Any way to kill Ketheric Thorm in the first fight?

[Garfield233]

I know you're supposed to whittle him down before a cutscene comes in, but has anyone managed to get him in one go?

[Silyon]

I did, thanks to Gale and my Sorcerer/Paladin for AoEs that ignore his AC. Honorable mention to Karlach for leaping clear across the arena to free Alyin on turn 1.

Cutscene plays as normal. The trigger is whichever comes first, Thorm hitting 0 HP or X turns passing.

[Mike Garrison]

Which "first fight"?

On top of the tower? Or do you mean the first part of his final fight?

Either way, he's going to be protected by plot armor. He's not going to actually die until he is scripted to do so.

[pezenwever]

Top of the tower is indeed the first time you can fight him. He is invulnerable but you can snipe all his adds and then run away.
As for the "real fight" itself. I got the chatty cutscene when I misty stepped 1 character on the ledge to release the dame.
Then I was able to kill him in 2 turns. Afterwards I read there's another phase to the battle that I skipped that way. Not sure if you are refering to his talking or the part that I supposedly missed out on.

[Husker_85]

Originally posted by pezenwever:

Top of the tower is indeed the first time you can fight him. He is invulnerable but you can snipe all his adds and then run away.
As for the "real fight" itself. I got the chatty cutscene when I misty stepped 1 character on the ledge to release the dame.
Then I was able to kill him in 2 turns. Afterwards I read there's another phase to the battle that I skipped that way. Not sure if you are refering to his talking or the part that I supposedly missed out on.

Depending on your choices in the Shadowfell he can be very much not invulnerable in the first fight. But lowering his health a certain amount triggers a cutscene and damage that would reduce his health to 0 reduces it to 1 instead.

[Kernest]

Originally posted by pezenwever:

Top of the tower is indeed the first time you can fight him. He is invulnerable but you can snipe all his adds and then run away.
As for the "real fight" itself. I got the chatty cutscene when I misty stepped 1 character on the ledge to release the dame.
Then I was able to kill him in 2 turns. Afterwards I read there's another phase to the battle that I skipped that way. Not sure if you are refering to his talking or the part that I supposedly missed out on.

In the "2nd fight" inside the mind flayer colony there are two parts, first against Ketheric and second against him as Avatar of Myrkul.

But it should be possible to skip the first part with some conversation options and go straight to the Avatar fight.

[Xenobunny]

In some cases targets who are downed at 1 or 0 hp as a mandatory dialog character can "melt to death" if you have poison/corrosion/acid debuffs on them. I had this happen to "Mother Superior", she just melted to death mid monologue and was later regarded as being alive. This is due to poison ticking through cut scenes. I've had my main character drop dead during cut scenes because of poison. It's only funny the 1st time around. It gets old :(. But now that my party suffers from one punch man syndrome (they are too powerful) I've just accepted that the story is going to suffer as collateral damage spills into every remaining facet of the game.
Long Story Short... Break the game, it will be fine. Chain explosives and blast him from the roof maybe?