Any tips on the 1 hand and shield monk build?

[karakan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNOWTLggypc

is the above still viable? has anyone who tried let me know if there is a way to improve this/make it more fun?


more importantly, is this viable with for example dark urge half orc ?

[Raven]

don't use a shield

[DietDrPibb]

Stop looking at youtube for overhyped super builds and just play the game you will enjoy it more.

[karakan]

Originally posted by DietDrPibb:

Stop looking at youtube for overhyped super builds and just play the game you will enjoy it more.

if youre not knowledgeable enough to give advice then perhaps stop looking at posts asking for help /shrug

[karakan]

Originally posted by Raven:

don't use a shield

because?

[DietDrPibb]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by DietDrPibb:

Stop looking at youtube for overhyped super builds and just play the game you will enjoy it more.

if youre not knowledgeable enough to give advice then perhaps stop looking at posts asking for help /shrug

yeah you are the one looking at clickbait youtube videos, maybe watch a tutorial about how 5e works then just play the game don't ruin it for yourself trying to let someone else make your character so you can be OP it's childish.

[karakan]

Originally posted by DietDrPibb:

Originally posted by Nexures:

if youre not knowledgeable enough to give advice then perhaps stop looking at posts asking for help /shrug

yeah you are the one looking at clickbait youtube videos, maybe watch a tutorial about how 5e works then just play the game don't ruin it for yourself trying to let someone else make your character so you can be OP it's childish.

kek. whats childish is enforcing your ♥♥♥♥ opinion on others. if you want me to play your way send me 50 quid on paypal for the game. otherwise leave this topic if youre incapable of contributing to the discussion. cheers !

[Raven]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by Raven:

don't use a shield

because?

Because there is zero point in monk if you do. You take away all your benefits. If you just want to be a regular person because you want a shield, use any other class. That's based on my knowledge of D&D though, I don't know if BG3 made some weird exception, but it shouldn't have

edit: you lose your martial arts bonus, your unarmored bonus, and it affects your unarmored movement speed. If you are going to give up all that, why be a monk?

edit 2: IDK, I looked at that video, aside from the fact it looks like he geared out of monk and just basically built some weird build that shouldn't work, but I guess works because of some weird larian shenanigans, but there really isn't anything that shield is adding that you can't probably do more with from normal monk shenanigans. The majority of the build seems to be its equipment.

TL;DR: I dunno, Larian did something weird here, and I guess if that video works it works. I wouldn't know so I don't have anything useful to add.

[GloriousZote]

Don't.
That's my advice.

[karakan]

Originally posted by Raven:

Originally posted by Nexures:

because?

Because there is zero point in monk if you do. You take away all your benefits. If you just want to be a regular person because you want a shield, use any other class. That's based on my knowledge of D&D though, I don't know if BG3 made some weird exception, but it shouldn't have

edit: you lose your martial arts bonus, your unarmored bonus, and it affects your unarmored movement speed. If you are going to give up all that, why be a monk?

edit 2: IDK, I looked at that video, aside from the fact it looks like he geared out of monk and just basically built some weird build that shouldn't work, but I guess works because of some weird larian shenanigans, but there really isn't anything that shield is adding that you can't probably do more with from normal monk shenanigans. The majority of the build seems to be its equipment.

TL;DR: I dunno, Larian did something weird here, and I guess if that video works it works. I wouldn't know so I don't have anything useful to add.

yeah exactly. at first it makes no sense, but this isnt the only video that does it. plenty of youtubers did that guide and it looks amazing. im not looking for a dumb cheese op build but just a good one. the ones i see online focus too much on race. where as this one specifically, and many others on yt for htat matter dont and they still look better than all the online guides.

i like how you commented a bunch before seeing the video haha :D its crazy isnt it? why the hell would shield work makes no sense. yet it does

[Raven]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by Raven:

Because there is zero point in monk if you do. You take away all your benefits. If you just want to be a regular person because you want a shield, use any other class. That's based on my knowledge of D&D though, I don't know if BG3 made some weird exception, but it shouldn't have

edit: you lose your martial arts bonus, your unarmored bonus, and it affects your unarmored movement speed. If you are going to give up all that, why be a monk?

edit 2: IDK, I looked at that video, aside from the fact it looks like he geared out of monk and just basically built some weird build that shouldn't work, but I guess works because of some weird larian shenanigans, but there really isn't anything that shield is adding that you can't probably do more with from normal monk shenanigans. The majority of the build seems to be its equipment.

