Baldur's Gate 3

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Sairah91 Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:06am
Gale says we're not close :(
So i'm on act 2 at moonrise towers, the star watching scene with Gale triggers and since I'm not romancing him and my approval with him is exceptional (100) I thought I would get his friendship scene but when I select the "Nothing is impossible" choice he tells me that that would be heartening from somebody else and that we're not close D:
I selected all the friendly options, gave him magical items etc, did I miss something or is this a bug?? is this happening to someone else? :(
Last edited by Sairah91; Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:08am
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victorvnv Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:08am 
Probably you already romanced someone else on purpose or by accident
Ironwu Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:09am 
Having 'Approval' is not the same thing as being 'Close'.
JennyTheGhoul Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Please forgive me for laughing but with all the people whining about Gale coming onto them and they have 'no choice' in the matter ...
Sairah91 Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:13am 
Originally posted by victorvnv:
Probably you already romanced someone else on purpose or by accident
Oh, no, i'm not romacing him, but he gets a friendship scene too


Originally posted by Ironwu:
Having 'Approval' is not the same thing as being 'Close'.
I know, but i've been taking him on my party all the time and selecting all the friendly options so idk :')
I also looked up what the friend scene looked like and it was not that :(
Last edited by Sairah91; Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:14am
Sairah91 Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:15am 
Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:
Please forgive me for laughing but with all the people whining about Gale coming onto them and they have 'no choice' in the matter ...
lol, I'd laugh too, but I just got rejected as a friend! not even friendzoned! straight up acquaintancezoned! xD
JennyTheGhoul Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Sairah91:
Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:
Please forgive me for laughing but with all the people whining about Gale coming onto them and they have 'no choice' in the matter ...
lol, I'd laugh too, but I just got rejected as a friend! not even friendzoned! straight up acquaintancezoned! xD

LOL. I know and I'm sorry for laughing. I've had the friendly scene with him so I'm wondering if this is maybe a bug.
Sairah91 Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:
Originally posted by Sairah91:
lol, I'd laugh too, but I just got rejected as a friend! not even friendzoned! straight up acquaintancezoned! xD

LOL. I know and I'm sorry for laughing. I've had the friendly scene with him so I'm wondering if this is maybe a bug.
Ugh, if its a bug the only solution would be to restart... Sorry Gale, I guess we'll be friends on another unbugged run :')
Btw, did u do anything different to what i wrote on my original post? or something i forgot to mention? just in case x'D
JennyTheGhoul Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:21am 
No, that's pretty much how I played it with him. I don't think I did anything differently from you.
Sairah91 Sep 23, 2023 @ 11:23am 
Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:
No, that's pretty much how I played it with him. I don't think I did anything differently from you.
Then I'm just unlucky and got a very rare bug :') Maybe he got tired of everyone complaining he was too easy and now he won't even be friends with me lol
Anyway, thanks :')
hyperionstooge Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
I got the same problem too lol and the next morning he was acting normal again. I don't get it. He even said we're friends
Last edited by hyperionstooge; Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:59pm
Izlude Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by Sairah91:
So i'm on act 2 at moonrise towers, the star watching scene with Gale triggers and since I'm not romancing him and my approval with him is exceptional (100) I thought I would get his friendship scene but when I select the "Nothing is impossible" choice he tells me that that would be heartening from somebody else and that we're not close D:
I selected all the friendly options, gave him magical items etc, did I miss something or is this a bug?? is this happening to someone else? :(

Gale apparently only likes to try to ninjamance. Straightforward romance repulses him.
FoxFox Sep 23, 2023 @ 5:58pm 
Originally posted by Sairah91:
Originally posted by JennyTheGhoul:
Please forgive me for laughing but with all the people whining about Gale coming onto them and they have 'no choice' in the matter ...
lol, I'd laugh too, but I just got rejected as a friend! not even friendzoned! straight up acquaintancezoned! xD

Acquaintancezoned is probably more real than the whole friendzoned thing. Hope this term takes off!
Mewsha Sep 23, 2023 @ 6:57pm 
Unfortunately Gale's romance seems to be especially tricky/buggy.

