How many quests break if you kill Gortash during his coronation?

[Gracey Face]

I am curious, it seems like every quest relating to the steel watch and the gondians breaks, the quest where you have to find the submersible softlocks for instance. I am curious if there are more quests that break.

It is odd that any break, considering that it is an option the game itself gives you through dialogue.

[ABulletTooFar]

I think for generic quests "Avenge the Drowned, Save the Gondians, Rescue the Grand Duke, Retrieve Omeluum, and Stop the Presses"(though you can still tinker with the printing press for experience even if you were never at risk of being slandered)

[❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃]

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

What do you mean "and alive"? You can keep Ravenguard alive by using non-lethal attacks against him but like everything else in the game if you use non lethal attacks the game still treats you as having killed them (and stupidly in the couple of times when you do actually KO people (Viconia and the face painted barbarian guy who's name escapes me at the moment) those happen whether or not you use non lethal, which makes me wonder why they even added the non lethal toggle.

[L:D]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

There's so many ways to start combat in the game and even being underleved still win it. Not mention how strong all classes are in act 3, the option to change difficult to "easy", way to cheese fights, classes doing 200+ damage per turn. Damn, just be creative.

[Estevan Valladares]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

What do you mean "and alive"? You can keep Ravenguard alive by using non-lethal attacks against him but like everything else in the game if you use non lethal attacks the game still treats you as having killed them (and stupidly in the couple of times when you do actually KO people (Viconia and the face painted barbarian guy who's name escapes me at the moment) those happen whether or not you use non lethal, which makes me wonder why they even added the non lethal toggle.

Vicona and Minsk wont be set as killed if you knock them down. That is for sure.

But I have sense people saying it is easy is just assuming it is based on other fights.

[Xanshi]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

You can definitely kill him if you prepare for it. On top of my head, the easiest is probably using greater invisibility. If you don't know greater invisibility, you can maintain invisibility after doing an action if you pass a stealth check, people have said you must pass a stealth check of 15 to maintain invisibility.

If another party member cast pass without trace which gives you an automatic 10 on stealth checks, you only need 5 to keep maintaining invisibility.

Paralyze Gortash to keep him from moving. Use poison and keep attacking him until he dies without trigger the others into combat. Having an assassin with expertise on stealth will make easy to maintain invisibility.

EDIT: I've search the reddit post where i got this information. The first action you take is have the stealth check of 15 and checks are going increase by 1 per action you make while the invisibility is active.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BG3Builds/comments/15uuiuu/greater_invisibility_is_incredibly_strong_if_you/

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

Vicona and Minsk wont be set as killed if you knock them down. That is for sure.

No, they're the opposite where even if you use lethal attacks on them they count as KOed at the end of the fight. Which is why I said the "non lethal" toggle is pointless. The only fights where non lethal takedowns are an option the game automatically has you do them regardless of what you actually tell the game to do.

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Xanshi:

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

You can definitely kill him if you prepare for it. On top of my head, the easiest is probably using greater invisibility. If you don't know greater invisibility, you can maintain invisibility after doing an action if you pass a stealth check, people have said you must pass a stealth check of 15 to maintain invisibility.

If another party member cast pass without trace which gives you an automatic 10 on stealth checks, you only need 5 to keep maintaining invisibility.

Paralyze Gortash to keep him from moving. Use poison and keep attacking him until he dies without trigger the others into combat. Having an assassin with expertise on stealth will make easy to maintain invisibility.

EDIT: I've search the reddit post where i got this information. The first action you take is have the stealth check of 15 and checks are going increase by 1 per action you make while the invisibility is active.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BG3Builds/comments/15uuiuu/greater_invisibility_is_incredibly_strong_if_you/

If you do this, does the game count ravenguard as still being alive?

[Szarekh the Silent King]

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

Vicona and Minsk wont be set as killed if you knock them down. That is for sure.

No, they're the opposite where even if you use lethal attacks on them they count as KOed at the end of the fight. Which is why I said the "non lethal" toggle is pointless. The only fights where non lethal takedowns are an option the game automatically has you do them regardless of what you actually tell the game to do.

