Two hands rapier??

[Doido]

Since when is a rapier a two-handed weapon? This is wrong. It should be possible to use a rapier with another weapon in the off hand, even if it is a short weapon, such as a short sword or dagger.

[Sister of Silence]

It's not two-handed but it's not light either if I recall correctly. You need two light weapons to dual wield without the skill afaik.

[FoxFox]

it is one-handed, unless last patch was bugged

[Nattfare]

It is one handed, but you need the dual-wield feat to use an off-hand weapon with it.

[Quacksalber]

Yeah, this confused me too. I think it's because they are considered to be duelling swords.

[Eternal President Uncle Slam]

Its not two handed is it? I think its just not "light" so you cannot dual wield it without the correct feat.

[marmih]

it IS one-handed, but it's not a light weapon like a dagger or a shortsword. you can have a shield with your rapier. if you want to have another weapon on your off-hand with the rapier, you will need to get the two weapon fighting feat. as it should be.

[Doido]

For those who are saying that it is not easy to use without the talent of two hands, think about the following:
a scimitar is used in one hand and with another weapon together without having the talent.
If you look for a scimitar you will see that it weighs more or less 1.5kg (2 pounds) and a rapier only 1 kg. So, by this logic, it was supposed to not be possible to use a scimitar with one hand and a weapon in the other without the talent.
This is a mistake by Larian

[Kernest]

Originally posted by marmih:

it IS one-handed, but it's not a light weapon like a dagger or a shortsword. you can have a shield with your rapier. if you want to have another weapon on your off-hand with the rapier, you will need to get the two weapon fighting feat. as it should be.

*the Dual-Wielder Feat.

Two-Weapon Fighting style just lets you add your STR/DEX score to the damage of an off-hand attack.

[Kernest]

Originally posted by Doido:

This is a mistake by Larian

No, it's pretty much exactly the same as DnD 5e...

[wendigo211]

It's not so much about weight as it is length. A rapier is long, longer than a longsword on average (about 1.2m, vs. 1.1m). It's really awkward trying to fight with two of those things. Granted the D&D rapier is really a small sword (0.8m in length).

Scimitar includes a large range of weapons, really any sword with a curved edge. But I think the D&D scimitar is something like the Yatagan or Talwar, which are fairly short.

[penny dreadful]

Originally posted by Doido:

For those who are saying that it is not easy to use without the talent of two hands, think about the following:
a scimitar is used in one hand and with another weapon together without having the talent.
If you look for a scimitar you will see that it weighs more or less 1.5kg (2 pounds) and a rapier only 1 kg. So, by this logic, it was supposed to not be possible to use a scimitar with one hand and a weapon in the other without the talent.
This is a mistake by Larian

it's to do with the type of weapon it is, not it's actual weight. this is a tabletop rpg system.
you need feats to dual wield them because that's how they work in d&d5e.
this isn't a bug any more than being able to sneak attack without sneaking is

[RealDealBreaker]

Originally posted by Doido:

For those who are saying that it is not easy to use without the talent of two hands, think about the following:
a scimitar is used in one hand and with another weapon together without having the talent.
If you look for a scimitar you will see that it weighs more or less 1.5kg (2 pounds) and a rapier only 1 kg. So, by this logic, it was supposed to not be possible to use a scimitar with one hand and a weapon in the other without the talent.
This is a mistake by Larian

In d&d 5e, "light" is property and is used to determine rules interactions. "Light" does not necessarily refer to the weight of the weapon. So ignore the weight of the weapons. The 5e rule for dual wielding is that both weapons must have the light property unless the character has the dual wielder feat which lets any non-twohanded weapon(s) be dual wielded.

[Doido]

I think they must be confusing a rapier with some other weapon, but it is certainly possible to fight with a rapier in one hand and another weapon in the other.
The rapier is, in essence, a weapon for stabbing. To pierce.
It is thin, most of the time, it is not possible for it to be too heavy to hold in one hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-Eavk0cOQ

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Doido:

Since when is a rapier a two-handed weapon? This is wrong. It should be possible to use a rapier with another weapon in the off hand, even if it is a short weapon, such as a short sword or dagger.

In D&D rules if you want to dual-wield both weapons need to have the "light" feature. Short swords and daggers are light weapons.

You'll need a feat to dual-wield regular weapons, like rapiers.

[deadsanta]

Originally posted by Doido:

Since when is a rapier a two-handed weapon? This is wrong. It should be possible to use a rapier with another weapon in the off hand, even if it is a short weapon, such as a short sword or dagger.

Forget what your sympathetic gf has been telling you all along: Length *absolutely* matters. In order to dual wield a 3 1/2 foot long dueling sword (which this rapier is absolutely based on) you're gonna need a specific skill set. Which is Dual-Wielding. Tada, now you can swing a couple longswords around like an idiot in a fantasy novel! Which is what this is, basically.

5e rules, hate on DnD not Larian.