Dark Urge choices (Act 2 spoilers!!!)

[Quacksalber]

I'm playing a character that does not give in to every urge, so this isn't an issue for me right now, but I'm wondering:

How do people rationalise killing Isobel?

It seems like a terribly stupid thing to do to me even for an evil character. You seem to have previous beef with the absolute (hence joining that side won't be something you will likely be considering), so why kill someone who's on your side, has helped you, and is responsible for keeping the only safe place in the area, well safe. It's just wanton self-sabotage to kill her, serving no purpose whatsoever, in my opinion. I plan to do a Durge playthrough where you give in, but I feel incapable because it makes no sense to me, it just feels like narrative hard mode.

What mindset do you have construct to rp this choice? A zealot? A murder / power addict who just cannot resist? Shouldn't all companions with functioning brains stab you at this point and nab the artefact?

Also, what would you think of Larian adding other player character origins to the game, or of having a Durge companion?

[Exaxis]

>How do people rationalise killing Isobel?
your butler asked you to kill her what other reasons do you need?
obviously hes gonna give you a reward like after u killed bard

>Shouldn't all companions with functioning brains stab you at this point and nab the artefact?
they just dont care about durge stuff, except Minthara( she approves )

[The 13th Ghost Bunny]

How did I rationalise putting her to the sword? I had already embraced my dark urges by that point and yearned for more bloodshed, more slaughter. I killed her because in doing so countless more would die all by my design. I was a good daughter of Bhaal.

Spilling blood brought my Bhaalspawn happiness and a peaceful night's sleep. She mocked Jaheira in the aftermath, and Jaheira could do nothing but react with sheer horror and remark about how she travelled with one such as me before. :D

[Myrmicus]

How I rationalise killing Isobel as Durge ?
Simple : I don't.
Durge has what it says on the tin : Dark Urges. It isn't rational, you want to kill, you have to kill, because it is what you are... If Durge wasn't the protagonist, he would be a serial killer, potentially the main antagonist of a murder mistery or a thriller.

How do I rationalise killing Isobel ?
Because as an evil Durge, I want to kill her, I have to kill her. Because I like to kill and maim and her death would cause the death of others. To Durge, killing isn't a mean, it's an end. The real question here isn't "why ?" but "how ?"

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Exaxis:

>How do people rationalise killing Isobel?
your butler asked you to kill her what other reasons do you need?
obviously hes gonna give you a reward like after u killed bard

>Shouldn't all companions with functioning brains stab you at this point and nab the artefact?
they just dont care about durge stuff, except Minthara( she approves )

Like no one notices what you did in Act 1, although it's obvious? That was pretty ridiculous xD

Okay so what I'm getting from this is you have to switch off the part of your brain that questions whether things make sense. Like a cat? Killing because you can and you enjoy it, and nothing else matters.

[The 13th Ghost Bunny]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by Exaxis:

>How do people rationalise killing Isobel?
your butler asked you to kill her what other reasons do you need?
obviously hes gonna give you a reward like after u killed bard

>Shouldn't all companions with functioning brains stab you at this point and nab the artefact?
they just dont care about durge stuff, except Minthara( she approves )

Like no one notices what you did in Act 1, although it's obvious? That was pretty ridiculous xD

Okay so what I'm getting from this is you have to switch off the part of your brain that questions whether things make sense. Like a cat? Killing because you can and you enjoy it, and nothing else matters.

Exactly like a kitty cat! Cats are also known to kill for fun. Dark Urge should be renamed Kitty Urges. Only thing it's missing is the urge to knock things off of tables.

Yeah was weird how you could brutalise Alfira in the middle of camp without anyone noticing. They only notice it if you choose to leave the body on show, and even then you can go "Yep! Was me! :D" and they're all "Oh, that sucks. Well, anyway..."

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by The 13th Ghost Bunny:

Originally posted by EH!:

Like no one notices what you did in Act 1, although it's obvious? That was pretty ridiculous xD

Okay so what I'm getting from this is you have to switch off the part of your brain that questions whether things make sense. Like a cat? Killing because you can and you enjoy it, and nothing else matters.

Exactly like a kitty cat! Cats are also known to kill for fun. Dark Urge should be renamed Kitty Urges. Only thing it's missing is the urge to knock things off of tables.

Yeah was weird how you could brutalise Alfira in the middle of camp without anyone noticing. They only notice it if you choose to leave the body on show, and even then you can go "Yep! Was me! :D" and they're all "Oh, that sucks. Well, anyway..."

That would be hilarious if you got the urge to knock stuff off tables as well. Or to piss in places to make a point xD

I have to try the leaving the body next time, that's even funnier.

[Quacksalber]

I have another question. What happens if Isobel is already dead and Marcus took her aka you just let him take her?

[The 13th Ghost Bunny]

Originally posted by EH!:

I have another question. What happens if Isobel is already dead and Marcus took her aka you just let him take her?

No clue. I mean, i guess it still does the same thing, but it might also bug it out, which would suck.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by The 13th Ghost Bunny:

Originally posted by EH!:

I have another question. What happens if Isobel is already dead and Marcus took her aka you just let him take her?

No clue. I mean, i guess it still does the same thing, but it might also bug it out, which would suck.

Yeah. I might try it next run and see what happens.

[Kiyaya]

Butler does mention that if you fail to sate your urges upon Isobel, someone close to you may die in her stead.
Perhaps you value your allies more than the lives of last light.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Kiyaya:

Butler does mention that if you fail to sate your urges upon Isobel, someone close to you may die in her stead.
Perhaps you value your allies more than the lives of last light.

That does make sense as a motivation, not that I registered him saying that, or immediately forgot due to shock xD

[phlegmo]

Originally posted by EH!:

I have another question. What happens if Isobel is already dead and Marcus took her aka you just let him take her?

I let Marcus take her (don't think you can kill her at that point), then killed her on Ketheric encounter. After that I got the slayer form

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by phlegmo:

Originally posted by EH!:

I have another question. What happens if Isobel is already dead and Marcus took her aka you just let him take her?

I let Marcus take her (don't think you can kill her at that point), then killed her on Ketheric encounter. After that I got the slayer form

I think if she dies, Marcus flies off with her (and I assume daddy resses her again?). Or maybe she's knocked out. This happened to me on my first playthrough. I was mega annoyed because Marcus was in fits of laughter with like 1 hp, my bard was feeling his oats big time, and next thing I know Marcus is flying off with her in a cutscene and everything's going to sht xD I reloaded though.

[phlegmo]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by phlegmo:

I let Marcus take her (don't think you can kill her at that point), then killed her on Ketheric encounter. After that I got the slayer form

I think if she dies, Marcus flies off with her (and I assume daddy resses her again?). Or maybe she's knocked out. This happened to me on my first playthrough. I was mega annoyed because Marcus was in fits of laughter with like 1 hp, my bard was feeling his oats big time, and next thing I know Marcus is flying off with her in a cutscene and everything's going to sht xD I reloaded though.

Yep, you get her hp down and cutscene plays out.

And if you kill Marcus and then kill her after, same thing happens but it's not Marcus in the custcene. Instead some ghoul take her away

[Sister of Silence]

Having a hard time with this as well. So far I've always saved LL because I can't make my head wrap around it making sense to kill them, aside from "haha all dead". The dark side needs more logical incentives. I have no idea how to play a murderous psychopath gone off the rails and I don't see the fun in it either. It's just as bad as playing lawful good zealot errant girl, can't do that either.