Seriously? You mean you can't kil Hag in Act3 and fail to save a child with lethal attacks? Have you tried?

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by Szarekh the Silent King:

Originally posted by Gracey Face:

No, they're the opposite where even if you use lethal attacks on them they count as KOed at the end of the fight. Which is why I said the "non lethal" toggle is pointless. The only fights where non lethal takedowns are an option the game automatically has you do them regardless of what you actually tell the game to do.

Seriously? You mean you can't kil Hag in Act3 and fail to save a child with lethal attacks? Have you tried?

Haven't tried that bit yet. Just know that every fight I have tried to use non lethal attacks on has had the person count as dead (often with no one saying anything until a mention a little while later) and the only fights I have encountered where someone gets knocked out happened with lethal attacks active.

[KillerKrabDab]

I killed Gortash before the coronation before he even had a turn to attack by luring him outside and shoving him off a ledge I then killed all the guards and steel watch except Duke who without harming I fled combat from. Despite him following me almost outside and being in eye sight, Mizora said he was kidnapped by Gortash and he despawned making him completely unsavable in my game. Because I killed Gortash the entrance to his underwater prison is now gone and I can't save Duke. Even though I killed Gortash with Duke in the room he still got kidnapped somehow. I'm so mad it locked me out of saving him.

[Schhwifty]

Originally posted by KillerKrabDab:

I killed Gortash before the coronation before he even had a turn to attack by luring him outside and shoving him off a ledge I then killed all the guards and steel watch except Duke who without harming I fled combat from. Despite him following me almost outside and being in eye sight, Mizora said he was kidnapped by Gortash and he despawned making him completely unsavable in my game. Because I killed Gortash the entrance to his underwater prison is now gone and I can't save Duke. Even though I killed Gortash with Duke in the room he still got kidnapped somehow. I'm so mad it locked me out of saving him.

Not sure if this will provide anything helpful - the only way to save Duke Ravenguard other than the Iron Throne rescue method is if he dies / is killed then brought back via deal-making with Mizora.
I too tried keeping him alive after the battle which lead to the same experience you had and luckily I had a quicksave before the end of the battle. So, I got a Hold Person on him, KO'd him, couldn't wake him up no matter what I did, Long Rested thinking maybe he'll be non-hostile when I warp back from Camp, buuuut immediately after the Long Rest at Camp he "died" anyway.

From the info I was able to collect online, killing off Gortash before or during the coronation isn't "intended" (I used quotations because I'd argue that it's not suggested more so than not intended) and if you KO Duke Ravenguard he won't awaken because his character isn't designed / scripted for it. Being KO'd during a Long Rest triggers the flag for his death, which allows you to speak with Mizora to hash out a deal to move forward.
Unfortunately, if he doesn't get killed during the battle then the game flags him for the next possible outcome for his character which is the Iron Throne rescue attempt and, well, that isn't possible if Gortash is dead.

[Lil Grandpa]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

If that's true, why was it so amazing to stick one of his concussion grenades in his mouth and curbstomp him?

[Asshole]

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

Easy.. I did it in tactician mode, just stay invisible at that ledge where you can sneak in, and lure gortash to the edge with minor illusion. Then proceed to telekinesis him down the bottom and that will deal roughly 430 damage to him, insta killing him. Then all that's needed to be done is flee combat, because you ain't taking on that army up there lol, but yeah! Easy!

[Gracey Face]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by ❃ Galiäna Krüger ❃:

You're not meant to kill him during coronation.

Please elaborate how you kill him during coronation without killing Duke and alive and not using mod(s).

Easy.. I did it in tactician mode, just stay invisible at that ledge where you can sneak in, and lure gortash to the edge with minor illusion. Then proceed to telekinesis him down the bottom and that will deal roughly 430 damage to him, insta killing him. Then all that's needed to be done is flee combat, because you ain't taking on that army up there lol, but yeah! Easy!

Unless they changed it, the army up there is really easy to deal with since the only actual dangerous units are the killbots and they have a preset kill limit, I mean vulnerability to lightning and IIRC blunt.

Just haste a lightning myrmidon moon druid and he can solo the whole room.