I find it quite ironic or hypocritical maybe?

[Scorpio]

That so many japanese games are named "oversexualised" when BG3 is quite possibly the horniest game I have seen in 10 years. Everyone wants to sleep with you after 2 lines of dialogue. I find it quite exhausting to see that you can't make friends in this game as everyone will want to get into your pants. I find it uncomfortable how horny and desperate all NPCs are, it is weirding me out.
Somehow it is ok tho and it is not cancelled on twitter because it's "inclusive" and you get approached by both genders? How curious. If Nier Automata had this level of sexual activity it absolutely would be, more than already is for having attractive protagonist.

[Razzen]

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

Nguyên văn bởi Razzen:

Wasn't Disco Elysium made by a studio that had a portrait of Lenin (I forgot which) in their office? I won't take anything they write seriously.

they took my comment :( it only exists as your quote now

Do not worry, I shall keep your comment safe.

[El Pollo Loco]

Nguyên văn bởi Razzen:

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

they took my comment :( it only exists as your quote now

Do not worry, I shall keep your comment safe.

Thank you sir. You are a scholar, and a gentleman. Or a distinguished lady.

[Razzen]

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

Nguyên văn bởi Razzen:

Do not worry, I shall keep your comment safe.

Thank you sir. You are a scholar, and a gentleman. Or a distinguished lady.

I'm obviously a guy, women don't exist on the internet. Everyone who claims to be a woman should be immediately reported for false information and possibly stolen identity.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Nguyên văn bởi Razzen:

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

Thank you sir. You are a scholar, and a gentleman. Or a distinguished lady.

I'm obviously a guy, women don't exist on the internet. Everyone who claims to be a woman should be immediately reported for false information and possibly stolen identity.

Yeah we women don't actually exist. It's been five years since the accident
You need to wake up

[Andi]

when nier came out it suffered a lot of controversy too. mainly the feminists crying "sexual objectification of women". there are double standards in play here. half naked gay characters = gay people existing. half naked women = sexual objectification. everything that appeals to straight men they find offensive. it's just how it is.

[El Pollo Loco]

Nguyên văn bởi The_Dipl0mat:

Nguyên văn bởi Razzen:

I'm obviously a guy, women don't exist on the internet. Everyone who claims to be a woman should be immediately reported for false information and possibly stolen identity.

Yeah we women don't actually exist. It's been five years since the accident
You need to wake up

The woosh levels are off the charts here. Either a gargantuan woosh over your head, or even bigger over mine, because I can't tell if you're being very unfunny with your sarcasm, or possibly if you're being sarcastically sarcastically unfunny.

Not to mention the next guy, or woman, who will not be able to tell if I am just having sarcastic redundant rant, or if the very sarcastic redundant rant is itself conceived sarcastically.

By god, we need to nip this at the bud.

[Andi]

Nguyên văn bởi The_Dipl0mat:

Nguyên văn bởi Genevir:

Yeah this game is made for horny people. They put all the effort that should've went into making an actually good story into cringe hooker romance and woke garbage

A'ight kiddos settle down, I'ze got a story

You think this game is made for horny people? The game with extremely soft core sex scenes (aside from Minthara, jesus), that result in fade to blacks

You wouldn't know a game meant for horny people if a 15 inch schlong schmaked you in the face. A game meant for horny people would have so much more sexual content that I feel like if I go too in depth into I could get banned for? But eh
For example, it'd have O meters, dialogue options to say during the act, or which positions you're taking. Combat would be massively reduced to result in the most potential for sexual encounters. You merely think it's exclusively horny due to it being one of the only triple A games out at the moment that has any sexual content in general

bg3 is not a porn game but gives the illusion that it is one because of the horny companions. the complaints won't die down until they implement a romance/sex toggle.

[Xrystus]

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

I understand your perspective. I think it maybe just seems exaggerated because around the act 1 party you have this big event, by now, most companions like you, and at this point, you're supposed to choose who to romance, if anyone.
But because it's all at one time, and they bring it up to you, it plays off a bit weird.
I don't know your experiences and your mindset so I don't know how uncomfortable this is for you, but I understand it. However, I can't quite see how it is the end of the world to reject them, and then be friends with them. They don't keep trying to rape you for the rest of the game, or sulk about it, not in my experience.

