Baldur's Gate 3

Baldur's Gate 3

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Any benefit for not abusing stealing?
Is there any benefit for not abusing stealing from NPCs? A friend of mine, is spending hours on hours stealing from the NPCs in the Druids Grove, abuses leveling-up and resetting and say that this is the intended way to play.
I wonder, is there any benefit not engaging of that cheese, like if I want to play a good character?
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In doubt, speed up your friends action by telling them about bribe+feign death+fog/darkness combo. That should save you some nerves from waiting too long for them to finish the deed.
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Messaggio originale di Bongoboy:
Any benefit for not abusing stealing?
Is there any benefit for not abusing stealing from NPCs? A friend of mine, is spending hours on hours stealing from the NPCs in the Druids Grove, abuses leveling-up and resetting and say that this is the intended way to play.
I wonder, is there any benefit not engaging of that cheese, like if I want to play a good character?

a) it is not intended that way

b) you should ask yourself that question again for real life which brings you to the same answers
Every way is the intended way. That's the point of the game.
There's enough money, your friend is just wasting your time.
Stealing is honestly something that I’ll have my party do not because we can’t afford the items, we just feel entitled to them. Haha

Seriously, though, unless breaking the economy makes the game unfun for you, there’s no reason not to steal - and there’s no reward for not engaging in the act. Honestly, I feel like Larian encourages it, and I love it.
This is an RPG. Key word in that being "role". If your character steals, then steal. If they don't, then don't.
I play a good character who tries never do to anything wrong. I'm in the middle of act 2 now and have already dumped most of my money several times in the camp-chest because I have so much that I become overburdened. Make with that what you will.
There isn't any downside to stealing providing you don't get caught doing it. However there isn't any advantage to stealing either. You make more money from legitimate loot than you could possibly spend on anything worth buying. Most players end up carting 40-50k gold a round by the end of the game desperately looking, and looking in vain, for something worth spending it on.

Which actually leadss to the one big downside of a life of crime in BG3: unlike most all other cRPGs in BG3 gold actually has weight. Quite a lot of weight actually, something like 1kg per 1000 gold pieces. 40-50kg of dead weight in your inventory cannot be considered an advantage.
Nah, and you will want to steal a lot of stuff in act 3 when you see the prices.
Messaggio originale di Gregorovitch:
There isn't any downside to stealing providing you don't get caught doing it. However there isn't any advantage to stealing either. You make more money from legitimate loot than you could possibly spend on anything worth buying. Most players end up carting 40-50k gold a round by the end of the game desperately looking, and looking in vain, for something worth spending it on.

Which actually leadss to the one big downside of a life of crime in BG3: unlike most all other cRPGs in BG3 gold actually has weight. Quite a lot of weight actually, something like 1kg per 1000 gold pieces. 40-50kg of dead weight in your inventory cannot be considered an advantage.
I’ll simply add that the disadvantages of stealing aren’t even that bad if you do it right. You can send a hireling to go do all the stealing for you. If they get caught, just have them choose to attack, then flee and hide. If you hide successfully, you can just go right on back and they won’t care. You might not be able to talk to them anymore, but you can steal as much as you like.
Not pissing people off, if you're the type who doesn't save scum while doing it. Or saving a massive amount of real world time if you do save scum. Or not having to deal with the hassle of just having too much money and items to sell, but nothing to use it on, and thus dealing with inventory clutter and encumbrance far more often.

Realistically, money becomes effectively infinite by the midpoint of act 1. The question shouldn't be whether there are negative consequences for stealing... it's whether there are positive benefits at all.
Ultima modifica da DontMisunderstand; 3 ott 2023, ore 2:55
They could have added group / faction reputation into the game that would make stealing respected by some and hated by others. Quests effect reputation and so on. Clearly vendors being the most effected.

But such a simple mechanic / script requires time and effort which they ran out of and released before the game without adding any of those mechanics. It was not really required in a linear story line.
At the end of the game you will have more than enough money. I never stole, just looted the enemies and dungeons. Money is not a problem at all. And I didn't even had a character with high charisma for trading.
Ultima modifica da i-mod; 3 ott 2023, ore 3:07
It's definitely not "the intended way to play". This is an RPG. If you're RPing someone who steals, then go ahead and do that. If you don't care about RP and just want to min-max, go ahead and do that.
the benefit is the level of difficult you want to have but sadly there is no that in-deep faction reputation but mainly PCs<>NPCs approvation level (CHA, persuasion), but in my opinion vendors AI need a tweek to be more hard to pickpocket and/or more punitive if you fail, and the same goes whit illidith powers: there is nothing to reward you from not using at all, only the difficult level you want to not to use overpowered overpowers, btw i dont hate all of this since is 100% avoidable, so it is like an difficult option you can use or not: do you want money equip and try all the items npcs sell, or do you want to legit be a thief that get arrested you can, fact is you can 100% cheat using the savegame or be 100% legit, get arrested whit near zero consequances or at the worst to lock some quest/content; in both cases i think it is an intended behaviour.
the benefit is that you don't really need to, and can save yourself HOURS of time by not fiddling with it except in very few obvious circumstances.
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Data di pubblicazione: 2 ott 2023, ore 19:13
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