This game's story is incredibly boring.

[constancy]

Did this game have some kind of massive ad campaign on reddit or something? They made it sound like the best rpg ever. It's buggy as hell and incredibly unoptimized. I'm playing with a 3060 and even when I set it to lowest setting, it's still stuttering in the grove. It must have a memory leak or something because the longer I run it the worse it gets.

Anyways, let's get to the meat of it. The driving force behind an rpg game MUST BE THE STORY. I can't keep going unless the story is good because the gameplay is going to be similar to the 50 other rpgs I've ever played. This game's story just sucks. I hate almost every companion. I absolutely dread accidentally clicking on them because it'll trigger a conversation and now I have to forward their story or something least I accidentally cause them to leave.

I'm only in act one but I hate the grove story so bad. A bunch of freeloaders came to the grove and are now making demands that the grove give up their lives to protect them. They're stealing and ♥♥♥♥. I know the game is setting it up so you save the freeloaders and that's suppose to be the "good" choice. Meanwhile, the only alternative is to ally with the orcs or whatever they are and they're the most evil irredeemable f**s on earth. Yea, that's a really tough choice. The toughest choice I had here was whether to kill Minthara because she appears to be the only interesting and attractive female that I've seen so far.

BG3 is yet another "I am the chosen one" story. I mean really? How is this story gonna be good? Can writers ever come up with something else? How bout I am just a random who got pulled into this incredible journey and each step of the way some story arc pushes me forward. I go forward because I want to resolve something and not because I am the chosen one AGAIN. The tadpole storyline is sooooooo boring that it almost enrages me while I play.

Bonus: Inventory system is horrible. Everything is just throw into one place and I'm pretty sure sort by new doesn't even work. Sometimes it would popup that I got an item and disappear almost immediately so I have to go into the inventory to hunt for it. Guess what? Sort by new isn't showing it at the top. It shows some new items but not all.

[Subset6]

I kinda agree.. the only game in recent memory where I was generally interested in what happens next was horizon zero dawn. Damn, what an amazing IP. Not much originality these days.

I really wish Larin would have taken this another act or two into the cosmic divinity levels of DnD godhood, somewhat like Dos 2 did.

Yah, I wan't that Karlac / Zarial encounter

[Pan Darius Cassandra]

The main storyline is pretty lame, but then I expected that from the start.

I play it for the side content.

[Quillithe]

I'm enjoying the absurdity of calling this a chosen one story when it's actually entirely a story about a bunch of random people getting caught up in an adventure for no particular reason.

[victorvnv]

It’s a D&D video game made for the average casual gamer. Not some complicated romance trying to go for an Oscar story.

It does its job well, most people loved the story as it’s easy to understand and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

That’s all that matters.

[constancy]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

I'm enjoying the absurdity of calling this a chosen one story when it's actually entirely a story about a bunch of random people getting caught up in an adventure for no particular reason.

It's not a chosen one story? You didn't get the tadpole in your eye but got saved by a mysterious entity and now you need to use it to save the world? There's not a bunch of npcs telling you you're special in act 1?

[Perigosa]

Well... I think if we really look into the game's story line, Shadowheart is the only one really "chosen" to have the artifact. And even so, not for long. If you don't find her, the thing finds you, popping out of nowhere on your inventory.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

It’s a D&D video game made for the average casual gamer. Not some complicated romance trying to go for an Oscar story.

It does its job well, most people loved the story as it’s easy to understand and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

That’s all that matters.

Yeah most CRPGs games with decent player freedom don't have amazing stories because the constraints on narrative are difficult when you aren't a particular character and you also might just murder everyone and the plot needs to somehow continue.

Notably the best game plots are usually either very linear and scripted, or things where the character you play is very central to the story, or both. Something like Horizon Zero Dawn can do things with it's story BG3 just can't

[constancy]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

most people loved the story.

Doubt.

[Subset6]

Originally posted by victorvnv:

It’s a D&D video game made for the average casual gamer. Not some complicated romance trying to go for an Oscar story.

It does its job well, most people loved the story as it’s easy to understand and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

That’s all that matters.

Oh it has solid combat, it check most box's very well. What is somewhat lost is the emotional connection to the plight of the journey you are embarking on. Nothing is really serious at all, or dire, just a little frat party of folks fighting baddies, with very horny camp mates.

[constancy]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by victorvnv:

It’s a D&D video game made for the average casual gamer. Not some complicated romance trying to go for an Oscar story.

It does its job well, most people loved the story as it’s easy to understand and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

That’s all that matters.