Good aligned characters like Gale, Karlach, and Wyll are easy to romance for most at first because they play a hero archetype, thus they gain a lot of approval quickly. The issue is that their romantic scenes can overlap unless you're very careful.

Basically for Gale you need to feed him magical items, have a good rating with him, imagine yourself kissing him when he's teaching you magic for Act 1. I'm guessing you did all that.

In Act 2 is where ♥♥♥♥ goes sideways fast with these three characters because Larian decided that Act 2 is where you need to pick your romantic partner despite keeping it so open ended in Act 1. This is an issue for Gale for one of two reasons. Let's say you started a romance like with Astarion for example. You can have two romantic scenes with him in Act 1 even though it's not serious. For some reason Gale unlike any other character will be harder to romance if you do something like that. They eat into his romantic scenes even though every other character simply just makes you choose.

The other reason could be that you were a little too friendly toward Karlach and Wyll. Maybe you fixed Karlach up and gave her a hug. Lore wise I explain it away as her never being touched for a long time. You'll also probably have a high approval rating with Wyll as well, and at risk of romance with him, similarly I explain it away lore wise as him being so down bad from being Mizora's pet.

Regardless one of their scenes when you sleep could be prioritized over Gale's for some reason. This happened to me when I was romancing Gale. For me, it was Wyll dancing. I rejected him, but missed Gale's stargazing scene even though I expressed romantic interest in Gale first and my approval rating is much higher. This happens after the Gauntlet of Shar, but before the Moonrise Tower battle with Ketheric.

You also need to make sure that you get the romantic version where you kiss him and so on, and not the platonic version where you just spend the night watching the stars and doing nothing else.

It's such a slim window to romance him and if you do not get this scene your romance is dead in the water in Act 3, even if you had a scene where you agreed to be romantically exclusive. You don't even break up, he just seems to treat you like a friend. Another bug is that for some reason in my game the romantic version of the stargazing scene wouldn't trigger until I rested in Moonrise Tower at least once before the final battle.

This is extremely annoying and Larian should be working to fix this so that romance is more obvious in this game. I get exhausted by the chuds who post stupid ♥♥♥♥ and muddy the waters, but romance in this game should not be this convoluted.

Not all romances are the same either. For example I romanced Astarion, even flirted with Gale and Wyll, but it never interfered with my relationship with Astarion until he made me choose them or him.

It's also harder to accidentally gain too high of an approval with Astarion, Shadowheart, and Laezel because they all have specific alignments and motivations that often don't overlap with other characters. Astarion adores freedom, laughing at the expense of others, and generally chaotic evil/neutral choices. He'll generally disagree with the avatar being a goody two shoes.

Shadowheart similarly doesn't like a hero type at the start, but she doesn't like unnecessary cruelty either. She's efficient and has tunnel vision when it comes to Shar. Therefore when you go out of your way to help people she sees it as interfering in her larger quest to become a Dark Justiciar.

Laezel's a trickier one. I wonder why her romance is so well implemented in this game compared to the other three. She also doens't like the classic hero archetype, but she does appreciate a warrior. As long as you're not a saint and follow her general questline to the end it's hard miss her romance scenes. They similarly do not overlap with others, or I never had a romance scene just trigger with Laezel without me expressing clear interest beforehand. That's very different from Wyll, Karlach, and Gale.

What they need to do for Gale, Wyll, and Karlach is significantly scale back how much approval you gain with them by simply doing a vanilla playthrough. Ideally they'd have romance hinge on more than just an approval rating, but I doubt that's going to happen at this point. These three romances need something more unique for them to trigger than just being a good guy.
Last edited by Mewsha; Sep 23, 2023 @ 7:05pm
I think Larian changed Gale's Act 2 romance, period. I thankfully had the full romance in my 1st playthrough, but had the same result as u my 2nd time around. I was romancing Astarion, but had the same result even if I stopped Astarion's romance from even starting. Hopefully they change this back or make it better somehow. I was so disappointed.
XGear Oct 16, 2023 @ 8:58pm 
And be happy and proud that he warned you. Many here are not so lucky, and have cried in threads how close to Gale can be "magically" frustrating for them.....
Last edited by XGear; Oct 16, 2023 @ 9:00pm
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