Dark justicier Shadowheart best class?

[victorvnv]

So as she becomes Shars chosen , Shadowheart gets a full set of darkness based items , immunity to blindness , can teleport to shadows etc.

Thing is none of these items seems to be any good for a trickery domain cleric .

She isn’t really good in mele , doesn’t have sneak attacks and only has one attack per turn.

I’m looking for a build that makes the most use of the set as it’s really powerful on paper

Any ideas ?

[Stormsong]

The problem isn't the items, it's Trickery Domain cleric. Even another subclass of Cleric and a correction of her stats will see a marked improvement in her performance. So many of the meme problems with shadowheart (not saying you're memeing here) come from people leaving her in that garbage tier domain.

[Moonbane]

tbh, i think theres much better items later on to get attached to poorly itemized rewards for a cleric.

The best i can suggest is respec to assassin rogue with medium armor proficiency feat traited.

Edit: Forgot helves gets shield for free, so thats one less feat needed.

[The1Kobra]

Well, trickery domain is terrible so you probably want to respec her domain.
I've tried two playthroughs, one with the Light domain, one with the War domain.
Light domain gets better damage on cantrips, some decent offensive spells (fireball, etc), but the big thing is the infinite warding flares, which can turn hits on your party to misses, which is quite valuable.
War domain is interesting. She'll get martial weapons proficiency so be sure to get one of the caster-stat weapons like the Sylvan Scimitar or Infernal Rapier. You can get multiple attacks there but it does take war priest charges, so won't be able to do that forever. Still, as long as you manage your spellslots and warpriest charges well, it should work nicely.

Thematically at least, I respecced her to War Domain on becoming a Dark Justicar, and on the other playthrough, respecced to light domain when she abandoned Shar. In case that matters to you.

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

The problem isn't the items, it's Trickery Domain cleric. Even another subclass of Cleric and a correction of her stats will see a marked improvement in her performance. So many of the meme problems with shadowheart (not saying you're memeing here) come from people leaving her in that garbage tier domain.

Yes, i concur that trickery is awful. And while it thematic for Shar, the performance is abyssmal compared to the other choices. Light outperforms it so badly.

[Dr. Medic]

War Domain or Paladin

[victorvnv]

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

The problem isn't the items, it's Trickery Domain cleric. Even another subclass of Cleric and a correction of her stats will see a marked improvement in her performance. So many of the meme problems with shadowheart (not saying you're memeing here) come from people leaving her in that garbage tier domain.

Oh I never leave her in the domain I usually make her tempest cleric/ sorcerer but the dark justicier set seems to be made for some dark paladin/ warrior build as it favors mele attacks so doesn’t feel anything that any cleric can benefit for.


I’m looking for a build, any build that would specifically benefit from using the set

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Originally posted by Stormsong the Fallen:

The problem isn't the items, it's Trickery Domain cleric. Even another subclass of Cleric and a correction of her stats will see a marked improvement in her performance. So many of the meme problems with shadowheart (not saying you're memeing here) come from people leaving her in that garbage tier domain.

Oh I never leave her in the domain I usually make her tempest cleric/ sorcerer but the dark justicier set seems to be made for some dark paladin/ warrior build as it favors mele attacks so doesn’t feel anything that any cleric can benefit for.


I’m looking for a build, any build that would specifically benefit from using the set

As I said, rogue. Dont forget you can feat-trait to use different armors. The shar armor is all about hiding in darkness and getting stronger from it for improved happystabbyness. So you might as well go all out sneak attack to benefit from hiding.
Then you might as well respec Astarion to necromancer wizard, and changing Gale to a knowledge cleric of Mystra to retain thief, caster and healer roles in party.

[KasparL]

life domain for support, tempest for magic, war for physical damage
i tried trickery so hard but it seems to be pointless

[Moonbane]

Keep gravitating towards light for offensive holy spellcasting. Warding flare is just too yummy. Plus the tempest spells doesnt seem all that impressive.

[Dagný]

Paladin or fighter

[Prinny𖤐Wesker]

A bit off topic but if anyone looking at this wants a thematic class for a Selunite Shadowheart, flavor wise the tempest domain's divine strike is really similar to how the old silverhand cleric's moonhand weapon worked. You know just fyi I guess

[The1Kobra]

You could also if you wanted to, go War Domain Cleric 7 and Paladin 5. Only Oath that really fits Shar's domain is the Oath of Vengeance though, even then it's a stretch.
Still, that'll get you 9 levels of spellslots and smites with them, and the extra attack from paladin. Probably not the strongest build but it should function. With warpriest charges you can get 3 attacks per round at least.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by The1Kobra:

Thematically at least, I respecced her to War Domain on becoming a Dark Justicar, and on the other playthrough, respecced to light domain when she abandoned Shar. In case that matters to you.

H'uh, i never considered re-speccing her into war domain. i WAS feeling disappointing that she didn't get two attacks in combat, so if war domain clears that up, then that'd be fun. Might need to give that a shot.

Just a shame you can't JUST re-spec the domain, and need to re-do the entire character from the ground up.

[The1Kobra]

Originally posted by TamTroll:

Originally posted by The1Kobra:

Thematically at least, I respecced her to War Domain on becoming a Dark Justicar, and on the other playthrough, respecced to light domain when she abandoned Shar. In case that matters to you.

H'uh, i never considered re-speccing her into war domain. i WAS feeling disappointing that she didn't get two attacks in combat, so if war domain clears that up, then that'd be fun. Might need to give that a shot.

Just a shame you can't JUST re-spec the domain, and need to re-do the entire character from the ground up.

Just an FYI, with war domain, you'll get an extra 1d8 damage once a turn on a physical hit. To get an extra attack using the bonus action, you need to use a war priest charge, but you only get so many war priest charges per day. It should be enough to get you through the rough fights, but it is something you'll need to work with.

[JimmysTheBestCop]

I respecced her into berserker thief cause to hell with her background