TL;DR: I dunno, Larian did something weird here, and I guess if that video works it works. I wouldn't know so I don't have anything useful to add.

yeah exactly. at first it makes no sense, but this isnt the only video that does it. plenty of youtubers did that guide and it looks amazing. im not looking for a dumb cheese op build but just a good one. the ones i see online focus too much on race. where as this one specifically, and many others on yt for htat matter dont and they still look better than all the online guides.

i like how you commented a bunch before seeing the video haha :D its crazy isnt it? why the hell would shield work makes no sense. yet it does

In my defense, and probably something to be said about your particular video...it doesn't seem to really work. It's EXTREMELY equipment reliant and that particular guy always has all the items and junk and makes his builds from "perfect", as in he has usually minimal clue of how the build works as it levels. If you try to mimic that build from scratch, you're going to have a hard time

[Dragon Master]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by Raven:

don't use a shield

because?

Because monks are not proficient with shields unless they are a human, half-elf or a multi-class that gives them proficiency.

What that means is you can potentially raise their AC by an additional +2 but lose all monk abilities. No ki points, no flurry of blows, no extra attack as a bonus action.

It's like being a caster wearing armor they are not proficient in. They lose access to all their class abilities.

You also lose your wisdom bonus to your AC because that only is in play if you have no armor at all and shields count as armor.

If you've got 16 wisdom and 16 dex at level 1 you'd be better off without a shield, and if you have 14 wisdom you'd have the same AC as a shield would provide anyway.

[Diomedes]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by Raven:

don't use a shield

because?

Because the monk loses abilities if they use shield or wear armor.. The traditional monk with dex/wisdom can easily have 25+ ac by end game, and with certain items have more hit points than the fighters in your group.

[karakan]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

Originally posted by Nexures:

because?

Because monks are not proficient with shields unless they are a human, half-elf or a multi-class that gives them proficiency.

What that means is you can potentially raise their AC by an additional +2 but lose all monk abilities. No ki points, no flurry of blows, no extra attack as a bonus action.

It's like being a caster wearing armor they are not proficient in. They lose access to all their class abilities.

You also lose your wisdom bonus to your AC because that only is in play if you have no armor at all and shields count as armor.

If you've got 16 wisdom and 16 dex at level 1 you'd be better off without a shield, and if you have 14 wisdom you'd have the same AC as a shield would provide anyway.

yeah not proficient with shields - so if you multiclass early game into fighter you get surge+proficiency. sounds perfect doesnt it ? thats the first point he makes in the vid. it wouldnt work otherwise

and what he says about potions is very true. theres a lot of them minutes within act 1. While true, that the guy in the vid only showcases very late game, you can multiclass early and get proficiencies. once you get em, id say all the problems go away?

[karakan]

Originally posted by Diomedes:

Originally posted by Nexures:

because?

Because the monk loses abilities if they use shield or wear armor.. The traditional monk with dex/wisdom can easily have 25+ ac by end game, and with certain items have more hit points than the fighters in your group.

watch the vid

[invalid ******* name]

The thing about monks and throw barbarians is they are pretty monotonous after a while.

With a fighter or paladin you can change up the weapons, but when you throw things or punch things the weapons don't change much for the entire game.

So whenever I try them it usually only lasts for an act or two before I re-roll as a sorcerer or 10 paladin 2 fighter or a shape-changing druid or really anything with a bit more variety.