Oh, no it isn't exaggerated. Kinda wish it was. Doing some more digging, the devs did in fact design the companions to be "thirsty" (their words, not mine). Gale was also bugged for a while where "no" answers never registered with him. The devs also changed some of the text on the romance options in an attempt to make them more clear that they are meant to start a relationship. It cannot be exaggerated when it is literally coded and designed into the game and the devs admit to it.
My descriptions about what the companions did are extremely on point, with the only one I don't think I 100% properly condensed was Halsin:
-Astarion gives his reaction of you staying around with obvious hints of "bed me" happened on first or second long rest. It was the second long rest for me.
-Lae'zel gives her interaction after the goblin/tiefling conflict. The first time was immediately afterwards, the farthest was when I clicked on her by accident at the creche.
-Gale gave his just before I dealt with the goblin/tiefling conflict. I, like may others, did not see this as a "romance" option but as him possibly teaching my character some magic. As soon as he started getting too close, I immediately saw how people described his romance options as "traps" and the reason for the clarification patches from the devs.
-Halsin had his trap interaction just after the defeat of the Act II boss (trying to avoid story spoilers). He was happy of the accomplishments but acted sad that he did not "find someone". Of course this seemed innocent, so I asked who, and he gave my character the "bed me eyes". I gave myself a headache from how hard I rolled my eyes and loaded a save and fought the Act II boss again just to avoid it.
If you're talking about the forum interactions, then you have to be pretty willfully ignorant. That is not an insult, but a clear statement because the forums are very vitriolic when it comes to their counter arguments. There is already some of those types of replies in this very discussion.
Again, the relationships and the interactions are officially coded and designed into the game with the devs admitting to it. Due to this, I find any person saying they have never seen these interactions to be either liars or strict combat junkies who ignore the roleplaying element altogether.

[Poe the Red]

Nguyên văn bởi The_Dipl0mat:

Nguyên văn bởi The Fool:

Astarion, a bear, and a mindflayer all want to savage you. The hyper-pansexual nonsense is sophomoric and unnecessary, but I'm an adult and can easily ignore it or tell the various characters to piss off. I imagine this sort of stuff must appeal to today's younger gamers. The game is so spectacular that I can easily ignore this stuff.

What I find annoying is that there is no basic AI. If we're all sharing a camp, by the time I've told the third guy who hits on me no, while flirting with Shadowheart the entire time, you would think the other characters would grasp that I was straight.

To be fair, one can assume they're all bi/pansexual. And can perceive you as rejecting others based on your own views of their traits. If a girl rejects you irl, you typically dont think "Oh! She she must be gay then" unless you're one of the weird alpha male people

Huh, I didn't think of it like that. So you're saying that the other guys who continue to hit on me after I rejected the first couple guys might think that I just don't like those particular guys, and that my flirting with only female characters might simply be that I like those particular females, but that I might still be open to bear or mindflayer sex?

That's actually a fairly good point. Evidently, my liberal thinking is now antiquated.

Not sure where you were going with that last sentence. I'd only think she was gay if she rejected multiple guys' advances while only flirting and fooling around with other females, and wouldn't try to flirt or bother her, because I'd assume she wasn't interested. I'm a probability thinker.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Nguyên văn bởi The Fool:

Nguyên văn bởi The_Dipl0mat:

To be fair, one can assume they're all bi/pansexual. And can perceive you as rejecting others based on your own views of their traits. If a girl rejects you irl, you typically dont think "Oh! She she must be gay then" unless you're one of the weird alpha male people

Huh, I didn't think of it like that. So you're saying that the other guys who continue to hit on me after I rejected the first couple guys might think that I just don't like those particular guys, and that my flirting with only female characters might simply be that I like those particular females, but that I might still be open to bear or mindflayer sex?

That's actually a fairly good point. Evidently, my liberal thinking is now antiquated.

Not sure where you were going with that last sentence. I'd only think she was gay if she rejected multiple guys' advances while only flirting and fooling around with other females, and wouldn't try to flirt or bother her, because I'd assume she wasn't interested. I'm a probability thinker.

So you'll have four men in camp to flirt with potentially. Astarion, Gale, Wyll, and Halsin (kinda? He rejects you until act 3)
So we'll boil it down to 3 as the average

Astarion is too self involved to bother talking about your feelings towards him to others "Oh, he rejected me because clearly he has a horrid sense of taste". He's a kinda narcissist

Gale would either be the only one to complain "Woe is me! He hates me" or go on about "Obviously he doesn't know what he's missing out on"

And Wyll is just, well Wyll. Probably go off and be like "Damn that sucks, back to tryin to rizz up Shart and Lae'zel"


Is that a better answer?

[El Pollo Loco]

Nguyên văn bởi Xrystus:

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

I understand your perspective. I think it maybe just seems exaggerated because around the act 1 party you have this big event, by now, most companions like you, and at this point, you're supposed to choose who to romance, if anyone.
But because it's all at one time, and they bring it up to you, it plays off a bit weird.
I don't know your experiences and your mindset so I don't know how uncomfortable this is for you, but I understand it. However, I can't quite see how it is the end of the world to reject them, and then be friends with them. They don't keep trying to rape you for the rest of the game, or sulk about it, not in my experience.

