completely exaggerated occupational therapies of constant looting and leveling. Then I might as well play endless hack-and-slash games if that's what I want, soooo... dont realy need this any more at all.

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

dunno if the initial statement is addressing me, since i said unquestionably Withers confirms the absence of illithid souls.
My scepticism is on the relevance level that a soul plays here.

So I understood it that Mind Flayers are usually under the control of Elder Brains, and then that could be completely correct.
However, the Emperor is not under the control of an Elder Brain.
Anyway, it's clearly designed to leave some lingering doubt.
It had to be that way, or else the entire role wouldn't have made any sense to include at all.
Whats the whole point.

[AUTI5T1X]

OP's incapable of forming a legible title and thinks they get to have any sort of opinion on the matter?

[Narky]

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Mind Flayers having no soul is literally not up to debate—as neither God nor Devil is capable of "collecting" on them. I do see the validity of the rest, because I'm very well aware that the Emperor is written to be reactionary toward the Players' interests; it can be explicitly argued that his emotions are not real at all, and he's in-fact only channelling what he remembers. Is he angry, or is he just displaying true colors and you're identifying it as anger? (which is only natural to someone that FEELS emotions).

The issue is with Contrarian posters who demand that their points are the absolute only way of seeing the game's story. And when a person like that comes in with a passive-aggressive tenure of going, "NO YOU'RE WRONG!!!", what else is that meant to communicate?

Karlach even mentions that as a result of the Tadpole, her sense of self and feelings are changing. The Player Character is hinted to by the narrator to be extremely (*potentially*, emphasis, not definitively) unique among Mind Flayers in that they may be able to retain more than just their memories — and this is following the caveat that 'you feel your sense of self ebbing away'.

Omeluum is, for me, like any Mind Flayer in the game, on the lines of trusting as far as you can throw them; you'd be right not to ever trust a Mind Flayer. To top it off, we actually don't get to see enough of him in the game outside of Act's 1 and 3.

Imo, given all that I know, I'm much more inclined to believe a Hyper-intelligent Mind Flayer (as it's inarguable that they're extremely intelligent, much more than the baseline human) is very capable of imitating emotion, and that they're of a spectrum that is entirely unlike ours (which is also sourced in Forgotten Realms lore) so if they could feel emotion, it's 100% something we'd never be able to experience.

dunno if the initial statement is addressing me, since i said unquestionably Withers confirms the absence of illithid souls.
My scepticism is on the relevance level that a soul plays here.

Either way you're probably familiar with dissociative disorders, specifically derealization disorder. I unfortunately am, and my initial question here is if in fact there exists an inability to experience emotion, or rather it's an inability to consciously interpret emotion and associate with them. An individual can still generate emotions and emotional responses, without the ability to consciously experience them as emotions.

Like mentioned earlier by someone The Emperor's logs seem to reflect a kind of
confrontation with his own self, as he goes through and recalls events of his life after the Illithid transformation.

It could be right that his visible "emotional" responses and reactions, could be simply those of a mimic, but you are choosing that specific interpretation, as gospel upon which to further other conclusions or supportive arguments, when on the other hand a simple dissociation between his conscious brain (cortex? idk illithid anatomy) and its deeper layer generator of emotions, is equally possible, if not more plausible.

Once again, i think his inner conflict is very apparent in the game lore. But either way this is all conjecture from all of us.

I find your lack of faith in Omellum rather disturbing. It is feels rather obvious to me he does not "feel" remorse in the practices of his race, and that this is simply the true nature of their biology. But he is intelligent enough to understand the suffering cause upon other species, and that the whole thing is subjectively "morally" wrong, to the point of well, becoming what he becomes and dedicating his life to the pursue of an alternative for Illithids survival, where they could coexist peacefully with other sentient life forms.
Your brushing off of his whole character is very unsatisfactory to me :(

I pretty much conveyed what I meant in that you're free to draw up your own conclusions, as i've come to my own - the divulging paths and conflicting information leave a lot to question because there's no actual definitive outside what the game is based on (the established lore). Again, IS the Emperor expressing real emotion or is he simply imitating it based on imprinted memories from Balduran because Mind Flayers are not biochemically capable of them?

