Goblins redeemable?

[Kasa]

Playing through and thinking whether or not to genocide the goblin camp, I like goblins and would rather give them the benefit of the doubt but on my way to their camp there is a lot of evidence saying that I should wipe em out.

I know they're being controlled but even then in the TTRPG Goblins are not generally known for the benovolence.

[Kasa]

That may just how it all ends for them, I'd grasp on to any evidence of them not being little monsters but between them, the bugbears, orges, and gnolls so far is looks like I have a lot of work to do lol.

[kingonads]

You can avoid wiping out majority of the goblins and achieve the mission of killing all of the leaders. But it takes a bit of thinking.

[cire87]

they needed some low tier fodder and sadly goblins fit that role very well

[Kasa]

Originally posted by kingonads:

You can avoid wiping out majority of the goblins and achieve the mission of killing all of the leaders. But it takes a bit of thinking.

I'm not worried about if I CAN kill them all, I'm worried if I SHOULD, you know?

[cire87]

also besides them being controlled to some extent , when left alone they tend to do horrific things

[kingonads]

Originally posted by Kasa:

Originally posted by kingonads:

You can avoid wiping out majority of the goblins and achieve the mission of killing all of the leaders. But it takes a bit of thinking.

I'm not worried about if I CAN kill them all, I'm worried if I SHOULD, you know?

That is a personal choice. I know on my Half-Orc playthrough I didnt kill them. I only killed the 3 leaders and left majority of the goblins alive... after all I need to be hailed as their hero and savoir thus giving my my own personal army to fall back on.

[FoxFox]

Is this about Goblins or really about Sazza?

[Zarek]

Originally posted by kingonads:

Originally posted by Kasa:

I'm not worried about if I CAN kill them all, I'm worried if I SHOULD, you know?

That is a personal choice. I know on my Half-Orc playthrough I didnt kill them. I only killed the 3 leaders and left majority of the goblins alive... after all I need to be hailed as their hero and savoir thus giving my my own personal army to fall back on.

its a shame one of them forces the entire camp to go hostile. Clearly that wasn't the original dev intent.

[I'm A Distraction!]

Any sentient creature is 'redeemable', its just a matter of how difficult a process it is. Even demons and devils are 'capable' of overcoming their nature (as intrinsic forces of evil) to follow the path of good, however VERY unlikely it is. The problem is most such creatures don't want to be redeemed, and would very much likely prefer to go out swinging for their god (both the Absolute or the default goblin gods) rather than go along with it.

If trying to follow the best Lawful Good boy you can, then plenty of the goblins in the main camp have done crimes deserving of a smiting if they don't surrender to your judgement (and even then, there's hardly any civilization nearby to cart them to for judgement beyond the druids). If you want to RP it, feel free to go the nonlethal damage route and knock them all out, then flavor it as you submitting them to the Emerald Grove for determining their fate, since they were the enemy attacking them.

[Kasa]

I think I'll talk to them first for the lore at least then proceed to wipe them out.
I'm all for letting Goblins live but this is not Eberron and these goblins seem pretty evil.

[Kasa]

@I'm A Distraction

lol thanks! XD

The best part is I'm not even a Paladin, I'm doing an arcane trickster DU playthrough (resisting the DU) it's just man or man there is a LOT of huminoid corpses littering the countryside.

[Argonaut]

Purge the unclean.

[CorwynCorey]

Originally posted by cire87:

they needed some low tier fodder and sadly goblins fit that role very well

That has been their role in TTRPG's and CRPG's AND fiction since they were first invented.
Their culture is inherently violent and selfish. Evil, in other words. While an individual may have leanings toward some other concepts perhaps.. they aren't likely to have reached adulthood.

And, if you are actually roleplaying, is it an issue? I mean this seriously... if even goblin lives matter to that character, then act on it. You do not have to kill them all for a goodly playthrough... just the leaders. Who are obviously evil af. Irredeemable.

Do with that as you will.

[NzFox]

Originally posted by Zarek:

its a shame one of them forces the entire camp to go hostile. Clearly that wasn't the original dev intent.

yeah, it feels really out of place compared to everything else. I do hope they get around to patching that one day, though I expect we will probably have to wait for the 'enhanced edition' update

[cire87]

i feel bad for the hyneas , do they need to be infected or do all hyenas turn to gnolls when they die ?