No Inns? WTF?!

[Forsaken Falcon]

Seriously I like this game for the most part but small simple things make it just feel like a video game and not a virtual world, Iv been playing BG1/2 since launch and played the crap out of both many times and never got into divinity so alot of the environmental and combat aspects are new to me but im ok with that but yeah a few things I'v noticed that have really dishearten Me with this game over My last 2 experiences is simply.

No Inns? even when inside the city? can't hire a room and drink with your crew? even inside the city you set up a camp site even though you apparently live in the city of baldurs gate?? wtf?

2nd is lack of temples, yes there is some npcs that can res npcs but its very shallow compared to even the temple district of bg2 where you not only get temples but ones dedicated to various gods.

3rdly yes i know the druid grove is a hub/city basically but it just feels weird and out of place to start miles n miles from civilisation and have to wait for act 3 to touch a real town or city comparing it to bg1/2 where you start in a real town or city it seems very video gamey plotline & due to this I tended to find Myself rushing chapter 1 n 2 just to get the feel of progression & once I enter the city it was very lackluster

if there is ever any dlcs or bg4 in future I hope You add more basic simple things that make the game world feel more real and lived

again not a bad game i do not regret buying it at full price but its not sticking to me like the prior games did even if the graphics and gameplay in this is better it just feels to video game like over a open world adventure experience.

[Blair Fujin]

you can actually get a room in act 3 in lower city and then whenever you "camp" within it you get transported to that room in the inn (forgot which one... there was a murder there and you can use it to get the room for cheap) where your companions are way less spaced out and you don't have to look all over the place to have a chat with them about whatever quest you've just finished

[Estevan Valladares]

People screech here before even a simple search in google it seems.

[Rabbit]

In Act 1 there's no inn to stay in. In Act 2 the inn is full unless you killed them all then it's not really an inn anymore anyway. In Act 3 there is an inn and you can rent an entire penthouse to camp in.

[TamTroll]

also if you're playing a Tav, there's no guarantee you're "from" Baldur's Gate, maybe there are dialogue options to let you say you are somewhere, but if you don't pick them, then it's assumed you're not from there.

don't forget, your character is in the Nautaloid in the opening cinematic with Lae'zel, well before it reaches Baldur's Gate.

Pretty sure Astarian and Shadowheart are the only PC's who actually LIVE in Baldur's Gate to be honest. And even then, Shadowheart wasn't home when she was taken, Astarian is the only one who was captured inside the city.

[Forsaken Falcon]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

In Act 1 there's no inn to stay in. In Act 2 the inn is full unless you killed them all then it's not really an inn anymore anyway. In Act 3 there is an inn and you can rent an entire penthouse to camp in.

the inn in act 2 is just a safe area , besides the 1 npc selling stuff there isnt much interaction or any thing inn related there.

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

In Act 1 there's no inn to stay in. In Act 2 the inn is full unless you killed them all then it's not really an inn anymore anyway. In Act 3 there is an inn and you can rent an entire penthouse to camp in.

the inn in act 2 is just a safe area , besides the 1 npc selling stuff there isnt much interaction or any thing inn related there.

I don't see what your complaint is then. The part of the game that takes place in a city has an inn you can stay in. You're comparing this to the first games and that's how it was there too. You spend the majority of BG1 sleeping in the wilds (or sewers) because it's objectively more work and less reward to go into the inns.

[Forsaken Falcon]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

the inn in act 2 is just a safe area , besides the 1 npc selling stuff there isnt much interaction or any thing inn related there.

I don't see what your complaint is then. The part of the game that takes place in a city has an inn you can stay in. You're comparing this to the first games and that's how it was there too. You spend the majority of BG1 sleeping in the wilds (or sewers) because it's objectively more work and less reward to go into the inns.

candle keep inn, friendly arms inn, the inn south of candle keep, not sure what your on about? you can hit a civilisation quick and easy in bg1 hell you start in candle keep...

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

I don't see what your complaint is then. The part of the game that takes place in a city has an inn you can stay in. You're comparing this to the first games and that's how it was there too. You spend the majority of BG1 sleeping in the wilds (or sewers) because it's objectively more work and less reward to go into the inns.

candle keep inn, friendly arms inn, the inn south of candle keep, not sure what your on about? you can hit a civilisation quick and easy in bg1 hell you start in candle keep...