Elaborate, "disturbing?" I hope you're not distributing a judgmental bias over someone else based on a video game character's (lack of, therein) context. Because you'll be left severely disappointed, as in all of Forgotten Realms Mind Flayers have always proven to be self-serving and if throwing you under the bus is the call by their extreme pragmatism in order to survive, They will do it. The Emperor sides with the Elder Brain if you choose Orpheus's path instead of his: proving that in context, you were no more than a tool for survival to him.

And there is a demonstrable lack of content involving Omeluum - you trust deeds, not words, and verbal expression of contempt for actions dealt is not enough in light of the overwhelming evils the Mind Flayers have - and are -willing to commit.

There's also lore that suggests the Emperor and Omeluum are possibly Ulitharid's, which by this meaning them getting their way is worse than you'd have thought - as the end game of Ulitharid's is to metamorphosis into Elder Brains (they're the only ones that can). I suggest reading up on Ulitharid's - the Emperor, in particular, has his outfit fashioned after one. It's even noted Ulitharid Tadpoles are a deviation from normal ones, are are psychologically different (more spiteful, manipulative, and intelligent).

A key physical trait of Ulitharid's is the eye color, and longer-than-ususl mouth tendrils (both Omeluum and the Emperor posses those qualities, the Emperor having both). Of course, he lacks the additional two, but this could simply be that not all Ulitharid's are the same.

And it makes much more sense knowing this in light of the fact he wants to get rid of the current Elder Brain - to start his own colony, and grooming you to embrace your illithid potential aids that. Again, tying directly into the fact that Mind Flayers - regardless of how noble they come across - all work toward the Grand Design in their own fashion. This is one of the possibilities and I think it's fair to say that a seasoned D&D player not chancing that is a good call.

[damo.black]

i love this game!,i voted for it on the golden joystick awards!

[Paganini]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

The Emperor sides with the Elder Brain if you choose Orpheus's path instead of his: proving that in context, you were no more than a tool for survival to him.

Interesting, I've never tried that. But does he have a choice? From what I understand, Orpheus is on a crusade against Mind Flayers. Let's replace Mind Flayers with humans. Would he be a bad person if the alternative were Orpheus wiping out all humans, including himself? I don't think so; every being is allowed to do anything to survive. Falls under natural law in my opinion. ^^

[Spartacus]

It's a broken game, it broke on mac, it broke on steamdeck, it is a pos

[Narky]

Originally posted by Paganini:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

The Emperor sides with the Elder Brain if you choose Orpheus's path instead of his: proving that in context, you were no more than a tool for survival to him.

Interesting, I've never tried that. But does he have a choice? From what I understand, Orpheus is on a crusade against Mind Flayers. Let's replace Mind Flayers with humans. Would he be a bad person if the alternative were Orpheus wiping out all humans, including himself? I don't think so; every being is allowed to do anything to survive. Falls under natural law in my opinion. ^^

I mean, from the get go his own survival has been his prerogative. What does rebuilding the Knights of the Shield serve a Mind Flayer (and possibly an Ulitharid) like The Emperor?

[Knightfell]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

It's a broken game, it broke on mac, it broke on steamdeck, it is a pos

I bolded your problem lol
as for steamdeck, it isn't broken, just doesn't have the storage to run properly

[/dev/random]

Originally posted by Spartacus:

It's a broken game, it broke on mac, it broke on steamdeck, it is a pos

bc mac and lineks bad.

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Vixzian:

You being blind to any other experience but this one is a skill issue. Ignorance is bliss I guess... or so they say.

I have 2288.6 hours invested in the game. I know every lore point there is to know. I know FR like the back of my hand and some points within the D&D game even more than that. Seems like you're the one that is missing something.

How about start with the emperor ending play through. Go line by line with the dialogue and see if you can come to yours being the only conclusion.

Here let me help you further since this might be a bit challenging. Pay attention to what Withers says as well during this scenario.

This forum is filled with people who seem to be experts without knowing the entirety of the subject matter.... and oft it's the usual suspects.

I'll wait.

No it isn't, I've literally uncovered most if not all routes, lol. You need to pack this elitist snobbery of yours in because every time we'd butt heads (more so you've thrown a tantrum), you've embarrassed youself. I literally could not care less how long you've played because you don't need to invest over 1k hours (that's not the kind of brag you think it is, it's actually kind of sad) to uncover all the lore., and I doubt any one with over 500 hours cares because that's the jist of how much you need to uncover all there is to the game.

