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Karlach should have been Trans
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say
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Origineel geplaatst door barakehforever:
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say
let her be the mindflyer in the end, so u got your transchar otherwise u need to understand our politics should not take a dip into a middleage fantasy setting.
Origineel geplaatst door Jltaylor122:
Amazingly this game has a character creation to where you can just make her a dude if that is your flavor of choice and you can even put a penis on her/him or whatever you want it to be.

Unfortunately the character customiser is off limits for Origin characters... unless you install a mod to allow it (as I did), or if you want an FtM companion there's genital swap mods for all the women bar Minratha on Nexus Mods.


In terms of who would be the best of the companions to have been trans Karlach is pretty low on the list due to falling into a couple of stereotypes and being too dang obvious (oh, you're telling me that the big broad shouldered woman was AMAB?). Personally I put Shadowheart and Gale at the top of the list, partially due to them being religious (which isn't exclusionary with being trans), Shadowheart being the most feminine of the women, and Gale's gender identity being implicitly accepted by his ex.

You can argue if any of them should have been trans (stats argue it's unlikely, but stats also argue that we wouldn't have three white characters among the origins, so I find that uncompelling), but those are the two I'd have picked. The reason why nobody is is probably, as was buried in the thread I tried to start on this subject, is because the developers are probably overwhelming cis and it didn't occur to them.


As to Karlach not acting like she's from a medieval setting, the Realms aren't medieval. They're bare renaissance despite having mostly equivalent technology, it's just not as well explored as it is in settings like Eberron.
Origineel geplaatst door JennyTheGhoul:
Origineel geplaatst door PK_Thunder:
I fail to see how a meaty, aggressive, poorly written woman would be improved by making her a dude.

Poorly written? You mean not feminine? News flash, not all women act like docile housewives. She talks and acts like a soldier because she was a soldier. Weird, right?

But, seriously, what about her makes you say she's poorly written other than the fact you don't like "meaty, aggressive" women?

Astarion: I have been turned into a vampire against my will.
Gale: I could blow up the continent at any moment.
Karlach: I say "♥♥♥♥" a lot
Origineel geplaatst door Jltaylor122:
Amazingly this game has a character creation to where you can just make her a dude if that is your flavor of choice and you can even put a penis on her/him or whatever you want it to be.
You can't edit origin characters in this game. I could in Original Sin 2, at least I remember being able to, but not BG3.
Origineel geplaatst door barakehforever:
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say
Thanks, I hadn't blocked anyone today. Met my quota.
Origineel geplaatst door barakehforever:
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say
but wouldnt that perpetuate the status que that all trans mtf are hyper masculine? it would seem like an odd statement for larian to make
Origineel geplaatst door barakehforever:
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say

Seriously?
Why should she have been trans?
She is not a male, wanting to be a female, nor a Female wanting the opposite.
She is a 'tomboy' hardened warrior, whom had been used and abused by a fallen Angel.

What does any of that have to do with being or wanting to be trans?
Ppl have a talent necro'ing threads. Karlach is fine the way she is.
Origineel geplaatst door WildOrchid:
Ppl have a talent necro'ing threads. Karlach is fine the way she is.
As much of a talent as those two annoying Death Shepherds raising one another and their ghouls. :D
Origineel geplaatst door The 13th Ghost Bunny:
Origineel geplaatst door WildOrchid:
Ppl have a talent necro'ing threads. Karlach is fine the way she is.
As much of a talent as those two annoying Death Shepherds raising one another and their ghouls. :D

I'd say pretty close because there have been people necro'ing threads from 2020. Imagine.
Origineel geplaatst door lordfadooboo:
Origineel geplaatst door barakehforever:
Why not? it would have been amazing, revolutionary I'd say
but wouldnt that perpetuate the status que that all trans mtf are hyper masculine? it would seem like an odd statement for larian to make
Exactly. This kind of thing is why the "This character should be trans." thing needs to die. The only characters who should be trans are the ones who are trans or were implied to be. If Larian implied Karlach was trans & then copped out Japan-style to avoid committing to the portrayal, that would be the only excuse for complaining that she's not trans.

A character should be trans because the writers felt like making a character trans or because they had a story they wanted to tell involving a trans character. Same for making a character a cis female or male.
Origineel geplaatst door Fangrilo:
Origineel geplaatst door JennyTheGhoul:

Poorly written? You mean not feminine? News flash, not all women act like docile housewives. She talks and acts like a soldier because she was a soldier. Weird, right?

But, seriously, what about her makes you say she's poorly written other than the fact you don't like "meaty, aggressive" women?

Astarion: I have been turned into a vampire against my will.
Gale: I could blow up the continent at any moment.
Karlach: I say "♥♥♥♥" a lot

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but just in case thats what you really think, you are simply factually wrong. It actually at first kinda hated most companions cause they were kinda of a-holes, like astarion constantly disapproving of anything thats not selfish at first and is always sassier than sas. Yet they grow on you, like hemorrhoids and now I like them.

