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Alternatively, install a mod that lets you add stuff to your inventory.
I went to defeat the brain and found that the Emperor swooped us into the plane when the attempt turned out to be unsuccessful. Of course I didn't bring the hammer; why would I. There has been no way to get to Orpheus before since I got the hammer. The Emperor swore he would never let us enter the prism and that he would try to kill us if we were to free Orpheus. Yet he swooped us in and when I told told him that I would free Orpheus, he just decided to join the brain. That tells me that he can not be trusted at all.
I've found it unwise to entrust the Emperor with the Netherstones because I doubt he will defy his nature in which it lies to control brains and to feed on them. He's apparently been running an organisation not very dissimilar to the Mafia in order to ascertain a steady supply of human brains to feed on and to increase his wealth and influence. I have found no indication that he would not attempt to use the brain for his purposes. That he seems so very eager to turn at least one of the party into a Mindflayer is suspicious. He's the one claiming that Orpheus would kill us right away, yet he has no proof. He gives no other reason for it. My character is a githyanky cleric, and I can imagine that Orpheus might not want to kill two of his own kin just like that, especially after we freed him. Even if he were to try to kill us, who says he could manage. He must be pretty weak after being chained up for aeons with no water and no food, hanging on his arms. Try to breath when hanging on your arms like that, and you might be surprised how difficult that can be ...
The other available options involve Gale exploding or someone turning into a Mindflayer. Before doing that, freeing Orpheus seems the most reasonable option, so I chose that, and I already knew that the hammer is in camp before making that decision.
I don't know if we could get off this plane when Orpheus were free. The way it is now it's probably a stupid oversight of the developers who didn't consider that players keep things in camp and who haven't tested the game before releasing it.
It's either that, or there is a way off. If not, then the game is over unless someone manages to enter the prism and perhaps helps us to get out. For all I know, that could take a million years or more, and we would have won because by that time, the brain would be long dead and forgotten. Or it could be soon that the brain sends an army to kill Orpheus and us along with him.
So where is that ending? For now, I'm stuck indefinitely, and in a way it means that I've actually won. Only it's a pretty bad and very disappointing ending. What kind of game is this?
bruh you are unleashing a Tiamat worshipper who's goal is to continue the work of his mother which is enslaving every single realm. Of course the Emp isnt cool with that. "Hey I wanna free the dude thats going to try to enslave every realm. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WONT SIDE WITH ME? YOU CANT BE TRUSTED" The emp also wont be able to resist the netherbrain if he doesnt eat Orphs brains so he doesnt have a choice but to side with it.
Yes, not carrying items when it is forseeable that they are not going to be needed is a very good idea. It helps with not encumbering characters and not loosing them by going to jail or to pickpockets. (I don't know if you can ever get out of jail and get your stuff back.)
Also, the inventory management totally sucks and would be way better if they had tested the game before releasing it ... And if they had tested it, I wouldn't be in this situation. Or do you have proof that it is intended to end like this?
He doesnt though. In his ending he just leaves. Meanwhile if you read the tablets ingame you would know that Orph is basically Hitler mixed with Pol Pot. Everyone that isnt a gith will be killed or enslaved if he isnt stopped. The emperor tells you to kill the brain and then just leaves after he helps with that.
People talk about "choices and consequence".
Well, it is like that meme when the guy goes take a dump and realizes there is no toilet paper. And the caption states "that is the importance of planning".
Ok, fair enough --- but how I am supposed to know that? From what I've learned during the game is that it's the Mindflayers who want to enslave everyone. The Emperor happens to be a Mindflayer ...
I also learned that Orpheus probably hates Mindflayers and their brains, and that he probably would be very strongly inclined to fight them like bascially all githyanky do because they had been enslaved a very long time ago, when Orpheus was still around. Nobody indicated that Orpheus would want to enslave anyone but that he would be a great hero who frees everyone like his mother did.
There is a problem with that theory. If you take notice of something the devs have laughed "knowingly" when someone pointed out.
Take a look in the starting cinematic. A somewhat familiar mindflayer is observing the nautiloid travel the city. That same mindflayer is walking and seeing other mindflayers apparently "assaulted" on his path, and doesnt care.
Doesnt ring any strage that the Emperor simply states calmly that he will join the brain if you dont give the stone to him in order to free orpheus ?
There is the dead one Dror is talking to, you can ask things to it and have interesting answers.
And then, there is this:
https://youtu.be/mbBs1b7g-6Y
All powerful characters in this game, Orph, Vlaaketh, Emperor, Raphael, all of them are in a power trip. It is a "bogus" reflection of the real DnD overall plot in which none of those powerful entities takes over the World because of the power of the others, and that is why "mere mortals" are left alone.
If you can have a "less doomed ending" is when you kill the emperor and take the brain. Even so, nothing says you are not also a pawn in for the Brain and doesnt know it.
I did read these tablets. They were going on about githyanky being freed and Orpheus' mother sacrificing herself for something while Orpheus somehow lost a battle against some early instance of Vlakkith. She and her successors, bearing the same name, is/are apparently some ursurper(s) (this is very unclear). After loosing, he got enchained and was kept in the prism in case his ability to disrupt communications while propaganda has it that he's dead.