Everything you post is argumentative and designed to challenge people because it's 99.9% of the time something that personally doesn't resonate with you (that's an ego problem of yours, not mine)—get over the fact you didn't understand what the word "manipulation" entails.

Here:

verb — manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

Lying is Manipulation. White lies are still Manipulative if their intent is to deceive (which "Balduran" confesses to). What The Emperor did was textbook manipulation. No doubt about it: literally no sane person would argue with it. There's LITERALLY no arguing with that objective fact. He outright uses magic to conceal his identity—he outright confesses you're a puppet. He drops the kind act once he realises he can't fool you.

He tries his hardest to convince you there "is no other way" to defeat the Elder Brain but it turns out, lo and behold, there is! (Orpheus being the other route). As soon as that happens, he turns tail and joins back with the Elder Brain because the only thing he cares about most is himself. And yes, before you bring up Orpheus being a puritanical extra-planar space Nazi who is Gith's only son (and only descendent), I know. The point was the Emperor was manipulating you for his own ends.

And no, the statement about ALL Mind Flayers working toward the Grand Design regardless of their apparent intentions is Forgotten Realms lore. Even the most well-meaning rogue Mind Flayer is still working toward it in their own way, even if they're unaware of it—almost as if it's ingrained in their subconscious. Mind Flayers cannot have souls, the soul is consumed 100% and multiple instances in the game confirm it (emotionlessness is connected to the lack of a soul in D&D's Forgotten Realms because the soul is treated as Tangible (Hello, you can literally acquire Soul Coins)). The person is effectively dead, and The Emperor retaining Balduran's memories is no more than an imprint left behind which in itself is rare in Forgotten Realms lore. Balduran's dead. But his habits and memories are not.

My first campaign I sided with the Emperor: of course I got the ending where he was painted in a better light. I've also partaken in a friend's campaign where he chose to become a Mind Flayer, and then ate 'Balduran's' brain at the end citing "there can only be one Mind Flayer".

I'll wait until your next post which is either going to be an outright deflection or arguing with the literal fact. But at this point, considering the vast majority of your posts are nothing short of contrarian, aggressive and combative, I don't think I'll consider it from now on.

You keep ranting on nonsensical points. And you can keep waiting for a post that does your homework for you that's not going to happen. Your conclusion is but one of a few. It's entirely possible to come to the conclusion that it's all manipulation. It's also entirely possible to come to the conclusion that the Emperor is exactly who he says he is and is on an redemption arc.

He isn't just painted in a better light, he is outright explained by Withers at one point to be exactly who he claims to be.

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

dunno if the initial statement is addressing me, since i said unquestionably Withers confirms the absence of illithid souls.
My scepticism is on the relevance level that a soul plays here.

Either way you're probably familiar with dissociative disorders, specifically derealization disorder. I unfortunately am, and my initial question here is if in fact there exists an inability to experience emotion, or rather it's an inability to consciously interpret emotion and associate with them. An individual can still generate emotions and emotional responses, without the ability to consciously experience them as emotions.

Like mentioned earlier by someone The Emperor's logs seem to reflect a kind of
confrontation with his own self, as he goes through and recalls events of his life after the Illithid transformation.

It could be right that his visible "emotional" responses and reactions, could be simply those of a mimic, but you are choosing that specific interpretation, as gospel upon which to further other conclusions or supportive arguments, when on the other hand a simple dissociation between his conscious brain (cortex? idk illithid anatomy) and its deeper layer generator of emotions, is equally possible, if not more plausible.

Once again, i think his inner conflict is very apparent in the game lore. But either way this is all conjecture from all of us.

I find your lack of faith in Omellum rather disturbing. It is feels rather obvious to me he does not "feel" remorse in the practices of his race, and that this is simply the true nature of their biology. But he is intelligent enough to understand the suffering cause upon other species, and that the whole thing is subjectively "morally" wrong, to the point of well, becoming what he becomes and dedicating his life to the pursue of an alternative for Illithids survival, where they could coexist peacefully with other sentient life forms.
Your brushing off of his whole character is very unsatisfactory to me :(

You should find it disturbing because it's as if Black Magic is hugging a body pillow that is the Emperor must be being manipulative or that his entire faith in the game will be gone lol. It's particularly interesting when someone wants to back 'diversity' in all sorts of ways but becomes close minded when it comes to this as a possibility.