And why would you go into town and pay to sleep in the inn when you can sleep where you are and maybe even get an encounter with easy xp? Do you drop everything you're doing to go back to the town in the middle of a quest area?

[Tenor Sounds]

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

I don't see what your complaint is then. The part of the game that takes place in a city has an inn you can stay in. You're comparing this to the first games and that's how it was there too. You spend the majority of BG1 sleeping in the wilds (or sewers) because it's objectively more work and less reward to go into the inns.

candle keep inn, friendly arms inn, the inn south of candle keep, not sure what your on about? you can hit a civilisation quick and easy in bg1 hell you start in candle keep...

I think the answer here is just that...BG3 is much more complex than the previous games, and is necessarily structured differently as well. In BG1 the inns were all basically copy-pasted areas with a couple of unique NPCs, in BG3 every "settlement" (for lack of a better word) is bespoke and very detailed.

[Estevan Valladares]

Originally posted by TamTroll:

also if you're playing a Tav, there's no guarantee you're "from" Baldur's Gate, maybe there are dialogue options to let you say you are somewhere, but if you don't pick them, then it's assumed you're not from there.

don't forget, your character is in the Nautaloid in the opening cinematic with Lae'zel, well before it reaches Baldur's Gate.

Pretty sure Astarian and Shadowheart are the only PC's who actually LIVE in Baldur's Gate to be honest. And even then, Shadowheart wasn't home when she was taken, Astarian is the only one who was captured inside the city.

Funny that almost no one hints at the huge "spoiler" the opening cinematic is once you you think about it in retrospect from Act 2.

[Forsaken Falcon]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

candle keep inn, friendly arms inn, the inn south of candle keep, not sure what your on about? you can hit a civilisation quick and easy in bg1 hell you start in candle keep...

And why would you go into town and pay to sleep in the inn when you can sleep where you are and maybe even get an encounter with easy xp? Do you drop everything you're doing to go back to the town in the middle of a quest area?

why wouldn't i use a inn for a safe rest? they were in game for a reason? & i try and treat these games as a virtual experience over a video game so for role play reasons Id much rather use a inn when possible.

back tracking in bg1/2 isnt so bad once you got a haste spell so back tracking never really bothered me. and due to been able to see pretty much every thing on the map it didn't feel like it dragged on.

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by Forsaken Falcon:

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

And why would you go into town and pay to sleep in the inn when you can sleep where you are and maybe even get an encounter with easy xp? Do you drop everything you're doing to go back to the town in the middle of a quest area?

why wouldn't i use a inn for a safe rest? they were in game for a reason? & i try and treat these games as a virtual experience over a video game so for role play reasons Id much rather use a inn when possible.

In that case why does it bother you that there aren't inns in places that wouldn't have inns?

Edit: You don't seem to have a firm grasp on whether or not you like roleplaying and situations that make sense rather than function a certain way for gameplay.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

Originally posted by TamTroll:

also if you're playing a Tav, there's no guarantee you're "from" Baldur's Gate, maybe there are dialogue options to let you say you are somewhere, but if you don't pick them, then it's assumed you're not from there.

don't forget, your character is in the Nautaloid in the opening cinematic with Lae'zel, well before it reaches Baldur's Gate.

Pretty sure Astarian and Shadowheart are the only PC's who actually LIVE in Baldur's Gate to be honest. And even then, Shadowheart wasn't home when she was taken, Astarian is the only one who was captured inside the city.

Funny that almost no one hints at the huge "spoiler" the opening cinematic is once you you think about it in retrospect from Act 2.

could you elaborate?

unless it's something spoiling the very end of the game. i'm still in the middle of act 3 myself, just running around the lower city wrapping up loose ends and the like.

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by TamTroll:

Astarian is the only one who was captured inside the city.

Can't get a rat meal in peace, the poor soul.

[Rabbit]

Originally posted by TamTroll:

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

Funny that almost no one hints at the huge "spoiler" the opening cinematic is once you you think about it in retrospect from Act 2.

could you elaborate?

unless it's something spoiling the very end of the game. i'm still in the middle of act 3 myself, just running around the lower city wrapping up loose ends and the like.

I think he's referring to What the illithid that tadpoles you looks like