Best Cantrips / spell for Astarion Rogue (Assassin)?

[Dave the Spooder]

My main character right now is Astarion with a Rogue Class, it's so difficult to Gain an advantage over the enemies to deal max damage, anyone know the best spell that I can use to always vain advantage?

Invisibility cool down is on Long Rest and the rest of my skills are just 12% chance of success.

[Angel]

I think the best thing to do is make sure you are using a weapon that you have proficiency with to increase that hit chance

[Chiffa]

There is a ring sold by the vendor in Moonrise Towers that gives you permanent advantage on attacks, but disadvantage on saves. Easily the best item for a rogue.

[Moffin Bovin]

you don't need advantage to sneak attack. just have someone else in melee range. If no one else is in melee range then just use a bow, press shift to see vision cones, stealth as a bonus action and shoot with advantage.

Although, if you have a feat to spare (rogues get extra feats), the spell sniper feat lets you get eldritch blast. Which is better than a bow since it shoots 3 times.

if you get a ring that makes you immune to blind in act 2 then you can combo it with a cape that gives you a mini fog cloud on disengage and that will give you advantage for a bonus action as well.

[lawjax]

Are you hiding with Astarion before and after you make your attacks? The reason why Rogue Thief is often taken over Rogue Assassin is because the Thief subclass gains an extra bonus action, which means you can effectively dash, hide, and perhaps throw in the odd jump every turn for your Rogue to become a highly mobile force. Attacking while hidden is the usual way a Rogue gains advantage over enemies.

As far as spells are concerned, I may recommend the Enhance Jump/Movement ones as a highly mobile Rogue is the best kind (my personal experience) since even if the Rogue is at risk of being seen you may be able to maneuver the Rogue out of range.

As far as item accommodations are concerned, if you happen to be playing as Dark Urge there is a cloak you will surely acquire fairly early on that is a worthwhile item to bestow unto your Rogue.

[Mystified]

Yeah there are spells that give advantage, a few being Faerie Fire, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, and Hold Person. Certain classes have the ability to give advantage when they attack like Barbarian (not sure if only they get it or if everyone does). Anything that knocks someone prone should give advantage.

As the previous post said, always check your equipment (I made that mistake earlier and was using what I thought was a light crossbow and it was heavy).

[Dave the Spooder]

Thanks for the replies guys
I'm using all of the proficient arsenals, currently I'm using Shorts word of first blood and Sussur Dagger.

It's pretty difficult to preemptive sneak attack since I need to control Astarion alone to do it, apperantly when I'm with a partner, they won't sneak at the same time unless I'll do it manually, which usually forgot to do haha.

[THANKS OBAMA]

A dip into bard or taking the feat to get access to bard spells, using one of the rings you can use an illusion or enchantment spell for a bonus action after making a weapon attack.

Use Vicious mockery.

[6h0$t942]

There are many ways to get advantage. The easiest is for an enemy to be threatened in melee range by another character. Prone, hold person, frightened?, dazed?, blinded, frozen(not easy to have happen, and acutally really annoying when it does)
Your best spell is the Stabbing spell, with the second best being the Summon Hand Crossbow spell.

[PK_Thunder]

If you're going to be an assassin then spells with attack rolls can still benefit from crits.

That said I'd say screw the spells and go Gloomstalker for the improved benefits of ambush.

[Kernest]

Originally posted by Velcudez:

It's pretty difficult to preemptive sneak attack since I need to control Astarion alone to do it, apperantly when I'm with a partner, they won't sneak at the same time unless I'll do it manually, which usually forgot to do haha.

Shift+C, or there is a "group hide" button somewhere on the task bar.

Though even so you should probably leave everyone else behind a corner or something, umgroup and go start the fight with Astarion.

[game-dev]

How Assassin works well:

Get the alert feat (basically always makes you the first to attack and never surprised).

Constantly sneak attack people while they are weakened by things (prone, stunned, etc). You don't need to sneak or anything while they are in that state, So keep trying to use sneak attack whenever you can, You'll be surprised how often it can be used outside of sneak.

Use the bonus action that rogues get to sneak before you sneak attack when you need to (usually only happens when nobody can be sneak attacked, which is rare).

Don't need anything beyond that.

As for your low hit chance:

Can't really speak to your 12% attack chance without more info. That's not normal. Sounds sort of like you are trying to attack with ranged up close, or range attacking someone on higher ground from outside of your ranged attack's normal effective distance.

If the latter is the case then try the sharpshooter feat. You'll have much less of a problem shooting up after that, and more damage too. Slight reduction to your overall hit chance but huge gain for your hit chance shooting up.

I would definitely keep an eye on your ranged weapon's effective range more too.

[THANKS OBAMA]

Minor Illusion, cast it before stealth if trying to kill something that isn't aggressive upon sight of you, or cast it during stealth a decent enough distance away from the target to draw it alone towards it.

Aside from that.

The summon familiar spell to summon Shovel.

Just leave her invisible but beside the target so you can move during your turn, go back into stealth, and then shoot it to gain sneak attack bonus.

[PotHound]

The stealth is tricky since it's turn-based and locks you out in combat. It takes patience to get it. I found that you can use a familiar cat and separate it from your party but summon it away from your group. It puts all the enemies in combat, but you are free to move once your party is still hiding properly. The cat's meow can also turn heads away from any direction. Another thing for stealth do not end turns straight away if your full party is not engaged. Using a high stealth rogue to sneak attack first can grant surprise, allowing you to have an extra turn to attack before getting fully engaged. Familiars make good scouts and flying ones can help plan routes and locate enemies. I'm playing Shadowheart as a rogue/ trickster cleric so I also have invoked duplicity for adv. Sneak attack melee takes too much time to setup up properly, get a strong bow for sneak attacks out of combat and like the others said, setup tankier members positions to grant adv and the ilittid power luck of the far realms gives up a auto crit on a normal hit once per long rest so you can save that for tankier mobs. Putting them to sleep also gives a crit I think and hold person gives a crit as well. Then also use poison and other add ons. Also you can use the turn based mode to 'freeze enemies if they are gonna see you, but you'd be able to move out the way, then turn it back off.

[Dave the Spooder]

Thank you for the reply guys
You all have been very helpful

I've played Divinity Original Sins 2, and i thought the "Rogue" Class would be the same,
i was wrong, it was more difficult in BG3 than DOS2. I Don't take any projectiles spells and anything bow or ranged related for astarion because i was roleplaying as a stabby-stabby assassins (i love it on DOS2, it's great).

i do have a Warlock Wyll that do such thing, he's done a great addition to my party for AOE Attacks and Fire Elemental Spells, and also the Eldritch Blast that people are talking about.

Apparently it was more difficult to do any significance damage (if i compare it to my Fighter Build like Lae' Zel).

For Astarion, im not talking about 12% Hit Chance for Normal Attacks, i'm talking about spells like Hideous Laughter, or Hold Person, though don't worry, i found the root of the problem, it's because i have not invested a lot on wisdom haha my bad.

[Kernest]

Originally posted by Velcudez:

For Astarion, im not talking about 12% Hit Chance for Normal Attacks, i'm talking about spells like Hideous Laughter, or Hold Person, though don't worry, i found the root of the problem, it's because i have not invested a lot on wisdom haha my bad.

Umm...

If you're an Arcane Trickster, your spellcasting stat is INT, not WIS.

Those spells you mention are Wisdom Saves, but that means the enemy's Wisdom, as in the worse their WIS score is, the higher your success chance is.