We all know who Withers is. You're point is the correct one about souls. Having a soul or not isn't the issue here. The issue is that Withers himself at one point credits the Emperor for being exactly who he says and cements it further saying "I would know" he then goes on to further support him in a completely unexpected way being that Withers is pretty cryptic and rather lacking in communication up to this point.

Even emotions has little to do with any of this. What it's really all about is survival and freedom and the lengths one is willing to go and the cost one is willing to pay for that. Freedom isn't free.

You made a good point of thought when talking about dissociative disorder. I think one could put forth the following thought process... Could one who's intention to be free and survive use a tool of manipulation to succeed? Could this same individual also be influenced to use that same intention to do good? Particularly one who has faced an internal struggle and is experiencing individuality after being enslaved for years? What would you be willing to do to protect your freedom after such an ordeal?

Like almost everyone within the game, the player is the fulcrum that pushes and pulls on the nature of the others in the game who can be influenced. One might also come to the conclusion that the player him/herself is already enough of a mindflayer that our influence is powerful enough to create the same scenario that others will accuse the Emperor of and that we are simply manipulating things to our will.

[Narky]

Originally posted by Vixzian:

Originally posted by Black Magic:

No it isn't, I've literally uncovered most if not all routes, lol. You need to pack this elitist snobbery of yours in because every time we'd butt heads (more so you've thrown a tantrum), you've embarrassed youself. I literally could not care less how long you've played because you don't need to invest over 1k hours (that's not the kind of brag you think it is, it's actually kind of sad) to uncover all the lore., and I doubt any one with over 500 hours cares because that's the jist of how much you need to uncover all there is to the game.

Everything you post is argumentative and designed to challenge people because it's 99.9% of the time something that personally doesn't resonate with you (that's an ego problem of yours, not mine)—get over the fact you didn't understand what the word "manipulation" entails.

Here:

verb — manipulate (someone) using psychological methods into questioning their own sanity or powers of reasoning.

Lying is Manipulation. White lies are still Manipulative if their intent is to deceive (which "Balduran" confesses to). What The Emperor did was textbook manipulation. No doubt about it: literally no sane person would argue with it. There's LITERALLY no arguing with that objective fact. He outright uses magic to conceal his identity—he outright confesses you're a puppet. He drops the kind act once he realises he can't fool you.

He tries his hardest to convince you there "is no other way" to defeat the Elder Brain but it turns out, lo and behold, there is! (Orpheus being the other route). As soon as that happens, he turns tail and joins back with the Elder Brain because the only thing he cares about most is himself. And yes, before you bring up Orpheus being a puritanical extra-planar space Nazi who is Gith's only son (and only descendent), I know. The point was the Emperor was manipulating you for his own ends.

And no, the statement about ALL Mind Flayers working toward the Grand Design regardless of their apparent intentions is Forgotten Realms lore. Even the most well-meaning rogue Mind Flayer is still working toward it in their own way, even if they're unaware of it—almost as if it's ingrained in their subconscious. Mind Flayers cannot have souls, the soul is consumed 100% and multiple instances in the game confirm it (emotionlessness is connected to the lack of a soul in D&D's Forgotten Realms because the soul is treated as Tangible (Hello, you can literally acquire Soul Coins)). The person is effectively dead, and The Emperor retaining Balduran's memories is no more than an imprint left behind which in itself is rare in Forgotten Realms lore. Balduran's dead. But his habits and memories are not.

My first campaign I sided with the Emperor: of course I got the ending where he was painted in a better light. I've also partaken in a friend's campaign where he chose to become a Mind Flayer, and then ate 'Balduran's' brain at the end citing "there can only be one Mind Flayer".

I'll wait until your next post which is either going to be an outright deflection or arguing with the literal fact. But at this point, considering the vast majority of your posts are nothing short of contrarian, aggressive and combative, I don't think I'll consider it from now on.

You keep ranting on nonsensical points. And you can keep waiting for a post that does your homework for you that's not going to happen. Your conclusion is but one of a few. It's entirely possible to come to the conclusion that it's all manipulation. It's also entirely possible to come to the conclusion that the Emperor is exactly who he says he is and is on an redemption arc.

He isn't just painted in a better light, he is outright explained by Withers at one point to be exactly who he claims to be.

Originally posted by Vixzian:

Originally posted by Anima Mundi:

dunno if the initial statement is addressing me, since i said unquestionably Withers confirms the absence of illithid souls.
My scepticism is on the relevance level that a soul plays here.

