Recruit Minthara and save Dammon?

[Craimax Black]

I want to recruit Minthara to see what she can do, and i want to save Dammon to fix Karlach's heart and the armor in act 2, i don't really care about save the thiefling or help the goblins, but for what i know i must do one of them and lose the other, there is a way to have them both? or at least fix Karlach's heart in act 1 so Dammon can die without i care

[Grumpy]

If you recruit Minthara, Karlach will leave.

[Craimax Black]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

If you recruit Minthara, Karlach will leave.

Not exacly, i tried ignoring the problem, i didn't kill the goblins or the tiefling, so Karlach and Wyll wasn't angry, then i get to Moonrise and there she was, but Dammon wasn't in Last Light Inn, so i asume the tiefling and Dammon were killed by the goblin that i didn't kill

[YippeeKai-Yay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NA-fOwXQlo

[Grumpy]

Originally posted by Craimax Black:

Originally posted by Grumpy:

If you recruit Minthara, Karlach will leave.

Not exacly, i tried ignoring the problem, i didn't kill the goblins or the tiefling, so Karlach and Wyll wasn't angry, then i get to Moonrise and there she was, but Dammon wasn't in Last Light Inn, so i asume the tiefling and Dammon were killed by the goblin that i didn't kill

Oh i didn't understand it properly. Yeah the grove has been raided and Minthara is being spanked for not finiding the artefact in it. But i think Dammon needs to repair the infernal engine twice before Karlach can touch you.

[Craimax Black]

Originally posted by Grumpy:

Originally posted by Craimax Black:

Not exacly, i tried ignoring the problem, i didn't kill the goblins or the tiefling, so Karlach and Wyll wasn't angry, then i get to Moonrise and there she was, but Dammon wasn't in Last Light Inn, so i asume the tiefling and Dammon were killed by the goblin that i didn't kill

Oh i didn't understand it properly. Yeah the grove has been raided and Minthara is being spanked for not finiding the artefact in it. But i think Dammon needs to repair the infernal engine twice before Karlach can touch you.

Exacly, Dammon give the first fix in act 1, the second fix is in act 2, and also there he give you the armor, that's why i want him alive there, but appart from that i don't care anymore, him or the tiefling

[Dopeh]

Do the npc team members actually leave when they were not part of team/ but staying in camp when you perform an action they don't agree with?

[Eskuire]

If you want to do both, there's a mod on Nexus called Daughter of Lolth that removes the flag. You get her to half health in the camp, she disappears, and is recruit-able in Moonrise.
But other than that, no. The Tieflings are tied directly to the Goblin Camp sadly.

[butbka]

Originally posted by Dopeh:

Do the npc team members actually leave when they were not part of team/ but staying in camp when you perform an action they don't agree with?

Yes. Jaheira left me when I became choosen of Bhaal. And attacked me on area exit. Became good mummy though.

[Dopeh]

Originally posted by butbka:

Originally posted by Dopeh:

Do the npc team members actually leave when they were not part of team/ but staying in camp when you perform an action they don't agree with?

Yes. Jaheira left me when I became choosen of Bhaal. And attacked me on area exit. Became good mummy though.

cheers , no need to try that then......Jaheira died anyway in my act 2 end fight at the tower.... Somehow she turned hostile on me.... could be a misplaced aoe spell , it was late and since that fight took so long i didn't bother trying it again .....

[nizzemancer]

Just read how you can supposedly cheese this:

Defeat her in non-lethal combat so she's knocked out.

Proceed with the game on the save the tieflings-path until you get to Moonrise tower and get the fast travel point there.

Go back to her and cast polymorph and dominate beast on her so she'll become a sheep that will follow you (as long as the spells are channelled),

bring Sheep-thara to moonrise towers throne room and a cut-scene will start where she is put on trial, argue for her case so she's spared.

Rescue her from the dungeon.

Now you have Minthara without losing out on anyone else.

[Meow]

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

Defeat her in non-lethal combat so she's knocked out.

Proceed with the game on the save the tieflings-path until you get to Moonrise tower and get the fast travel point there.

And after you defeat minthara, you will progress rest of Act 1, Underdark and mountain pass to moonrise towers without any long rest? Because if you cannot read, knocked out status says: "Knocked out (will disappear permanently after long rest)".
NPC knocked out by non-lethal combat ARE CONSIDERED DEAD by the game.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055456671

Did you even do it yourself? Because you are recommending them to use 2 Level 4 spells, both concentration spells, one lasting 5 turns and other lasting 10 turns, that you get access on Level 7, which is reachable only at the end of Act 1 doing everything and getting every possible XP...

