Unstoppable perk, how did I deal so much damage ?

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

So I was facing Orin while letting the cultist do their chant for the achievement , of course that means everytime it's her turn, she gets back to unstoppable(10).
And I thought " I'm gonna do like 200+ ticks to her and pray that she doesn't kill too many of my party members in between" because I was pretty sure I couldn't go with 10+ ticks to remove it (With missed, stunned, slowed party members...)
And while fighting, I noticed that a few hits did way more damage than 1 :
-Astarion hitting with double daggers got a few nice 30+ out of his "normal attacks"
-Minthara radiant damage sometimes dealt 10 to 15 damage

As little as it may sound, it was a pretty huge boost to take down orin with her unstoppable perk.
So how come I dealt more than "1" on attacks ? Does it have to do with piercing and radiant specifically ? Not that it bothers me, but if I can understand that for future playthroughs, it might be useful sometimes.

[Kernest]

I haven't exactly sussed it out, but I suspect sometimes 2 different types of damage from the same hit are counted separately.

Like a hammer that deals bludgeoning and radiant damage might count as two.

For Astarion dealing 30 dmg my first guess would be it's somehow related to Sneak Attack.

[in]

Use some multi attack like high level magic missile.

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

Originally posted by Kernest:

I haven't exactly sussed it out, but I suspect ...

Well, I wasn't sneaking at all because I circled orin, so that if she tried to go away she would get hit with opportunity attack etc...
Also sometimes when hitting with the paladin radiant attack from minthara, I saw 3 dmg but 1+1+1 :
-1 Psy damage
-1 Radiant damage
-1 Physical damage
It was doing this for all turns on lazael, she was dealing 1+1 (1 slashing + 1psy)
So it seems either the mechanic is a bit broken (sometimes it counts more than 1 on a random basis) or maybe because she was affected by some status ?
I was only applying "frightened" if I recall properly

[Kernest]

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

Well, I wasn't sneaking at all because I circled orin, so that if she tried to go away she would get hit with opportunity attack etc..

You can deal sneak attack damage even if you're not hiding.

Perhaps the primary way of doing so is by having the same target engaged by a different party member / ally...

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

Originally posted by in:

Use some multi attack like high level magic missile.

Nah I decided to deal with it the dumb way, thanks to my cleric and help spell + healing perks, all my teammates had resistances + more than 120 Hp each, my team was pretty solid tbh, that's why I didn't bother that much.
Here i'm trying to dig into the unstoppable mechanic to get how it works ^^

[in]

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

Originally posted by in:

Use some multi attack like high level magic missile.

Nah I decided to deal with it the dumb way, thanks to my cleric and help spell + healing perks, all my teammates had resistances + more than 120 Hp each, my team was pretty solid tbh, that's why I didn't bother that much.
Here i'm trying to dig into the unstoppable mechanic to get how it works ^^

Well I mean each time you hit enemy with it's projectile, 1 layer of that buff gets removed. With upcast magic missile you can remove it almost entirely in a single cast.

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

Originally posted by Kernest:

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

You can deal sneak attack damage even if you're not hiding.
......

Well I should try again, maybe I didn't pay attention and was cliking on the sneak attack with daggers and that could explain the 30+ dmg even if she's on unstoppable, gonna trigger the fight once more to test

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

Originally posted by Kernest:

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

Well, I wasn't sneaking ..

You can deal sneak attack ...

I took some screenshots, here is the first main attack miss :
https://imgur.com/a/RHjxepL
Then it asked for a far realms crit and I triggered it
https://imgur.com/a/7Zbkc84
Then on last picture you can see "5" + "6" output of the main attack, while unstoppable goes down to 9 (text output on the right) :
https://imgur.com/a/RErziD5

Any thoughts on this ? It wasn't sneak attack then

[Kernest]

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

Any thoughts on this ? It wasn't sneak attack then

My only thought is I can barely see a thing out of those pictures on my phone.

So who knows.

[SUKONBU'S RAGE]

Originally posted by Kernest:

Originally posted by SUKONBU'S RAGE:

Any thoughts on...

My only thought

Yeah haha, I'm just gonna place a bet on the fact it's a random bug, because I produce more "1" "1" "1" than higher values so...