DId anyone else get bored and just not finish?

[3201]

By the end of Act 1, I was bored. Killing Astarion was probably the most fun bit I had in the game. I can't figure out why this game is so beloved. It just got boring for me.

[kbiz]

Originally posted by id795078477:

Originally posted by kbiz:

However, we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that BG3 is excelling at every metric. We have a preponderance of evidence here.

It doesn't excel at every metric. Just a quick glance at its global achievement stats reveals issues with player retention and engagement. The game being sold and played enough so that to not being returned isn't the same as the game being enjoyed start to end. It has correlation, but not causation.

If you just take a look at how many players entered Act 3 - that tells you all you need to know. Sure, "but it's only steam stats, there's also GOG" (or any other platforms) - but it's irrelevant because there's no reason to believe steam players are somehow different from other platforms meaning the data doesn't have the bias thus extrapolating it to other platforms isn't an issue.

To illustrate:
49% left Act 1 (i.e. proceeded to Act 2)
35% left Act 2 (i.e. proceeded to Act 3)

- i.e. we have half of the players who bought the game abandoning it somewhere in Act 1. And we have ~two thirds of players abandoning it somewhere in Act 2. Those folks didn't finish even a single play-through. Which is why the subject of this thread just .. isn't too far-fetched? If anything, OP is in the majority here because it seems that 51% of players didn't bother to play after Act 1..

Name a metric BG3 doesn't excel at. Everything I see is excellence.

No one finishes any game.

What matters is the players' opinions. Their consensus. And we see 500K reviews. 96% positive, baby!

[Dagný]

No

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Originally posted by id795078477:

It doesn't excel at every metric. Just a quick glance at its global achievement stats reveals issues with player retention and engagement. The game being sold and played enough so that to not being returned isn't the same as the game being enjoyed start to end. It has correlation, but not causation.

If you just take a look at how many players entered Act 3 - that tells you all you need to know. Sure, "but it's only steam stats, there's also GOG" (or any other platforms) - but it's irrelevant because there's no reason to believe steam players are somehow different from other platforms meaning the data doesn't have the bias thus extrapolating it to other platforms isn't an issue.

To illustrate:
49% left Act 1 (i.e. proceeded to Act 2)
35% left Act 2 (i.e. proceeded to Act 3)

- i.e. we have half of the players who bought the game abandoning it somewhere in Act 1. And we have ~two thirds of players abandoning it somewhere in Act 2. Those folks didn't finish even a single play-through. Which is why the subject of this thread just .. isn't too far-fetched? If anything, OP is in the majority here because it seems that 51% of players didn't bother to play after Act 1..

Name a metric BG3 doesn't excel at. Everything I see is excellence.

No one finishes any game.

What matters is the players' opinions. Their consensus. And we see 500K reviews. 96% positive, baby!

Imo combat is mediocre at best, writing is pretty bad, dialog is bad, overall map design is bad, and translation of tabletop rules are bad.

It excels in voice acting, graphics (for crpg standards), and amount of content. Quest structure also varies from very good to bad and everything in between.

[id795078477]

Originally posted by kbiz:

Originally posted by id795078477:

It doesn't excel at every metric. Just a quick glance at its global achievement stats reveals issues with player retention and engagement. The game being sold and played enough so that to not being returned isn't the same as the game being enjoyed start to end. It has correlation, but not causation.

If you just take a look at how many players entered Act 3 - that tells you all you need to know. Sure, "but it's only steam stats, there's also GOG" (or any other platforms) - but it's irrelevant because there's no reason to believe steam players are somehow different from other platforms meaning the data doesn't have the bias thus extrapolating it to other platforms isn't an issue.

To illustrate:
49% left Act 1 (i.e. proceeded to Act 2)
35% left Act 2 (i.e. proceeded to Act 3)

- i.e. we have half of the players who bought the game abandoning it somewhere in Act 1. And we have ~two thirds of players abandoning it somewhere in Act 2. Those folks didn't finish even a single play-through. Which is why the subject of this thread just .. isn't too far-fetched? If anything, OP is in the majority here because it seems that 51% of players didn't bother to play after Act 1..

Name a metric BG3 doesn't excel at. Everything I see is excellence.

No one finishes any game.

What matters is the players' opinions. Their consensus. And we see 500K reviews. 96% positive, baby!

I named two. Player retention and player engagement. Both with their relative metrics backed up by numbers. I consider my job done here. Unlike many other things I said above, this one isn't my subjective PoV, it's a reality reflected in numbers. More - it is most relevant to the subject of this thread where OP asked this very question - i.e. if someone just stopped playing without finishing it. And as those numbers show - yes, there are a lot of those "someone". The majority in fact.

You can point out to the reviews % but - first, that % isn't reflecting the truth (see my point about that above), and - second - it isn't even relevant to the subject of this thread.

P.S. Honestly, it feels like going in circles (just like any time there's any critique about the game). I say "here's argument A, B, C" => "the game won the GOTY, it has 96% reviews!" => "here's X, Y,Z on why neither of those mean a lot or isn't reflecting the truth" =>  "the game won the GOTY, it has 96% reviews!" => ... Yeah, no. I'm not about to argue with blind faith and adoration. Those things have aversion to facts. But at least that's consistent with all fanboyism and isn't a feature of a single individual. Seen that many times.

[Cartesian Duelist]

Originally posted by Kalypso:

Tantrum mode? My my, someone can't take a joke xDD Cry harder that I don't agree with you people. I'll keep laughing.

Yes, this is temper tantrum behavior. By all means, feel free to continue with the sad clown antics.

[Cooperal]

I burned out a few hours after entering Baldur's Gate proper. I felt that Ketheric was done pretty dirty during his exit from the story. It seemed to make him seem pretty small time compared to his peers after having spent some of the first and most of the second act building him up. It started to feel like things were dragging now that you suddenly have these even bigger baddies.

But yeah pair that with getting to the city and being overwhelmed by the amount of places to suddenly explore and story arcs to close. I didn't feel like I was done but I wasn't motivated enough to click play.

[Pieshaman]

I really enjoyed being a good guy beastmaster, but my evil dark urge berserker is still stuck in act 1. Somehow I can't get myself to be evil and enjoying it then. but that goes for every rpg, I always end up doing what I think is best and never be evil if it not necessary.

[Evito]

I've played through it multiple times, but I always get bored in Act 3 and skip majority of it.l

[Noquid]

Steam's "Review this game": thumbs up or thumbs down. No criteria whatsoever. In the past I would give a thumbs up if I felt the game was worth the cost, so most of my reviews are thumbs up. Hours of entertainment vs. cost of game. This game however, is different. I'm into my 4th complete playthrough, have played for over 1k hours and I honestly don't think I'm giving it a thumbs up. This is my last playthrough though, that much I know.