(Light Dark Urge spoilers) Should Dark Urge not be allowed to play as a cleric ?

[Jaguar Sprint]

Makes no sense for a (spoilers) Bhaalspawn to be able to use any cleric spell at all given the timeline of things. Only exception I see is a cleric of Bhaal, but something is weird about Bhaal letting you revive murdered party members, especially with divine intervention,

[Quacksalber]

Same for Paladin. Makes little sense.

[Orion Invictus]

Cleric, Paladin, and Warlock are three classes that Dark Urge shouldn't be able to use, IMO. However, doing that would spoil the Dark Urge plot.

[Jaguar Sprint]

Originally posted by EH!:

Same for Paladin. Makes little sense.

5e Paladins dont work on Religion, but on their oath carrying some kind of power, which tbh is stupid as hell

[Jaguar Sprint]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Cleric, Paladin, and Warlock are three classes that Dark Urge shouldn't be able to use, IMO. However, doing that would spoil the Dark Urge plot.

The Bhaal circle beneath your feet in the Durge introduction already does that...

[thufirhawat333]

Monk is also very weird.

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Coughing baby Hydrogen:

Originally posted by EH!:

Same for Paladin. Makes little sense.

5e Paladins dont work on Religion, but on their oath carrying some kind of power, which tbh is stupid as hell

Wouldn't the oath be contrary to what Dark Urge (originally) is, though, unless there's a murder hobo one.

[victorvnv]

Originally posted by thufirhawat333:

Monk is also very weird.

Shadow monk of Bhaal makes perfect sense, after all Bhaal is about religious assassins and shadow monks fits perfect .

But yea paladins makes zero sense , at the very least he should start as oathbreaker to begin with.

As there is no way a mass murderer could be a paladin of decvotion and not have broken his oath long before he lost his memory.

Cleric to be honest feels fine, Bhaal is a God after all so Cleric of Bhaal should be a thing, funny thing there is no option to be cleric of Bhaal while there is an option to be Vlakith cleric even if you aren’t Gith and never even knew about Vlakith…

Yet no option for Bhaal cleric .

[victorvnv]

Some races also doesn’t make any sense like Giths - they had no presence in the continent until BG3 and leaves right after, unlike Dragonborn where at least you see a few here and there, there are no random giths in BG3 so how could D Urge- son of Bhaal been a Gith and stated the entire plot to dominate the brain when the brain and illithids are Giths biggest enemy?

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Some races also doesn’t make any sense like Giths - they had no presence in the continent until BG3 and leaves right after, unlike Dragonborn where at least you see a few here and there, there are no random giths in BG3 so how could D Urge- son of Bhaal been a Gith and stated the entire plot to dominate the brain when the brain and illithids are Giths biggest enemy?

Yeah, this crossed my mind, too.

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Originally posted by thufirhawat333:

Monk is also very weird.

Shadow monk of Bhaal makes perfect sense, after all Bhaal is about religious assassins and shadow monks fits perfect .

But yea paladins makes zero sense , at the very least he should start as oathbreaker to begin with.

As there is no way a mass murderer could be a paladin of decvotion and not have broken his oath long before he lost his memory.

Cleric to be honest feels fine, Bhaal is a God after all so Cleric of Bhaal should be a thing, funny thing there is no option to be cleric of Bhaal while there is an option to be Vlakith cleric even if you aren’t Gith and never even knew about Vlakith…

Yet no option for Bhaal cleric .

Cleric of Bhaal would spoil the story outright, But It would work if it was a cleric of an unnamed god that would later be revealed.

Starting as an Oathbreaker Paladin Would actually be pretty interesting with an added option to restore the oath.

Though I agree that 5E made Paladins stupid in the first place. The whole idea that they are sustained and powered by an oath rather than direct divine powers like they used to is nonsense.

There's absolutely no problem being a warlock though unlike what someone said. You don't suddenly lose you patron just because you forget who you are. The patron pact is still there. The game just doesn't give that good story opportunities to explore your patron as Durge, but it's not like regular tav gets to explore their patron that much either.

It's pretty rare for any of these games to go that deep into class specific story though unless they are NPCs

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by EH!:

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Some races also doesn’t make any sense like Giths - they had no presence in the continent until BG3 and leaves right after, unlike Dragonborn where at least you see a few here and there, there are no random giths in BG3 so how could D Urge- son of Bhaal been a Gith and stated the entire plot to dominate the brain when the brain and illithids are Giths biggest enemy?

Yeah, this crossed my mind, too.

Yeah Gith is pretty silly, but it's not impossible there could be that single Gith who for some reason got dropped into sword coast as a kid and grew up in Baldur's Gate as a rare exception. It's dumb, but this setting is so crazy that it's not outside the realm of possibility.

[Scorpiova]

Was the player character not a Bhaalspawn in BG1 and BG2? You could be any class in that game as well. Durge is a nod to that is it not?

[Dank Sidious]

Originally posted by Scorpiova:

Was the player character not a Bhaalspawn in BG1 and BG2? You could be any class in that game as well. Durge is a nod to that is it not?

It's more about how the story develops rather than what your character is. BG1 and BG2 Bhaalspawn could be anything as you are only a kid beginning your journey. But Durge is an established already existing character that's an amnesiac You have already set place in the story and had a place in the events related to this current plot before the game even began. Being A Cleric of anything, but Bhaal doesn't make any sense when you find out who Durge is.

[Jaguar Sprint]

Originally posted by Scorpiova:

Was the player character not a Bhaalspawn in BG1 and BG2? You could be any class in that game as well. Durge is a nod to that is it not?

Except with how the BG1/2 Bhaalspawn grew up, it made perfect sense for him/her to be any class, whilst D'Urge had a fully fleshed-out backstory leading up to what I assume is hours before the game starts. I dont think Bhaal's chosen would be a Selune cleric...

[Annie Other]

Actually, when thinking about your "craft" and where your ablitlies come from in the dialog you get during the nightmare when taking your first long rest you can get the following line:

"The worship of your God feels like an Ancient fool's errand you are only following out of habit. When you look at the skies, there is no answer."

So Cleric is a valid class choice. Just that the source of your spells and abilities may not be the Deity you choose in the character creator.