Oh, no it isn't exaggerated. Kinda wish it was. Doing some more digging, the devs did in fact design the companions to be "thirsty" (their words, not mine). Gale was also bugged for a while where "no" answers never registered with him. The devs also changed some of the text on the romance options in an attempt to make them more clear that they are meant to start a relationship. It cannot be exaggerated when it is literally coded and designed into the game and the devs admit to it.
My descriptions about what the companions did are extremely on point, with the only one I don't think I 100% properly condensed was Halsin:
-Astarion gives his reaction of you staying around with obvious hints of "bed me" happened on first or second long rest. It was the second long rest for me.
-Lae'zel gives her interaction after the goblin/tiefling conflict. The first time was immediately afterwards, the farthest was when I clicked on her by accident at the creche.
-Gale gave his just before I dealt with the goblin/tiefling conflict. I, like may others, did not see this as a "romance" option but as him possibly teaching my character some magic. As soon as he started getting too close, I immediately saw how people described his romance options as "traps" and the reason for the clarification patches from the devs.
-Halsin had his trap interaction just after the defeat of the Act II boss (trying to avoid story spoilers). He was happy of the accomplishments but acted sad that he did not "find someone". Of course this seemed innocent, so I asked who, and he gave my character the "bed me eyes". I gave myself a headache from how hard I rolled my eyes and loaded a save and fought the Act II boss again just to avoid it.
If you're talking about the forum interactions, then you have to be pretty willfully ignorant. That is not an insult, but a clear statement because the forums are very vitriolic when it comes to their counter arguments. There is already some of those types of replies in this very discussion.
Again, the relationships and the interactions are officially coded and designed into the game with the devs admitting to it. Due to this, I find any person saying they have never seen these interactions to be either liars or strict combat junkies who ignore the roleplaying element altogether.

Well, if you're gonna be like that, you can go sit on a dildo. I regret ever being polite to you and respecting your perspective, and unlike you, I will not be a coward and imply something, but directly call you a junkie and a liar, all because I have a different experience than you. I am beginning to be quite certain that other people here are actually correct, and you truly are just incredibly soft and can't handle telling someone 'no thanks, I don't want to have sex or romantic relationship with you' once in a 150 hour long game.

I am a DnD veteran and lore lover that could write a 1000 page essay on the lore of any of Larian games from the top of my head, and won't be called a combat junkie by the likes of you.

// Oh and by the way, current playthrough Laezel didn' try to bed me once. I think she might have said something different during party than usual, because it was my first time siding with goblins. I seem to recall she instead commented on that.

And then for the longest time, whenever I spoke to her, an option was there to say 'You've been looking at me differently lately.' and I just didn't click it. It's kind of like in real life, sometimes I notice a girl is flirty with me or seems taken with me, but if I don't feel that way about her, I do not go ask her 'Are you totally into me?' so I can reject her more directly.

But even if I didn't know that's where that option leads, she'd say something along the lines she was wrong about me and noticed me to be an effective leader and worthy combatant, and is attracted to me.

And I would say 'that's cool, but Minthara is 10x better than you, let's break her out of prison' and then I'd continue playing the game.

[El Pollo Loco]

Nguyên văn bởi The_Dipl0mat:

Nguyên văn bởi The Fool:

Huh, I didn't think of it like that. So you're saying that the other guys who continue to hit on me after I rejected the first couple guys might think that I just don't like those particular guys, and that my flirting with only female characters might simply be that I like those particular females, but that I might still be open to bear or mindflayer sex?

That's actually a fairly good point. Evidently, my liberal thinking is now antiquated.

Not sure where you were going with that last sentence. I'd only think she was gay if she rejected multiple guys' advances while only flirting and fooling around with other females, and wouldn't try to flirt or bother her, because I'd assume she wasn't interested. I'm a probability thinker.

So you'll have four men in camp to flirt with potentially. Astarion, Gale, Wyll, and Halsin (kinda? He rejects you until act 3)
So we'll boil it down to 3 as the average

Astarion is too self involved to bother talking about your feelings towards him to others "Oh, he rejected me because clearly he has a horrid sense of taste". He's a kinda narcissist

Gale would either be the only one to complain "Woe is me! He hates me" or go on about "Obviously he doesn't know what he's missing out on"

And Wyll is just, well Wyll. Probably go off and be like "Damn that sucks, back to tryin to rizz up Shart and Lae'zel"


Is that a better answer?