In addition to that, Polymorph does not revert Knocked out status per DnD rules and in BG3, so I am calling your advice ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
How do I know that? Went to the game, knocked out person, casted polymorph on them and behold, they were still knocked out.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055482379

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

Now you have Minthara without losing out on anyone else.

Without loosing anyone else - companion wise, but you have no thieflings.

[nizzemancer]

Originally posted by Meow:

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

Defeat her in non-lethal combat so she's knocked out.

Proceed with the game on the save the tieflings-path until you get to Moonrise tower and get the fast travel point there.

And after you defeat minthara, you will progress rest of Act 1, Underdark and mountain pass to moonrise towers without any long rest? Because if you cannot read, knocked out status says: "Knocked out (will disappear permanently after long rest)".
NPC knocked out by non-lethal combat ARE CONSIDERED DEAD by the game.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055456671

Did you even do it yourself? Because you are recommending them to use 2 Level 4 spells, both concentration spells, one lasting 5 turns and other lasting 10 turns, that you get access on Level 7, which is reachable only at the end of Act 1 doing everything and getting every possible XP...

In addition to that, Polymorph does not revert Knocked out status per DnD rules and in BG3, so I am calling your advice ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
How do I know that? Went to the game, knocked out person, casted polymorph on them and behold, they were still knocked out.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3055482379

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

Now you have Minthara without losing out on anyone else.

Without loosing anyone else - companion wise, but you have no thieflings.

I'm not recommending anything I'm just saying I read about it. Take a chill pill.

[Psy^]

Originally posted by Craimax Black:

Originally posted by Grumpy:

If you recruit Minthara, Karlach will leave.

Not exacly, i tried ignoring the problem, i didn't kill the goblins or the tiefling, so Karlach and Wyll wasn't angry, then i get to Moonrise and there she was, but Dammon wasn't in Last Light Inn, so i asume the tiefling and Dammon were killed by the goblin that i didn't kill

You can recruit both Minthara and Karlach even if you do the missions. But saving demmon? not sure. P.S: To recruit Minthara, Karlach and Wyll in the same play without bug or mods is easy: 1. you recruit Karlach and Wyll. 2: Have Karlach and Wyll steal the idol from the groove, this causes a 'civil war' and in the process you let Karlach and Wyll die. 3: then you Recruit Minthara by doing the raid, there will be no 'battle raid' cause everyone is already dead. 4: Ressurect both Wyll and Karlach.

[Psy^]

Originally posted by Psy^:

Originally posted by Craimax Black:

Not exacly, i tried ignoring the problem, i didn't kill the goblins or the tiefling, so Karlach and Wyll wasn't angry, then i get to Moonrise and there she was, but Dammon wasn't in Last Light Inn, so i asume the tiefling and Dammon were killed by the goblin that i didn't kill

You can recruit both Minthara and Karlach even if you do the missions. But saving demmon? not sure. P.S: To recruit Minthara, Karlach and Wyll in the same play without bug or mods is easy: 1. you recruit Karlach and Wyll. 2: Have Karlach and Wyll steal the idol from the groove, this causes a 'civil war' and in the process you let Karlach and Wyll die. 3: then you Recruit Minthara by doing the raid, there will be no 'battle raid' cause everyone is already dead. 4: Ressurect both Wyll and Karlach.

Basically; You make the druids kill the tieflings and then you side with Minthara, no one blames you now.

[nizzemancer]

Originally posted by Meow:

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

I'm not recommending anything I'm just saying I read about it. Take a chill pill.

No you are not. You said

Originally posted by nizzemancer:

Just read how you can supposedly cheese this:

And then proceed to describe how is it supposed to work. Which it does not. It takes less time to post a YT video link (which you didn't) than writing how it should work (which you did).
So if you haven't done it yourself and cannot post a link to a guide stfu and stop guiding people to do things that don't work.

Maybe you should take some reading comprehension classes.

Again, I never claimed to have done it myself, the fact that you assumed I had and want to make a big deal out of it is not my problem.

As I said, I read about someone doing it, that is all. Me trying to find the article I read or finding a video really would take longer than to simply write out the steps In broad strokes the way I did. I am not obligated to find you a guide or to hold your hand.