Either way you're probably familiar with dissociative disorders, specifically derealization disorder. I unfortunately am, and my initial question here is if in fact there exists an inability to experience emotion, or rather it's an inability to consciously interpret emotion and associate with them. An individual can still generate emotions and emotional responses, without the ability to consciously experience them as emotions.

Like mentioned earlier by someone The Emperor's logs seem to reflect a kind of
confrontation with his own self, as he goes through and recalls events of his life after the Illithid transformation.

It could be right that his visible "emotional" responses and reactions, could be simply those of a mimic, but you are choosing that specific interpretation, as gospel upon which to further other conclusions or supportive arguments, when on the other hand a simple dissociation between his conscious brain (cortex? idk illithid anatomy) and its deeper layer generator of emotions, is equally possible, if not more plausible.

Once again, i think his inner conflict is very apparent in the game lore. But either way this is all conjecture from all of us.

I find your lack of faith in Omellum rather disturbing. It is feels rather obvious to me he does not "feel" remorse in the practices of his race, and that this is simply the true nature of their biology. But he is intelligent enough to understand the suffering cause upon other species, and that the whole thing is subjectively "morally" wrong, to the point of well, becoming what he becomes and dedicating his life to the pursue of an alternative for Illithids survival, where they could coexist peacefully with other sentient life forms.
Your brushing off of his whole character is very unsatisfactory to me :(

You should find it disturbing because it's as if Black Magic is hugging a body pillow that is the Emperor must be being manipulative or that his entire faith in the game will be gone lol. It's particularly interesting when someone wants to back 'diversity' in all sorts of ways but becomes close minded when it comes to this as a possibility.

We all know who Withers is. You're point is the correct one about souls. Having a soul or not isn't the issue here. The issue is that Withers himself at one point credits the Emperor for being exactly who he says and cements it further saying "I would know" he then goes on to further support him in a completely unexpected way being that Withers is pretty cryptic and rather lacking in communication up to this point.

Even emotions has little to do with any of this. What it's really all about is survival and freedom and the lengths one is willing to go and the cost one is willing to pay for that. Freedom isn't free.

You made a good point of thought when talking about dissociative disorder. I think one could put forth the following thought process... Could one who's intention to be free and survive use a tool of manipulation to succeed? Could this same individual also be influenced to use that same intention to do good? Particularly one who has faced an internal struggle and is experiencing individuality after being enslaved for years? What would you be willing to do to protect your freedom after such an ordeal?

Like almost everyone within the game, the player is the fulcrum that pushes and pulls on the nature of the others in the game who can be influenced. One might also come to the conclusion that the player him/herself is already enough of a mindflayer that our influence is powerful enough to create the same scenario that others will accuse the Emperor of and that we are simply manipulating things to our will.

So everything I've been saying from the start after you dove in with a p*ssy fit saying I and another were "wrong" for drawing our own conclusions because it didn't resonate with your idea of how the game goes. Couldn't be more petty if you tried.

We get you have a problem with us, but please keep things civil rather than attack people in the future. Keep that ego in check.

Thanks kiddo.

[Secanho]

Originally posted by XGear:

Poor character customization, cannot modify body structures such as face, body, height, etc. There are no tattoos for the body, or variety of faces and hair. Players even use pirated MODS to try to reverse the lack of customization within the game, risking the integrity of the computer itself, simply due to the lack of good official customization not implemented by the game's developers. There are more variations of genitals than customization of the entire body in general in this game, with many duplicate NPCs with the same face. Some even have your character's face on them.

Little diversity of skills. Practically the magical classes use the same spells, making the type of magical class you choose irrelevant, as they all use the same spells.

Archer and hiding classes are buggy and poorly designed. You can shoot arrows and hide by freezing enemies, making the game uninteresting and with a "Chese" feeling playing with these classes.

Game genres chosen in character creation do not influence in-game interaction. All NPCs that interact with you don't care about your chosen gender and just see your character as a "Sex Doll"and they cannot identify whether the player wants homosexual or heterosexual interactions. The game can't even understand that you don't like sexual interactions with animal bears, making the NPCs become animals to interact with the player like a couple.

The game's AI is very poorly done, the group's characters are not able to follow or avoid traps, and there is no "Auto Play" option to let the machine play with companions and help with strategies like in renowned strategy games from past.