Yeah most CRPGs games with decent player freedom don't have amazing stories because the constraints on narrative are difficult when you aren't a particular character and you also might just murder everyone and the plot needs to somehow continue.

Notably the best game plots are usually either very linear and scripted, or things where the character you play is very central to the story, or both. Something like Horizon Zero Dawn can do things with it's story BG3 just can't

Then how did dragon age origins do it?

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by rionmc:

Originally posted by victorvnv:

It’s a D&D video game made for the average casual gamer. Not some complicated romance trying to go for an Oscar story.

It does its job well, most people loved the story as it’s easy to understand and the gameplay is a lot of fun.

That’s all that matters.

Oh it has solid combat, it check most box's very well. What is somewhat lost is the emotional connection to the plight of the journey you are embarking on. Nothing is really serious at all, or dire, just a little frat party of folks fighting baddies, with very horny camp mates.

Same as every other D&D CRPG.

Heck even stuff like DA:O that tried so hard to be edgy was mostly fun times with your buddies in my experience.

[constancy]

Originally posted by rionmc:

Originally posted by victorvnv:

Oh it has solid combat, it check most box's very well. What is somewhat lost is the emotional connection to the plight of the journey you are embarking on. Nothing is really serious at all, or dire, just a little frat party of folks fighting baddies, with very horny camp mates.

Yea the horny camp mates was so bad. First time I talk to astarion in camp and the guy is hinting that he wants to have sx. I'm thinking how do I make sure this doesn't lead to a gay sx scene without getting a disapproval hit from this guy. I did not say anything to indicate I was into it. ♥♥♥♥ was gross. Almost every companion talks about wanting to have sx after just a few lines of dialogue. It's super lazy writing.

[Quillithe]

Originally posted by constancy:

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Yeah most CRPGs games with decent player freedom don't have amazing stories because the constraints on narrative are difficult when you aren't a particular character and you also might just murder everyone and the plot needs to somehow continue.

Notably the best game plots are usually either very linear and scripted, or things where the character you play is very central to the story, or both. Something like Horizon Zero Dawn can do things with it's story BG3 just can't

Then how did dragon age origins do it?

If you seriously think DA:O had a better plot than this, I dunno.

THAT was an annoying chosen one story with generic enemies that were just imitation orcs and some of the blandest companions.


Besides which it had a lot less player freedom and was a lot more scripted anyway. Every quest was basically choice a or choice b and never really had an impact on anything else in the plot since the areas didn't interact.

[Reflex18]

This game is the GOAT for me, even with its issues. The amount of times my jaw dropped at the following:

tiny choice affecting some detail of the game

best voice acting I’ve ever experienced

music, ambient sounds - top tier

detailed and beautiful environments (crazy talented artists)

sheer amount of content. Browsing this sub I’ll often be reminded of places and scenes that completely slipped my mind because the game is SO huge

expertly written characters and dialogue

incredible character design for party members, enemies, and hundreds of npcs. A lot of the armor alone was exquisitely designed, and I rarely ever give a crap about what armor looks like.

mocap even on random NPCs (my jaw was dropping over this CONSTANTLY)

lovingly detailed animation on even the tiniest animals

new enemies around every corner

I was literally saying “holy .....” aloud with every new scene because the amount of labor that went into this game. Having been involved in game dev and animation makes me keenly aware of how much painstaking work this was and how astoundingly skilled the creators, actors, and coders are. There is so little reliance on repetition in this game it hardly feels like a game at all.

It feels like the stars aligned here. But really, it was a tremendous amount of love and work that you can feel moment to moment while playing.

[constancy]

Originally posted by Quillithe:

Originally posted by constancy:

Then how did dragon age origins do it?

If you seriously think DA:O had a better plot than this, I dunno.

THAT was an annoying chosen one story with generic enemies that were just imitation orcs and some of the blandest companions.


Besides which it had a lot less player freedom and was a lot more scripted anyway. Every quest was basically choice a or choice b and never really had an impact on anything else in the plot since the areas didn't interact.

First of all, dragon age origins was like 20 years ago. It's ok that it had a chosen one story. It was the first good DND tactics style game. This is like saying John Carter of Mars the books was full of cliches. No, it just came early. Second, dragon age origins had interesting characters and I actually enjoyed talking to them. I mean if BG3's companions were just ok, that's one thing but they're so annoying that I dread accidentally clicking on them. That's unacceptable.

Lastly, yes, the amount of freedom in BG3 is commendable but really, it's not enough.