I don't remember anything about him wanting to enslave everyone.
It doesn't matter, though. I'm wondering if there is a way to leave that plane so I can get the hammer to free him. If there isn't, then the game is over, it's simple as that.
It seems to me that this ending is not intended but a bug, Maybe it is intended, being one of these cases in which you can do everything right and you still can't win.
So which is it?
I have to agree.
So you didnt take the hammer, you dont want to go back to a previous save. And you're claiming the game is bad. No. You've made poor decisions, that's all. User end issue. Game over.
Depending on your playthrough, you learn the Emperor is simply manipulating and using you.
Tiamat is one of the leaders of the 9 hells with their own plane of the hells. Like any devil, their bread and butter is making deals.
Gith (orpheus's mother) made the deal with Tiamat with the dragons to help her people over throw their enslavement by the flayers and their hive mind elder brains.
Remember, as the story has said over and over and even Withers(Jergal, the original god of death) has stated, flayers have no souls. Devils deal in souls. Creatures turned into flayers have their souls obliterated. The agreement is of benefit for devils as souls again are their currency.
Also gods currency lies with souls and belief of their followers. Flayers then being of neither imbalances and seeks to undo the pantheons by proxy if you will.
Vlaakith the 157th (as she's not the original vlaakith) is a lich seeking to be come a god(that's why she feeds of the "ascended" and continues her mechinations. The current Vlaakith now is just enslaving the githyaki in a different way.
Orpheus wants to end that. And he wants to end all Flayers in genocide too and feels pretty rightfully justified.
Letting the emperor take over things is essentially letting a true flayer move the grand design in the way -they- want to do in their own terms. When they realize they cannot, they then make the choice to join the netherbrain due to their seeing it as an inevitability and still a chance of survival(its an organism with a will to survive still even if soulless.
Orpheus is more of what I'd consider a Spartan mindset. He doesnt want the perversion of Vlaakith's lichdom and enslavement of their race through a mock religion to continue and his compulsion against flayers goes even above that.
If you turn orph into a flayer, he clearly tells you to kill him. You can convince him to not and observe how Voss an Laezel(again based on choices) may seek to overthrow vlaakith the 157th, but in terms of the nature of flayers, that eventually is likely to end not well. Mind you if there were any flayer capable of forever resisting the compulsion of their species, an Orpheus one would be the most likely.
Then again you can try to dismiss Jergal's claims that flayers have no souls. Approaching it from that angle then entangles even more questions. Why would Jergal lie?(As he's seneschal to Kelemvor at this point. Is he wanting to reclaim all his death related portfolios? Is he mistaken(unlikely given his lore). Is he lying to convince others to not let the flayer plans come to fruition for balance sake? To thwart(as indicated in end scene credits depending on your play through) of the dead 3?
We dont have all the answers of course because WotC and Larian are the ones atm progressing the lore/canon. But one at least can argue that they're exploring the considerations of what comprises of evil.
I got to that point, though it's quite unclear to me. I figured that noone is being ascended but instead victimized since that's what it seemed like. "Lich" doesn't mean anything to me.
I don't understand why the githyanky would ever worship Vlaakith (and why anyone would ever worship anyone at all). Who/what are Githerai and what do they have to do with anything? I gather that the Illithid are the Mindflayers (why call them Illithid, that's only confusing) and that Orpheus' mother freed the githyanky from them, and apparently she put the original instance of a Vlaakith in place when she had to sacrifice herself. There must be lots of successors of Vlaakith unless the githyanky somehow live like forever, and there seem to have been a lot of them. Why are they all using the same name? The instances have numbered themselves over many thousands of years now while Orpheus lives on since the first instance. So what the's the life expectancy of githyankies and what kills all the Vlakkiths??
I don't understand the whole thing. I guess one must have played Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 to understand it, but I don't know, and I haven't played those.
Other parts of the story are just broken. Like Aylin claims that I had left her restrained by Thorm until I found it useful to free her. That doesn't make any sense because the first time I encountered her was when we killed Kethric and she was freed right away in the first turn of the fight. There's no way to do that any faster. There's also Isobel and another girl the name of which I forgot; one of those were killed in the fight with Kethric, and apparently I'm supposed to know who they are. I've never met them before and never met the one that wasn't killed. I thought that Alyin might be Kethrics wife until she claimed to be Selunes daughter.
There's also wrong log entries. Apparently there are so many bugs that we can't even understand the story. Perhaps when you do everything in the order and in the way the developers have intended, it might be less chaotic. But I don't know which way that is.
It also seems that Shadowheart is supposed to play an important role. I killed her long time ago when she tried to kill Lae'zel for no reason in her sleep. Elmister is also dead because he got himself killed when interfering with taking our hard-earned loot, and a bit later his dead body appeared in camp, indicating he wants to talk. Buggy ...
It's just bad. They should have tested the game before releasing it.
So don't be surprised that it seems a good idea to free Orpheus. With the information I got, it is the right idea. You have different information. And there's too much misinformation in the game.