Cannot customize companion characters

Lots of bugs, feeling like the game was rushed and poorly taken care of by the development team. It looks like they didn't play their own game.

The game's original story makes no sense. It revolves around removing Tadpole from the brain, but there is no satisfactory endgame for those who wish to follow this path.

Your choices are irrelevant, leading you down a predetermined and defined path. False sense of RPG, where your choices do not affect the journey.

Poorly optimized game, demanding a lot from the GPU, CPU and memory at 1080P res, if you don't play with DLSS turned on. (Or Ryzen in case you have it).

Poorly designed control interface with few customizations. It is not even possible to lock the gamepad cursor while customizing the radial to attach the skills to the slots.

Terrible save system, the game is not capable of handling auto saves, creating hundreds of auto saves, causing the player to have to save manually.

Terrible exploration system, where characters cannot jump, pick up items or break boxes without invoking the Radial Menu. The Radial Menu should only be used in battles and not in exploration mode.

Weak and discouraging world exploration. The game has many loot items such as boxes, jars, etc., making opening them a "Boring" habit where you won't find anything useful. Just polluting the game world and delaying the player by looking for precious items in places that will never exist. The world is also very small and with just a few steps you can practically walk around the entire map.

Poorly designed and meaningless character stories. As in the case of Dark Urge, there are the biggest narrative holes. Several narrative holes can also be found during a casual game with a custom character (TaV).


And there are still many more things that if I continue, I will stay here until next year. HOW IS THIS GAME THE GAME OF THE YEAR? What parameter was used for this? As a veteran RPG player, saying this game is GOTY rated is insulting.

I know you are a salty hater, but I agree with the customization part. It is very poor.

Now I wonder: what game do you think deserves a GOTY? If you think there is one...

[Vixziค็็็็็n]

Originally posted by Black Magic:

Originally posted by Vixzian:

You keep ranting on nonsensical points. And you can keep waiting for a post that does your homework for you that's not going to happen. Your conclusion is but one of a few. It's entirely possible to come to the conclusion that it's all manipulation. It's also entirely possible to come to the conclusion that the Emperor is exactly who he says he is and is on an redemption arc.

He isn't just painted in a better light, he is outright explained by Withers at one point to be exactly who he claims to be.

Originally posted by Vixzian:

You should find it disturbing because it's as if Black Magic is hugging a body pillow that is the Emperor must be being manipulative or that his entire faith in the game will be gone lol. It's particularly interesting when someone wants to back 'diversity' in all sorts of ways but becomes close minded when it comes to this as a possibility.

We all know who Withers is. You're point is the correct one about souls. Having a soul or not isn't the issue here. The issue is that Withers himself at one point credits the Emperor for being exactly who he says and cements it further saying "I would know" he then goes on to further support him in a completely unexpected way being that Withers is pretty cryptic and rather lacking in communication up to this point.

Even emotions has little to do with any of this. What it's really all about is survival and freedom and the lengths one is willing to go and the cost one is willing to pay for that. Freedom isn't free.

You made a good point of thought when talking about dissociative disorder. I think one could put forth the following thought process... Could one who's intention to be free and survive use a tool of manipulation to succeed? Could this same individual also be influenced to use that same intention to do good? Particularly one who has faced an internal struggle and is experiencing individuality after being enslaved for years? What would you be willing to do to protect your freedom after such an ordeal?

Like almost everyone within the game, the player is the fulcrum that pushes and pulls on the nature of the others in the game who can be influenced. One might also come to the conclusion that the player him/herself is already enough of a mindflayer that our influence is powerful enough to create the same scenario that others will accuse the Emperor of and that we are simply manipulating things to our will.

So everything I've been saying from the start after you dove in with a p*ssy fit saying I and another were "wrong" because it didn't resonate with you.

We get you have a problem with us, but please keep things civil rather than attack people in the future.

Thanks kiddo.

Being that I'm older than you the petty kiddo thing is cute lol. And you said none of this from the start but nice try at misdirection but you'd have to do much better considering there are people here arguing your points for the same reason which is that you keep coming to a conclusion about manipulation as if there is no other conclusion to be had. You also kept making the statement that the Emporer is not who he says he is. I countered that and the proof is in the dialogue within the game.

So you're welcome kiddo.

[Knightfell]

The answer is simple... just don't play...