Totally Screwed with the Raphael Fight

[MovieMuscle]

What the hell is this fight, and how do people find it fun? Hope and Gale get killed INSTANTLY before it even gets to their turn. Also, I love how the game never explains why my health is halved, making level practically meaningless. Don't you just love when videogames are videogames and create artificial difficulty for no reason. Gotta disadvantage you in so many ways, hoping you're a dorky virgin enough to somehow maneuver around all the disadvantages...

[ExcaliburV]

Er, are you underleveled or undergeared or something? I can usually faceroll him on tactician without too much trouble. And convincing Yurghir to fight with you is basically an I Win button.

Personally I save the House of Hope as one of the last things I do before I start pushing towards the finale. The very first time I did it, I was 10th level with mid gear, and yeah, it was very tough. Being 12th level with decent gear makes a lot of difference.

[Rabbit]

Destroy the pillars first, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, once the pillars are gone he'll have much less DPS, take care of the adds, probably WITH THE MACE OF LATHANDER NEARBY and then when you're down to just him he's blind because of the MACE OF LATHANDER, and pretty useless while blind and without pillars

[Zaris]

Yes the Raphael fight is quite hard tuned without preparation and a good team. On tactician i beat the fight with following quite simple tactic / cheese:
- team: fighter, barb (both with great weapon master active, buffed with bless (improved by underdark tower staff to 20-40% hit) and fighter with advantage ring from moonrise towers), sorc (dual haste on fighters), cleric
- cleric with unique gloves (everyone healed gets resistance = 50% dmg reduce buff from temple vendor in lower city)
- everyone has at least 20-25 AC and if possible wears the Grimforge boss helmet und 2 armors which all 3 three gives crit immunity to be on the safe site)
- position your heros in a circle around the portal and buff Hope improved invisibility, your fighters dual haste, all bless, group heal for 50% dmg reduce buff
- don't use sacred dmg because it will get reflected with double dmg (Hopes AOE or smite etc)

Start the fight and you should easily survive now the first round and your fighters can most likely kill 50-70% of the small fry, after that the pillars and at last Raphael.

[Budoshi]

it was hard for me too , only fight in the whole game i had to re do like 5 times and when i got him only one of my heros was left standing half dead.

[Cthulhu]

did you say Blood of Lathander?

[MovieMuscle]

Originally posted by ExcaliburV:

Er, are you underleveled or undergeared or something? I can usually faceroll him on tactician without too much trouble. And convincing Yurghir to fight with you is basically an I Win button.

Personally I save the House of Hope as one of the last things I do before I start pushing towards the finale. The very first time I did it, I was 10th level with mid gear, and yeah, it was very tough. Being 12th level with decent gear makes a lot of difference.

I'm a level 12, and all the enemies in this room are just wrecking my team members...

[pezenwever]

Set Hope on not-following when you open the door.
Precast some elementals. Set them on not following as well. Raphael is a sucker for Irresistable dance and Tasha's laughter. You can use a dome of invulnerability scroll and push anyone out that tries to enter.

If you can't get passed the fight, then something is wrong with your builds and/or use of abilities. In that case you can resort to barrelmancy.
Smokepowder barrels do force damage. Toss some arround the pillars and just behind the spot where Raphael spawns. If you have enough, toss them everywhere except the spot between the door and the portal.

It would be sad to resort to this if you never gave Raphael the chance to sing though

[dieter-65]

Ok - it's a hard fight - but if your party is well prepared (armor, drinks skill etc.) and you have a good tactic it's not so hard. I slayed him in my first try.

[MovieMuscle]

Gotta love how I clearly saved after killing some enemies and then healing up through the fountain. Reload a save and I'm back to having to waste my time killing three enemies. The game that keeps giving. Good stuff, idiots!

[MovieMuscle]

Originally posted by dieter-65:

Ok - it's a hard fight - but if your party is well prepared (armor, drinks skill etc.) and you have a good tactic it's not so hard. I slayed him in my first try.

I have very good equipment and have been able to breeze through most of the game so far. Honestly just not sure what game you guys are playing. I must be playing a totally different one. This fight is brutal. Raphael keeps obliterating my crew...

[Moonbane]

Raphael is vulnerable to CC, he have very low wisdom. Use Tasha's Hideous Laughter on him or Otto's Irresstible Dance.

[FunkyMonkey]

What is your team like? What buffs you have or what tactics you usually use?

[GeoVas]

Black Hole + Confusion thank me later !

[sarapaski]

you can banish the ♥♥♥♥ out of him

[Quacksalber]

Originally posted by Boon: Safeword:

Destroy the pillars first, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, BRING THE MACE OF LATHANDER, once the pillars are gone he'll have much less DPS, take care of the adds, probably WITH THE MACE OF LATHANDER NEARBY and then when you're down to just him he's blind because of the MACE OF LATHANDER, and pretty useless while blind and without pillars

I tried taking down the pillars the first time I did this battle and everyone died before I'd even taken one down. It's much easier imo to spam stuff like silence, blackhole, icestorm, hideous laughter, etc. and kill them normally while completely ignoring the pillars.