Just want to catch to your last example, Wyll, cause I have that memory quite fresh from my previous playthough.
I was a high-elf lawful good bard, super liked by everyone. I gave all my companions music proficiency, actually useful feats be damned, and we played music for tiefling refugees, and the LLI inhabitants, and actually during every battle. (Playing 'Divinity and Sin' makes every battle feel like DOS:2 final battle).

So anyways, one night I find Wyll dancing near the campfire, waltzing. Practicing. He notices me, and invites me to dance. We have quite fun dancing for a minute, I am of course a magnificent dancer with elven elegance and bardic flourish. When it ends, I politely thank him for the dance, but decline invitation to be more intimate. I have my eyes set on Karlach.
He is a little disappointed for a moment, but politely accepts, and leaves, not sulking or anything.

Is this what people get PTSD over? A gentleman courted me with waltz and politely left after I declined to go further than a dance? Should I upload footage of it to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Or maybe I am just a liar and a combat junkie, as some polite and understanding and not at all narcissistic forum members would call me, right Xrystus?

[Xrystus]

Nguyên văn bởi Σίσυφος:

Nguyên văn bởi Xrystus:

If you're talking about the forum interactions, then you have to be pretty willfully ignorant. That is not an insult, but a clear statement because the forums are very vitriolic when it comes to their counter arguments.

...

Again, the relationships and the interactions are officially coded and designed into the game with the devs admitting to it. Due to this, I find any person saying they have never seen these interactions to be either liars or strict combat junkies who ignore the roleplaying element altogether.

Well, if you're gonna be like that, you can go sit on a dildo. I regret ever being polite to you and respecting your perspective, and unlike you, I will not be a coward and imply something, but directly call you a junkie and a liar, all because I have a different experience than you. I am beginning to be quite certain that other people here are actually correct, and you truly are just incredibly soft and can't handle telling someone 'no thanks, I don't want to have sex or romantic relationship with you' once in a 150 hour long game.

Might wanna hakuna your tatas there. I left the part of my post that you clearly took out of context. I am talking about the FORUM INTERACTIONS. As in this sort of crap:

OP: Wow these companions keep trying to get into a relationship with me, it's kind of immersion breaking.
Replier: OH STOP BEING INSECURE! THE COMPANIONS DO NOT KEEP TRYING TO BED YOU IT NEVER HAPPENS! GROW UP AND STOP BEING A BIGOT!

Again, I am not exaggerating. There are people who are truly saying that the companions DON'T try to come onto you at any point in the game, even though there is proof of the contrary (including from the devs themselves). Usually sprinkled with insults as if it makes their arguments better. I find it hard pressed that someone has NOT ran into at least one of these types of comments, ever.

As for the game interactions, even you yourself just said you saw the interaction coming and chose to avoid it. This is far different than "not happening at all" like some others claim. THOSE people are whom I am claiming to be liars. I find it extremely hard to believe that anyone will have gone through this game and not run into one of those interactions without actively understanding they are there and avoiding them or simply not interacting with them at all somehow through an entire playthrough (aka a combat junkie). They no longer happen in my runs now because I know the interactive structure: Be neutral, negative, dismissive, or non-interactive towards companions else risk a high chance of triggering an unwelcome romance. In fact I avoid all companions completely now except for the sole one I actually want to interact with (if any).

[Ichthyic]

Nguyên văn bởi Scorpio:

Nguyên văn bởi Lonetac:

Interesting, ive had many dialogues with all the companions and nobody has tried to f me. We must be playing different games.

I dont engage in flirtatious responses, sounds like a skill issue tbh.

We really must be since my friends have exact same experience. Saying it is reasonable for character like Astarion or Haslin but rest is wildly horny too for no reason. It feels unnatural and weird I don't know. The game is giving me an ick.

why, oh why... do you clowns feel the ENDLESS NEED to share your "Ick" with the rest of the world? why? WE DON'T CARE. get it? WE DON'T CARE. just keep your ick to yourself, and the world will be a better place. really.

[Scorpio]

Nguyên văn bởi Ichthyic:

Nguyên văn bởi Scorpio:

We really must be since my friends have exact same experience. Saying it is reasonable for character like Astarion or Haslin but rest is wildly horny too for no reason. It feels unnatural and weird I don't know. The game is giving me an ick.

why, oh why... do you clowns feel the ENDLESS NEED to share your "Ick" with the rest of the world? why? WE DON'T CARE. get it? WE DON'T CARE. just keep your ick to yourself, and the world will be a better place. really.

You seem to care a lot for someone who doesn't care. This is a discussion forum, I posted something that I think is worth discussing. Not sure what your issue is here exactly.