That aside, astarion deals with his trauma by being how he is, gale can blow up the continent and he deals with it in his own way and less obnoxious way. Karlach don't just say Fk a lot, she been betrayed as a kid and sold into demon army with her heart being replaced by infernal engine that burns so hot that it forces her to be an incel (sort of). She can't touch anyone, frustrated, and then once she gets a little reprieve, she is told it's temp and she got to go back to hell or die. If I had to deal with that, I would say FK even more than I do already and all I got to deal with now are bills.
Origineel geplaatst door Mister Sir:
Origineel geplaatst door Fangrilo:

Astarion: I have been turned into a vampire against my will.
Gale: I could blow up the continent at any moment.
Karlach: I say "♥♥♥♥" a lot

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but just in case thats what you really think, you are simply factually wrong. It actually at first kinda hated most companions cause they were kinda of a-holes, like astarion constantly disapproving of anything thats not selfish at first and is always sassier than sas. Yet they grow on you, like hemorrhoids and now I like them.

That aside, astarion deals with his trauma by being how he is, gale can blow up the continent and he deals with it in his own way and less obnoxious way. Karlach don't just say Fk a lot, she been betrayed as a kid and sold into demon army with her heart being replaced by infernal engine that burns so hot that it forces her to be an incel (sort of). She can't touch anyone, frustrated, and then once she gets a little reprieve, she is told it's temp and she got to go back to hell or die. If I had to deal with that, I would say FK even more than I do already and all I got to deal with now are bills.

That is indeed why people have bucket lists when they know they're likely going to die in the next year or so. (i.e terminal illnesses, which is basically Karlach's Infernal Engine if she doesn't return to Avernus)
Laatst bewerkt door Narky; 2 okt 2023 om 16:25
Origineel geplaatst door Frost:
Origineel geplaatst door Mister Sir:
Dude... I hate throwing this shade but it legit sometimes feels like some people on this forum do not speak to girls much in real life. I am pretty sick of woke garbage myself, mainly cause it's fighting ghosts, but I also wont just hate a game or label it woke just cause it might have a few gay couples or a girl might not act like what some believe all girls suppose to be.

Karlach is a pretty standard bro type of chick and that does not make her a trans of gay. Not all girls twirl in dresses with flowers in their hair. Some girls hangout with guys, are more upbeat, watch sports, and so on.

What people are also missing is that this is Mfking DnD, and these origin characters are all playable. When you play those games you don't play yourself, even if you wanna pretend like you do when you make edgy @ss character thats too cool for school, in truth, thats not you. So why is it so surprising that some girl would wanna play a female character thats completely opposite of her, a character like Karlach? I do think this is why she is in the game, cause it's a game for everyone and it don't try to make anyone feel bad. Now this is type of equality and diversity I like seeing, not trying to ♥♥♥♥ on one another for being white, black, gay or wtf else ever.

Exactly. It honestly feels like people want a bunch of samey, typical type companions. Basically what you’d see from an actual dating sim.

All of the companions in this game are unique, designed to appeal to many different types of people. I think that’s great.

It is great and it shows that it can be done tastefully. I know this might be out of the left field but this right here is way better than what show runners and film makers been doing, where they take white character, make them black, pat themselves on the back, then curse at fans for being "racist" just because they question why half the Percy Jacksons show cast been race swapped.

Where I am getting with that is this type of thing been going on for a while and became an infection. It's where group of people cares so much for their ideology that they went a bit too far and now garnered a group of people that will hate anything that even vaguely hints at a connection to that ideology.

While to me this game shows that you can write different and diverse characters without sniffing your own farts or basing it all around the "message". I actually did not like a lot of characters at the start of the game, they all felt very hostile, uppity, or rude at first, so when I found Karlach and Wyll and she was just nice right away, I was kinda relieved. Of course the rest of the cast then became very relatable and likable as well but it just goes to show that they are not cardboard cut outs like many of the characters in media are, they are all different people with different personalities.
Origineel geplaatst door Black Magic:
Origineel geplaatst door Mister Sir:

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic or not, but just in case thats what you really think, you are simply factually wrong. It actually at first kinda hated most companions cause they were kinda of a-holes, like astarion constantly disapproving of anything thats not selfish at first and is always sassier than sas. Yet they grow on you, like hemorrhoids and now I like them.

That aside, astarion deals with his trauma by being how he is, gale can blow up the continent and he deals with it in his own way and less obnoxious way. Karlach don't just say Fk a lot, she been betrayed as a kid and sold into demon army with her heart being replaced by infernal engine that burns so hot that it forces her to be an incel (sort of). She can't touch anyone, frustrated, and then once she gets a little reprieve, she is told it's temp and she got to go back to hell or die. If I had to deal with that, I would say FK even more than I do already and all I got to deal with now are bills.

That is indeed why people have bucket lists when they know they're likely going to die in the next year or so. (i.e terminal illnesses, which is basically Karlach's Infernal Engine if she doesn't return to Avernus)
I like buckets, they were my trusty ally in Skyrim.
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